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An album recorded in 2023 sounds like it was recorded in 2023 and not in the 60-ies or 70-ies. OMG, how could that happen?
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An album recorded in 2023 sounds like it was recorded in 2023 and not in the 60-ies or 70-ies. OMG, how could that happen?
Well, quite. However, it's the 'kind' of modern production that Hackney Diamonds has received. If recorded by Don Was, it may have sounded more like A Bigger Bang; which, for me, would be preferable. Instead, they picked a trendy, pop-producer, who's, of-late garnered a reputation for attempting to rejuvenate ageing rock-stars: Ozzy; Iggy Pop, etc. Unfortunately, his 'taste' isn't for everyone.
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Doxa
Okay, just another thread of 'let's whine all together' and tell how much this or that sucks. A group therapy for grumpy old men a'la IORR I guess.
- Doxa
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Doxa
Okay, just another thread of 'let's whine all together' and tell how much this or that sucks. A group therapy for grumpy old men a'la IORR I guess.
- Doxa
If you don't like it why don't you piss off and be happy elsewhere.
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GasLightStreet
Stuck in the past Stones fans have extreme difficulty hearing or listening to anything new - going back to 1983's UNDERCOVER.
"Oh they're not... (enter excuses here) anymore".
HACKNEY DIAMONDS is a brilliant album.
So sorry for your loss.
I had no problem to listen to ANY other recent stones album, I became a Stones fan in 1995, Ilove every album up to ABB. B&L I found a little boring but still feels right. Brilliant?? Never underestimate the power of denial my friend. I was on denial too regarding Hackney...just...let it go..hope the next one is better though.
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Funny, cause the "band" that plays on most of the tracks on Hackneyed sounds so generic I'd be hard pressed to know its actually the Stones. Without Mick's vocals, there's nothing distinctively Stones about it, and I'd have welcomed experimenting with more modern music recording to see if it would make any better of an album.
I totally agree. And I thought I was the only one here who didn't like the album. A weak "Stones by Numbers" single, mostly boring songs, a conventional mainstream production, and one of the worst covers ever produced by anyone. It even tops Undercover. It's still a miracle to me how this could pass Jaggers quality controll. I maybe wrong (I am not a musician), but my first impression was that most of the guitars were played by Andrew Watt. For me, HD is a complete disappointment.
A word about Keith. I love him. I've been a fan for over 50 years. But his musical horizon ends with Otis, Chuck, Jerry Lee, Gregory Isaacs, Robert Johnson, and so on. He hasn't been open to new music since the 1970s. He doesn't have to be; he's Keith. But he shouldn't judge music he doesn't understand anything about. Just my opinion.
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Kurt
At least we can all agree that The Stones Sucked in the 70's...
"Modern IORR is a one-way toilet"
-Kurt
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Doxa
Okay, just another thread of 'let's whine all together' and tell how much this or that sucks. A group therapy for grumpy old men a'la IORR I guess.
- Doxa
If you don't like it why don't you piss off and be happy elsewhere.Bullies like you wish that but no way...
- Doxa
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Kurt
At least we can all agree that The Stones Sucked in the 70's...
"Modern IORR is a one-way toilet"
-Kurt
Even sucking is not like it used to be... That SUCKS!
- Doxa
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MadMax
Hackney Diamonds is very much MOR stuff production wise. It doesn't have that typical DRY Stones sound ONLY our boys have mastered.
Steve Jordan said it best in the Dec 2023 issue of MOJO.
Personally I'd love Chris Kimsey or Don Was to come back.
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MadMax
Hackney Diamonds is very much MOR stuff production wise. It doesn't have that typical DRY Stones sound ONLY our boys have mastered.
Steve Jordan said it best in the Dec 2023 issue of MOJO.
Personally I'd love Chris Kimsey or Don Was to come back.
You have to admire Steve's honesty, he also commented that he himself could have produced the album.
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GasLightStreet
Stuck in the past Stones fans have extreme difficulty hearing or listening to anything new - going back to 1983's UNDERCOVER.
"Oh they're not... (enter excuses here) anymore".
HACKNEY DIAMONDS is a brilliant album.
So sorry for your loss.
Hackney Diamonds is not "anything new". Tattoo You sounds fresher and newer than Hackney Diamonds. Even DW, one of their worst albums ever, at least they stuck their neck out and tried to mess things up a bit. Badly, sure. But at least they tried. HD is an album full of well-played middle of the road polished meaningless rock songs without any edge or conviction.
Sure, it's very profesionally done, for which we have to thank Andrew Watt, I suppose. It's a deep-frozen pizza or a paella on the Ramblas of Barcelona. It will pass the health inspection but nothing more.
For a band themselves, every new song should be an adventure, they should have the feeling they're on to something, that one way or other they just gave a new turn on what they do and what they can do. HD is none of that. Give it 5 more years and nobody will listen to it anymore.
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MadMax
Hackney Diamonds is very much MOR stuff production wise. It doesn't have that typical DRY Stones sound ONLY our boys have mastered.
Steve Jordan said it best in the Dec 2023 issue of MOJO.
Personally I'd love Chris Kimsey or Don Was to come back.
You have to admire Steve's honesty, he also commented that he himself could have produced the album.
Yeah I agree 100%. It was very refreshing. I mean, I ä, like you, prefer CH much more than HD. I think CH is a MASTERPIECE, just think about Steve's playing and those P-90's shining through on the last track. Sweet honey for the heart, soul and ears
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MadMax
Hackney Diamonds is very much MOR stuff production wise. It doesn't have that typical DRY Stones sound ONLY our boys have mastered.
Steve Jordan said it best in the Dec 2023 issue of MOJO.
Personally I'd love Chris Kimsey or Don Was to come back.
You have to admire Steve's honesty, he also commented that he himself could have produced the album.
Yeah I agree 100%. It was very refreshing. I mean, I ä, like you, prefer CH much more than HD. I think CH is a MASTERPIECE, just think about Steve's playing and those P-90's shining through on the last track. Sweet honey for the heart, soul and ears
I like Dirty Work more than HD and I'm not being sarcastic.
I can understand why some Stones fans like HD, it's kind of what Jagger would want from an album, he was probably happy he sounded young on it and he's right up there high in the mix, but once you hear Mick sing a few tracks from HD live you realise he can't produce anything like the vocals needed for it to work or have the power and punch we expect from the Stones, basically none of the tracks worked live with the exception of Keith's track.
But that's supposed to be the most important aspect of a Stones album, that the tracks work live and grow throughout their tour's.
I don't think the Stones have made albums that work particularly well live for a very long time.
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GasLightStreet
Stuck in the past Stones fans have extreme difficulty hearing or listening to anything new - going back to 1983's UNDERCOVER.
"Oh they're not... (enter excuses here) anymore".
HACKNEY DIAMONDS is a brilliant album.
So sorry for your loss.
Hackney Diamonds is not "anything new". Tattoo You sounds fresher and newer than Hackney Diamonds. Even DW, one of their worst albums ever, at least they stuck their neck out and tried to mess things up a bit. Badly, sure. But at least they tried. HD is an album full of well-played middle of the road polished meaningless rock songs without any edge or conviction.
Sure, it's very profesionally done, for which we have to thank Andrew Watt, I suppose. It's a deep-frozen pizza or a paella on the Ramblas of Barcelona. It will pass the health inspection but nothing more.
For a band themselves, every new song should be an adventure, they should have the feeling they're on to something, that one way or other they just gave a new turn on what they do and what they can do. HD is none of that. Give it 5 more years and nobody will listen to it anymore.
Brilliant post. I really wish that the people licking this album's ass could come up with something even half as good. I don't expect much from inarticulate morons like Gas but please stop with the cringey de-Nile jokes.
P.S. I just listened to Dreamy Skies (since people here seem to rate it), first time I've listened to anything from HD in at least a year. It's alright but it seems like they were wearing pajamas when they recorded it. Expensive pajamas.
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Doxa
Okay, just another thread of 'let's whine all together' and tell how much this or that sucks. A group therapy for grumpy old men a'la IORR I guess.
- Doxa
If you don't like iorr why don't you piss off and be happy elsewhere.
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MadMax
Hackney Diamonds is very much MOR stuff production wise. It doesn't have that typical DRY Stones sound ONLY our boys have mastered.
Steve Jordan said it best in the Dec 2023 issue of MOJO.
Personally I'd love Chris Kimsey or Don Was to come back.
You have to admire Steve's honesty, he also commented that he himself could have produced the album.
Yeah I agree 100%. It was very refreshing. I mean, I ä, like you, prefer CH much more than HD. I think CH is a MASTERPIECE, just think about Steve's playing and those P-90's shining through on the last track. Sweet honey for the heart, soul and ears
I like Dirty Work more than HD and I'm not being sarcastic.
I can understand why some Stones fans like HD, it's kind of what Jagger would want from an album, he was probably happy he sounded young on it and he's right up there high in the mix, but once you hear Mick sing a few tracks from HD live you realise he can't produce anything like the vocals needed for it to work or have the power and punch we expect from the Stones, basically none of the tracks worked live with the exception of Keith's track.
But that's supposed to be the most important aspect of a Stones album, that the tracks work live and grow throughout their tour's.
I don't think the Stones have made albums that work particularly well live for a very long time.
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Kurt
At least we can all agree that The Stones Sucked in the 70's...
"Modern IORR is a one-way toilet"
-Kurt