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They have done great music with Wood.

They have done gorgeous music with Taylor.

They have done groundbreaking music with Jones.
Ronnie Wood is terrific.



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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.They have much better choices than Ron Wood,so it,s stupid to say he saved the Stones

Stupid?!?!



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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.They have much better choices than Ron Wood,so it,s stupid to say he saved the Stones

Ahhhhh, the great Carnac The Magnificent has spoken.

Your name features Ronnie Wood playing on it.

How magnificent.

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Getting back to Ronnie, do many of you think Ronnie is much better than what we hear from his playing, I'm constantly frustrated he holds back to much, flashes of brilliance that make you feel yeah more Ronnie, much more.
I guess this is why Keith said that Ronnie is the most sympathetic guitarist he has ever played with.

His solo in Start Me Up in 2024 has been horrific. Otherwise he's been pretty damn good. Vacant? Maybe in places. I dunno. It's always been something with him like that.

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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

They didn't need a better one. That's not what the Stones are all about; It would have been the end of the Rolling Stones -becoming off-balance musically. Ask the majority of the fans.

With the exception of a few die-hard Taylorites, (like me). Or preferably an even better player than Taylor.

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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

They didn't need a better one. That's not what the Stones are all about; It would have been the end of the Rolling Stones -becoming off-balance musically. Ask the majority of the fans.

With the exception of a few die-hard Taylorites, (like me). Or preferably an even better player than Taylor.

Hard to think of a guitarist who could have played better live than Taylor in 1972-1973 .Joe Satriani is considered an incredible great.Yet his playing on Rolling Stone songs on his live shows with Jagger aren’t better

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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

They didn't need a better one. That's not what the Stones are all about; It would have been the end of the Rolling Stones -becoming off-balance musically. Ask the majority of the fans.

With the exception of a few die-hard Taylorites, (like me). Or preferably an even better player than Taylor.

Hard to think of a guitarist who could have played better live than Taylor in 1972-1973 .Joe Satriani is considered an incredible great.Yet his playing on Rolling Stone songs on his live shows with Jagger aren’t better

Yeah, yuck.

Still stupid comments about Wood save the Stones,really?

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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

"Better" is such a broad term when it comes to guitar playing. Is Yngwie Malmsteen a better guitar player than Ronnie Wood? In terms of technical wizardry and speed, yes he is. But when it comes to musicality, feel, rhythm playing, supporting the rest of the band, Ronnie is a much better player.



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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

"Better" is such a broad term when it comes to guitar playing. Is Yngwie Malmsteen a better guitar player than Ronnie Wood? In terms of technical wizardry and speed, yes he is. But when it comes to musicality, feel, rhythm playing, supporting the rest of the band, Ronnie is a much better player.

Yngwie Malmsteen is a bad example. There are a lot of fantastic rock guitarists with a blues and rock'n'roll feel, and you know that... And they know how to come up with an inspired, exciting solo and an applied rhythm section, giving the song strength and continuous energy.

Ronnie 'saving' the Stones had nothing to do with his guitar abilities.

That's a misconception.

Well there certainly wasn't room for another big ego.

...and I don't know how, in overall terms, anybody can say that Ronnie isn't the perfect fit.

He oiled the wheels of the band dynamic and probably helped pull their image away from that increasingly tired looking disciples of Satan and prophets of doom bollocks which they got tagged with in the late sixties.

From a guitar perspective, he certainly tailored [no pun intended] his playing to fit the slot .
It's very different from his stuff with Rod and the Faces.
Some of his Faces style playing, particularly on acoustic, might have worked well on a few stones numbers...but that's another conversation.

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From a guitar perspective, he certainly tailored [no pun intended] his playing to fit the slot .

If tailored means to reduce, then it's a success.

He was infinitely more creative, focused and reliable in the Faces.

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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

They didn't need a better one. That's not what the Stones are all about; It would have been the end of the Rolling Stones -becoming off-balance musically. Ask the majority of the fans.

With the exception of a few die-hard Taylorites, (like me). Or preferably an even better player than Taylor.

Hard to think of a guitarist who could have played better live than Taylor in 1972-1973 .Joe Satriani is considered an incredible great.Yet his playing on Rolling Stone songs on his live shows with Jagger aren’t better

WtF, it's only words, all we write.

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.... But ya gotta live with them .........

Exactly.

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Mick Taylor Swift fanboys are everywhere

You got that right

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Stones could have had a much better guitarplayer than Ron Wood.

They didn't need a better one. That's not what the Stones are all about; It would have been the end of the Rolling Stones -becoming off-balance musically. Ask the majority of the fans.

With the exception of a few die-hard Taylorites, (like me). Or preferably an even better player than Taylor.

Hard to think of a guitarist who could have played better live than Taylor in 1972-1973 .Joe Satriani is considered an incredible great.Yet his playing on Rolling Stone songs on his live shows with Jagger aren’t better

There are no better guitarists than Taylor for the Stones, not just his playing, the songs he was involved in are the best Stones tracks as far as I'm concerned.
Ronnie brought mediocrity to the greatest rock band in the world, his creative input wasn't as inspiring to the band as Taylor's

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There are no better guitarists than Taylor for the Stones, not just his playing, the songs he was involved in are the best Stones tracks as far as I'm concerned.
Ronnie brought mediocrity to the greatest rock band in the world, his creative input wasn't as inspiring to the band as Taylor's

Basically I agree. Only thing is I think they couldn't of went much further with Mick T. I base this on my thoughts of Jimi Hendrix for example. If he would of lived just how much further could he of taken it. All this makes for great mythology. Same goes for The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and others. Maybe Ronnie wasn't supposed to be as prolific as Mick T. or Brian for that matter. He's just a good mate that plays well with the band and suits the part rather well. Anyhow, I certainly like him, but I wouldn't agree he saved The Stones. They didn't need saving in my opinion.



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Jimi Hendrix with the Rolling Stones?

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Jimi Hendrix with the Rolling Stones?

you joke but that's an interesting hypothetical

imagine midnight rambler live with hendrix or cyhmk

but he would have probably gotten bored with them and moved on after a couple of years just like taylor and we would have just ended up with good old ronnie anyways

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Jimi Hendrix with the Rolling Stones?

you joke but that's an interesting hypothetical

imagine midnight rambler live with hendrix or cyhmk

but he would have probably gotten bored with them and moved on after a couple of years just like taylor and we would have just ended up with good old ronnie anyways

Oh, I definitely can imagine it. The Stones were the greatest R&R band in the world, but Hendrix was a force of nature.

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Jimi Hendrix with the Rolling Stones?

Hard scenario for Mick and Keith. Keith probably would have taken even more minimalist riff master/rhythm guitarist role than with Taylor, and Mick should have moved even more like Jagger to keep the spotlight on him. Musically Jimi probably might prefered to work more with Brian than with the Dartford boys. The Jagger/Richards compositions might have a whole different direction if Jimi have had a hand in them...

But to develop this totally insane thought experiment further, I guess one needs a bit of acid or something...

But Ronnie is terrific.

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Jimi Hendrix with the Rolling Stones?

you joke but that's an interesting hypothetical

imagine midnight rambler live with hendrix or cyhmk

but he would have probably gotten bored with them and moved on after a couple of years just like taylor and we would have just ended up with good old ronnie anyways

Oh, I definitely can imagine it. The Stones were the greatest R&R band in the world, but Hendrix was a force of nature.

just the visual of it alone

imagine hendrix with them on the 72 tour with mick and keith going full out with him onstage doing his thing too

and imagine if in 75-76 they let him do his own songs in the middle of the show

hendrix backed by the stones!

we need an alternate history hendrix thread

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Jimi Hendrix with the Rolling Stones?

Hard scenario for Mick and Keith. Keith probably would have taken even more minimalist riff master/rhythm guitarist role than with Taylor, and Mick should have moved even more like Jagger to keep the spotlight on him. Musically Jimi probably might prefered to work more with Brian than with the Dartford boys. The Jagger/Richards compositions might have a whole different direction if Jimi have had a hand in them...

But to develop this totally insane thought experiment further, I guess one needs a bit of acid or something...

But Ronnie is terrific.

- Doxa

We shouldn't take this too serious, but I think there are basically 2 options:
Either Hendrix got payed very well to step in Jones' or Taylor's shoes, and just like Ron Wood, do his duty. Option two: It would bore the hell out of Hendrix (respectfully) and he would walk away within 3 weeks.

Lets just keep these monster artists separated.

.... Cant imagine Come On with a 20 minute Hendrix guitar break ....



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Jimi and The Rolling Stones together. Haha, now there's a mismatch of epic proportion. Both great in their own ways, but could never join forces.