They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

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They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

I think they tried to change it sometimes (Spielberg 2017 comes to my mind) but it never lasted. Let's see how long it will last this time.

No Rambler is completely new though. Like it that way!



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They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

I think they tried to change it sometimes (Spielberg 2017 comes to my mind) but it never lasted. Let's see how long it will last this time.

No Rambler is completely new though. Like it that way!

Oh true, I was at that show actually haha, I remember I was surprised when Miss You was played. I am curious if they might add a few songs to this setlist to make it 20-21 songs for the first night.

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According to the same posters that think HD is best since Exile.

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They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

....maybe they dont need to rehearse it



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They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Honestly I think it weared out a bit during recent tours. The jam part got a bit uninspired and they just got through the motions, lasting about 10 minutes only.

I'm glad they try something new

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

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"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

I think it's good that they dropped some of the warhorses. Midnight Rambler isn't really a very known tune to the general public and the die-hards always compare it to their favorite version. So, not much to loose dropping this one. (I think the decision that they dropped IORR a few tours ago was much more surprising)

I'd love to see SFM being in rotation with Paint it Black. And maybe 19th Nervous Breakdown in place of GOOMC every second night. 19th had the most juvenile energy of all of the songs, when I saw them in 2022.

But the setlist looks great and with GOOMC, Beast of Burden, Out of Time, Shattered and Little T&A, the audience already gets five fantastic gems on top of the Hackney Diamond tracks!



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let's see how many of these songs survive (the rehearsals, then the first show, etc.)

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

syrel

"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

Yes but Miss You is over done now, personally for me it's always been a bathroom break so I'm probably not the guy to get into discussion with if it's your priority song to be played, Satisfaction can surely be replaced too.

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

syrel

"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

Yes but Miss You is over done now, personally for me it's always been a bathroom break so I'm probably not the guy to get into discussion with if it's your priority song to be played, Satisfaction can surely be replaced too.

Then good for you that they still play it - so you can empty your bladder in the middle of the set.

Guess your also one that leaves before Satisfaction to get out of the parking lot before anybody else?

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"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure many casual fans would come away saying 'I wish they'd played Miss You'. I think it's more important that it's one of their two non-60s singles, so I think Mick* won't leave them out for fear of becoming a 'sixties act'.

*I'm assuming it's Mick on the basis of previous interviews/discussions, but I don't know that for sure.

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

syrel

"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

Yes but Miss You is over done now, personally for me it's always been a bathroom break so I'm probably not the guy to get into discussion with if it's your priority song to be played, Satisfaction can surely be replaced too.

Then good for you that they still play it - so you can empty your bladder in the middle of the set.

Guess your also one that leaves before Satisfaction to get out of the parking lot before anybody else?

Why the attitude, I've never left a show until the end, you assume too much.
Pleased for you if you love Miss You and yeah i look at it as a bathroom break so it's all good.

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

syrel

"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

Yes but Miss You is over done now, personally for me it's always been a bathroom break so I'm probably not the guy to get into discussion with if it's your priority song to be played, Satisfaction can surely be replaced too.

Miss You is one of my favorite singles. From 78 - 82 it was a great life track as well. Later it became the definition of their "Vegas Style".
Only in 2006, when they played it the small stage moving into the crowd it began to live and was pure again.
But they won't drop it because of all the reasons mentioned.
And: As long, as they play Miss You, they play shows for us!

I wonder if Keith's been able to pick any songs this tour, he's become the ultimate yes man over the decades.
I guess he picks two that he sings but I'm sure he insists on GS and JJF.
Thought he loved Rambler?

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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

syrel

"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

Yes but Miss You is over done now, personally for me it's always been a bathroom break so I'm probably not the guy to get into discussion with if it's your priority song to be played, Satisfaction can surely be replaced too.

Miss You is one of my favorite singles. From 78 - 82 it was a great life track as well. Later it became the definition of their "Vegas Style".
Only in 2006, when they played it the small stage moving into the crowd it began to live and was pure again.
But they won't drop it because of all the reasons mentioned.
And: As long, as they play Miss You, they play shows for us!

They won't drop it ?
You mean Mick won't drop it, Keith loathes it to the point of not being on stage through most of it.

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One glaring omission from this setlist is Midnight Rambler but I'm confident it will reappear at various times.

I wonder too about Ghost Town - do you think this one will be retired now?

good god i hope midnight rambler makes a return to the regular set!

it's literally the only warhorse (can we call it a warhorse or does it transcend that classification?) i can't do without

as for ghost town i'd be very surprised if they play it again

maybe once just for fun but not a regular thing

in fact i'd personally be mildly annoyed if they were to play it in instead of a new track off hd

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They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Honestly I think it weared out a bit during recent tours. The jam part got a bit uninspired and they just got through the motions, lasting about 10 minutes only.

I'm glad they try something new

My humble opinion is that if there ever is a song that suffers from Charlie's absence, that's "Midnight Rambler". With him it was always so natural, how he interacts with the rest, especially with Keith, is simply out of this world, transcendental. With the new drummer is never the same, and the 'magic' of it never really happens. Something lacks.

But that said, that of omitting it from the regular set, as it looks like happening now, is not that big surprise. More surprising is that they have dared to play it so much for so long. Namely, like pointed here, it never been any big number among the casual fans. It something you never hear from radio, more like a cult song from the classic performances from the past. Those who know, know. Probably we hardcore fans are a bit blinded by its war horse status, taken its place there as granted. But the thing is - and why it's been there so long - it works damn well, and the band has been able to charm any audience with it, no matter do they know the song or not. There are not many songs like that.

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dont think they will skip rambler. Its the ultimate showcase of rock n roll, blues heritage and mick and keith friendship. Impressive ever time and they know it.

Paul McCartney reportedly was spotted at the same rehearsal facility.

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Exclusive: Rolling Stones US tour set to feature iconic popstar after setlist leak

Sir Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood kick off their sold-out Hackney Diamonds Tour on April 28 at the NRG Stadium in Houston, Texas. This week they were polishing songs at a venue in Burbank, LA.

"Sold-out" tour? My God, they really are reading IORR!

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Paul McCartney reportedly was spotted at the same rehearsal facility.

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I guess he picks two that he sings but I'm sure he insists on GS and JJF.

I've always assumed Keith insists on TD as well as those two. He's said in the past it's one of his favourites.

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I guess one or two days before the first show they will play the whole show in the stadium like they did in Madrid in 2022. We could here everything loud and clear outside.

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They are really mixing it up this time! Wow!!
First tour since 2007 with no Honky Tonk Woman before introductions and omitted Midnight Rambler, probably in favor of Sweet Sounds Of Heaven.

Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Honestly I think it weared out a bit during recent tours. The jam part got a bit uninspired and they just got through the motions, lasting about 10 minutes only.

I'm glad they try something new

My humble opinion is that if there ever is a song that suffers from Charlie's absence, that's "Midnight Rambler". With him it was always so natural, how he interacts with the rest, especially with Keith, is simply out of this world, transcendental. With the new drummer is never the same, and the 'magic' of it never really happens. Something lacks.

But that said, that of omitting it from the regular set, as it looks like happening now, is not that big surprise. More surprising is that they have dared to play it so much for so long. Namely, like pointed here, it never been any big number among the casual fans. It something you never hear from radio, more like a cult song from the classic performances from the past. Those who know, know. Probably we hardcore fans are a bit blinded by its war horse status, taken its place there as granted. But the thing is - and why it's been there so long - it works damn well, and the band has been able to charm any audience with it, no matter do they know the song or not. There are not many songs like that.

- Doxa

I am of the opinion that Midnight Rambler needed to be dropped from the setlist a while ago. Yes, it may be a showcase of their talents, especially for casual or new paying customers, but there are versions of it I have heard over the years that have just meandered, sounding like the boys are just going through the motions. IMHO, it has worn out its welcome and has been played too much at too many shows over the years. And frankly, that is a tune that needs Charlie Watts in the drummer's chair, because he added his own particular element of swing to that song. The good news is that the Stones can now fit at least two other songs in that slot. Plus, good for them for mixing things up and maybe pursuing a fresh approach.



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Speechless, Midnight Rambler is clearly the highlight of almost every show, i doubt its dropped for the reason of including a new track in its place, more likely Rambler is just too demanding physically for Mick now.

Nah, I think the more obvious explanation is that it's one of the 'less recognisable' warhorses, like SFM. They can't drop Satisfaction, or JJF, but they can MR. There are of course other non-essential warhorses that could be dropped, like Miss You, but Mick seems wedded to that one.

But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

syrel

"Miss You" was one of their biggest hit singles

Yes but Miss You is over done now, personally for me it's always been a bathroom break so I'm probably not the guy to get into discussion with if it's your priority song to be played, Satisfaction can surely be replaced too.

Miss You is one of my favorite singles. From 78 - 82 it was a great life track as well. Later it became the definition of their "Vegas Style".
Only in 2006, when they played it the small stage moving into the crowd it began to live and was pure again.
But they won't drop it because of all the reasons mentioned.
And: As long, as they play Miss You, they play shows for us!

They won't drop it ?
You mean Mick won't drop it, Keith loathes it to the point of not being on stage through most of it.

Your mania is getting worrisome again. It is always frightening when fans start to project too much their own ideas into their idols' minds. And then seeing them 'selling
their soul' or something. This is the Mark
Chapman route.

Besides, if you go see The Rolling Stones it is always them who perform there any given song. They will play or not play it. Who is behind any decision has no importance. Somebody - like is always the case in decision-making - does that. And then they all are behind it and do their best, being pros they are. It is stupid to project there anything else. I cannot help if the real Keith Richards - a proud member of The Rolling Stones - does not match with the ideal Keith Richards of your fancy (a solo artist of your own choice or something).


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You really are sad Doxa, someone who sees things differently to you means they are Mark Chapman.
You carry on with your campaign mate and I'll carry on speaking my mind.

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But I agree - the setlist just took a notable turn for the worse. (Don't want to start an argument/spoil anyone's fun, but I lost a lot of enthusiasm I had for the tour with that rehearsal list.)

Yeah, me too. The HD songs are not enough to save the day — even if they were more than four on offer.

As for warhorses, I’d take MR over MY, YCAGWYW and Satisfaction any day. One of the few songs with notable variations in their deliveries night to night when they play it live onstage, which makes it more thrilling to hear than most other songs in their concert repertoire.
That being said, they dropped MR on most of the VL and B2B shows (12/133 and 10/117, respectively) and roughly half of the Licks and ABB shows (61/116 and 75/145, respectively) so this is not the first time.