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Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: February 4, 2025 17:45

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Somebody wake up the genius execs at Polydor/Universal and remind them that the 18-month clock they set to promote Hackney Diamonds is still ticking.

Hackney Diamonds GRAMMY Edition .... 2LP Gold Vinyl winking smiley

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: HardRiffin ()
Date: February 4, 2025 23:42

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Now would be a good time to finally release the HD documentary

...and then go in the studio for a new album!!

And make a documentary about that too - then combine both.

thumbs up

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: February 5, 2025 00:16

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Somebody wake up the genius execs at Polydor/Universal and remind them that the 18-month clock they set to promote Hackney Diamonds is still ticking.

lol. Does anyone know what happened to that „master marketing plan“?

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: rogerriffin ()
Date: February 5, 2025 00:32

In the email inbox today!


Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: doitywoik ()
Date: February 5, 2025 13:16

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Somebody wake up the genius execs at Polydor/Universal and remind them that the 18-month clock they set to promote Hackney Diamonds is still ticking.

lol. Does anyone know what happened to that „master marketing plan“?

Perhaps the same thing that happened to the HD Making-Of documentary?

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: slewan ()
Date: February 5, 2025 13:16

bad luck for them (and anyone else) that they just cancelled the tour…

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: bv ()
Date: February 5, 2025 13:25

Please do not post off topic nude pictures here. This thread is about Hackney Diamonds, and it's achievements. Thank you.

Bjornulf

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 5, 2025 23:42

My fault Bjornulf .....
My apologies for disrupting thread.



ROCKMAN

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 6, 2025 07:11

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So happy the Stones won a grammy for Hackney Diamonds - I listened to it again today just to remind myself how great it really is~ and the song "Rolling Stone Blues" featuring MICK, Keef & Ronnie is the cherry on top! That sealed the deal, for sure!

Well, my mother told my father just before I, I was born
She said, "Got a boy child comin', he's gonna be, gonna be a rolling stone
He's gonna be a rolling stone, he's gonna be a rolling stone
Oh well"

Ronnie doesn't play on Rollin' Stone Blues.

Nothing against Ronnie, but that song coming at the end, just acoustic Keith and Mick, was the essence of the Rolling Stones for me.

Of course not. It's not a dig on Ronnie, just a fact.

Do the Stones deserve a Grammy? I have no idea. It's their fifth Grammy and second for best rock album. Does a Grammy matter? I suppose some numbers could tell the tale in a month but their Super Bowl 40 half time show didn't do anything in that regard.

Regardless, the three of them laugh their way to the bank, as people say. They're the biggest whatever rock band of all time, at $2.4 billion (Taylor Swift is at $3 billion but she's not a band) with U2 barely behind them (and U2 has sold almost 4 million more tickets) at $2.37 billion.

The numbers get goofy after that aspect.

HACKNEY DIAMONDS will go down as... it may be correct to say their best since TATTOO YOU so in that regard, critically, it's a Top 10 Stones album of all time.

Blah blah blah EXILE well that's a long album. It's not as defined. BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

As with all their albums up through UNDERCOVER, leftovers were used or worked on. DIRTY WORK onward it's all been new (except Highwire).

The next album, if they do one, will be tied to HACKNEY unless they record all newly written songs. They've had ABC time to visit 90 some songs or whatever that lead up to HD and have apparently done nothing and there's no indication they will do anything so that little bump of a ride with HD is apparently over and HD could very well be their last LP.

Fine. Whatever.

If they do one more album hopefully it has a better name, although HACKNEY DIAMONDS is fine, and all going back through 1994 are fine, but the last two hits comps names suck, and hopefully it will have much better artwork.

UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover. Unless you want to count REWIND, which, yes, should be counted.

REWIND was the end of The Rolling Stones as a creative band by representing UNDERCOVER with one song. Although the not quite title track is really good, they could've included She Was Hot - it's a great tune, regardless of what that guy says in his book.

It's nice they won a Grammy (again).

However.

They're far beyond such accolades.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 6, 2025 07:47

Treacle, do you think...

Historically here at iorr.org there have been some posters that were quite deceptively beguiling. With quite live by the sword names. JumpinJackOLantern is one.

Without getting too angry, do you think - tell me straight - that someone is off their meds in the whole wide world of iorr.org? They seem to enjoy an aspect of weird dreamy skies to mess it up for a lot of people. They just seem so angry.

Oh.

So sorry.

My bad.

Such drivel.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Barkerboy2 ()
Date: February 6, 2025 11:25

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So happy the Stones won a grammy for Hackney Diamonds - I listened to it again today just to remind myself how great it really is~ and the song "Rolling Stone Blues" featuring MICK, Keef & Ronnie is the cherry on top! That sealed the deal, for sure!

Well, my mother told my father just before I, I was born
She said, "Got a boy child comin', he's gonna be, gonna be a rolling stone
He's gonna be a rolling stone, he's gonna be a rolling stone
Oh well"

Ronnie doesn't play on Rollin' Stone Blues.

Nothing against Ronnie, but that song coming at the end, just acoustic Keith and Mick, was the essence of the Rolling Stones for me.

Of course not. It's not a dig on Ronnie, just a fact.

Do the Stones deserve a Grammy? I have no idea. It's their fifth Grammy and second for best rock album. Does a Grammy matter? I suppose some numbers could tell the tale in a month but their Super Bowl 40 half time show didn't do anything in that regard.

Regardless, the three of them laugh their way to the bank, as people say. They're the biggest whatever rock band of all time, at $2.4 billion (Taylor Swift is at $3 billion but she's not a band) with U2 barely behind them (and U2 has sold almost 4 million more tickets) at $2.37 billion.

The numbers get goofy after that aspect.

HACKNEY DIAMONDS will go down as... it may be correct to say their best since TATTOO YOU so in that regard, critically, it's a Top 10 Stones album of all time.

Blah blah blah EXILE well that's a long album. It's not as defined. BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

As with all their albums up through UNDERCOVER, leftovers were used or worked on. DIRTY WORK onward it's all been new (except Highwire).

The next album, if they do one, will be tied to HACKNEY unless they record all newly written songs. They've had ABC time to visit 90 some songs or whatever that lead up to HD and have apparently done nothing and there's no indication they will do anything so that little bump of a ride with HD is apparently over and HD could very well be their last LP.

Fine. Whatever.

If they do one more album hopefully it has a better name, although HACKNEY DIAMONDS is fine, and all going back through 1994 are fine, but the last two hits comps names suck, and hopefully it will have much better artwork.

UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover. Unless you want to count REWIND, which, yes, should be counted.

REWIND was the end of The Rolling Stones as a creative band by representing UNDERCOVER with one song. Although the not quite title track is really good, they could've included She Was Hot - it's a great tune, regardless of what that guy says in his book.

It's nice they won a Grammy (again).

However.

They're far beyond such accolades.

What does "UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover" mean?

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: February 6, 2025 13:12

I suppose it means "the last one you liked" ...a too common confusion between fact and opinion grinning smiley

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Barkerboy2 ()
Date: February 6, 2025 14:26

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I suppose it means "the last one you liked" ...a too common confusion between fact and opinion grinning smiley

Noted cool smiley

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: February 6, 2025 15:55

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Treacle, do you think...

Historically here at iorr.org there have been some posters that were quite deceptively beguiling. With quite live by the sword names. JumpinJackOLantern is one.

Without getting too angry, do you think - tell me straight - that someone is off their meds in the whole wide world of iorr.org? They seem to enjoy an aspect of weird dreamy skies to mess it up for a lot of people. They just seem so angry.

Oh.

So sorry.

My bad.

Such drivel.

If the question posed is what I've bolded above, I can tell you with certainty two things:

1. Almost certainly there are people off their meds.
2. I am completely unqualified to render an opinion as to whether anyone is off their meds.

I hope that clarifies things, best I could muster!

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 7, 2025 09:05

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So happy the Stones won a grammy for Hackney Diamonds - I listened to it again today just to remind myself how great it really is~ and the song "Rolling Stone Blues" featuring MICK, Keef & Ronnie is the cherry on top! That sealed the deal, for sure!

Well, my mother told my father just before I, I was born
She said, "Got a boy child comin', he's gonna be, gonna be a rolling stone
He's gonna be a rolling stone, he's gonna be a rolling stone
Oh well"

Ronnie doesn't play on Rollin' Stone Blues.

Nothing against Ronnie, but that song coming at the end, just acoustic Keith and Mick, was the essence of the Rolling Stones for me.

Of course not. It's not a dig on Ronnie, just a fact.

Do the Stones deserve a Grammy? I have no idea. It's their fifth Grammy and second for best rock album. Does a Grammy matter? I suppose some numbers could tell the tale in a month but their Super Bowl 40 half time show didn't do anything in that regard.

Regardless, the three of them laugh their way to the bank, as people say. They're the biggest whatever rock band of all time, at $2.4 billion (Taylor Swift is at $3 billion but she's not a band) with U2 barely behind them (and U2 has sold almost 4 million more tickets) at $2.37 billion.

The numbers get goofy after that aspect.

HACKNEY DIAMONDS will go down as... it may be correct to say their best since TATTOO YOU so in that regard, critically, it's a Top 10 Stones album of all time.

Blah blah blah EXILE well that's a long album. It's not as defined. BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

As with all their albums up through UNDERCOVER, leftovers were used or worked on. DIRTY WORK onward it's all been new (except Highwire).

The next album, if they do one, will be tied to HACKNEY unless they record all newly written songs. They've had ABC time to visit 90 some songs or whatever that lead up to HD and have apparently done nothing and there's no indication they will do anything so that little bump of a ride with HD is apparently over and HD could very well be their last LP.

Fine. Whatever.

If they do one more album hopefully it has a better name, although HACKNEY DIAMONDS is fine, and all going back through 1994 are fine, but the last two hits comps names suck, and hopefully it will have much better artwork.

UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover. Unless you want to count REWIND, which, yes, should be counted.

REWIND was the end of The Rolling Stones as a creative band by representing UNDERCOVER with one song. Although the not quite title track is really good, they could've included She Was Hot - it's a great tune, regardless of what that guy says in his book.

It's nice they won a Grammy (again).

However.

They're far beyond such accolades.

What does "UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover" mean?

It's actual art. It's not a digital whatever like everything since. HACKENY DIAMONDS is just as horrific as VOODOO and BRIDGES. Every album cover since has sucked (at least BANG had the band).

And, to my eyes and ears, UNDERCOVER's album cover fantastically represents the music in the album.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: February 7, 2025 09:51

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... BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

If all the stuff on LIB and SF had sat in the can for the same time period, then been finished off and produced as a double album...

..I wonder what it would have sounded like ?

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 7, 2025 10:50

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... BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

If all the stuff on LIB and SF had sat in the can for the same time period, then been finished off and produced as a double album...

..I wonder what it would have sounded like ?

An album of quite differing sounds. As much as Let it Bleed pointed to a future direction, I find the sound of Stick Fingers to be an all together different beast. Can't You Hear Me Knocking and Sway, for example, would have no place on Let It Bleed. Gimme Shelter, has no other home than an album such as Let it Bleed, signalling the last cry and death of the 60's.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Barkerboy2 ()
Date: February 7, 2025 11:34

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So happy the Stones won a grammy for Hackney Diamonds - I listened to it again today just to remind myself how great it really is~ and the song "Rolling Stone Blues" featuring MICK, Keef & Ronnie is the cherry on top! That sealed the deal, for sure!

Well, my mother told my father just before I, I was born
She said, "Got a boy child comin', he's gonna be, gonna be a rolling stone
He's gonna be a rolling stone, he's gonna be a rolling stone
Oh well"

Ronnie doesn't play on Rollin' Stone Blues.

Nothing against Ronnie, but that song coming at the end, just acoustic Keith and Mick, was the essence of the Rolling Stones for me.

Of course not. It's not a dig on Ronnie, just a fact.

Do the Stones deserve a Grammy? I have no idea. It's their fifth Grammy and second for best rock album. Does a Grammy matter? I suppose some numbers could tell the tale in a month but their Super Bowl 40 half time show didn't do anything in that regard.

Regardless, the three of them laugh their way to the bank, as people say. They're the biggest whatever rock band of all time, at $2.4 billion (Taylor Swift is at $3 billion but she's not a band) with U2 barely behind them (and U2 has sold almost 4 million more tickets) at $2.37 billion.

The numbers get goofy after that aspect.

HACKNEY DIAMONDS will go down as... it may be correct to say their best since TATTOO YOU so in that regard, critically, it's a Top 10 Stones album of all time.

Blah blah blah EXILE well that's a long album. It's not as defined. BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

As with all their albums up through UNDERCOVER, leftovers were used or worked on. DIRTY WORK onward it's all been new (except Highwire).

The next album, if they do one, will be tied to HACKNEY unless they record all newly written songs. They've had ABC time to visit 90 some songs or whatever that lead up to HD and have apparently done nothing and there's no indication they will do anything so that little bump of a ride with HD is apparently over and HD could very well be their last LP.

Fine. Whatever.

If they do one more album hopefully it has a better name, although HACKNEY DIAMONDS is fine, and all going back through 1994 are fine, but the last two hits comps names suck, and hopefully it will have much better artwork.

UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover. Unless you want to count REWIND, which, yes, should be counted.

REWIND was the end of The Rolling Stones as a creative band by representing UNDERCOVER with one song. Although the not quite title track is really good, they could've included She Was Hot - it's a great tune, regardless of what that guy says in his book.

It's nice they won a Grammy (again).

However.

They're far beyond such accolades.

What does "UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover" mean?

It's actual art. It's not a digital whatever like everything since. HACKENY DIAMONDS is just as horrific as VOODOO and BRIDGES. Every album cover since has sucked (at least BANG had the band).

And, to my eyes and ears, UNDERCOVER's album cover fantastically represents the music in the album.

But you contradicted that statement with this answer. A Bigger Bang's cover is a photo of the band. That was why I asked.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: February 7, 2025 12:24

uote="Big Al"]
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An album of quite differing sounds. As much as Let it Bleed pointed to a future direction, I find the sound of Stick Fingers to be an all together different beast. Can't You Hear Me Knocking and Sway, for example, would have no place on Let It Bleed. Gimme Shelter, has no other home than an album such as Let it Bleed, signalling the last cry and death of the 60's.[/quote]

Yes ...

And aside from the songs and musicianship thereon, every album paints its own individual acoustic landscape , with a unique vibe all of its own.

It's a fascinating thing...and certainly very true of these two albums, neither of which I could imagine being without.


..and HD certainly has a very different production and vibe to other "modern era" releases



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Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: February 7, 2025 13:11

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An album of quite differing sounds. As much as Let it Bleed pointed to a future direction, I find the sound of Stick Fingers to be an all together different beast. Can't You Hear Me Knocking and Sway, for example, would have no place on Let It Bleed. Gimme Shelter, has no other home than an album such as Let it Bleed, signalling the last cry and death of the 60's.

Yes ...

And aside from the songs and musicianship thereon, every album paints its own individual acoustic landscape , with a unique vibe all of its own.

It's a fascinating thing...and certainly very true of these two albums, neither of which I could imagine being without.


..and HD certainly has a very different production and vibe to other "modern era" releases[/quote]

It certainly does. For me, it's the Stones' first truly 'contemporary sounding' album in decades. The closest they've came, post-'89, is with a few tracks here and there: Anybody Seen My Baby was very 1997, production-wise; Doom & Gloom was appropriately 'modern-sounding' in it's production, too.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 8, 2025 02:22

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So happy the Stones won a grammy for Hackney Diamonds - I listened to it again today just to remind myself how great it really is~ and the song "Rolling Stone Blues" featuring MICK, Keef & Ronnie is the cherry on top! That sealed the deal, for sure!

Well, my mother told my father just before I, I was born
She said, "Got a boy child comin', he's gonna be, gonna be a rolling stone
He's gonna be a rolling stone, he's gonna be a rolling stone
Oh well"

Ronnie doesn't play on Rollin' Stone Blues.

Nothing against Ronnie, but that song coming at the end, just acoustic Keith and Mick, was the essence of the Rolling Stones for me.

Of course not. It's not a dig on Ronnie, just a fact.

Do the Stones deserve a Grammy? I have no idea. It's their fifth Grammy and second for best rock album. Does a Grammy matter? I suppose some numbers could tell the tale in a month but their Super Bowl 40 half time show didn't do anything in that regard.

Regardless, the three of them laugh their way to the bank, as people say. They're the biggest whatever rock band of all time, at $2.4 billion (Taylor Swift is at $3 billion but she's not a band) with U2 barely behind them (and U2 has sold almost 4 million more tickets) at $2.37 billion.

The numbers get goofy after that aspect.

HACKNEY DIAMONDS will go down as... it may be correct to say their best since TATTOO YOU so in that regard, critically, it's a Top 10 Stones album of all time.

Blah blah blah EXILE well that's a long album. It's not as defined. BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

As with all their albums up through UNDERCOVER, leftovers were used or worked on. DIRTY WORK onward it's all been new (except Highwire).

The next album, if they do one, will be tied to HACKNEY unless they record all newly written songs. They've had ABC time to visit 90 some songs or whatever that lead up to HD and have apparently done nothing and there's no indication they will do anything so that little bump of a ride with HD is apparently over and HD could very well be their last LP.

Fine. Whatever.

If they do one more album hopefully it has a better name, although HACKNEY DIAMONDS is fine, and all going back through 1994 are fine, but the last two hits comps names suck, and hopefully it will have much better artwork.

UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover. Unless you want to count REWIND, which, yes, should be counted.

REWIND was the end of The Rolling Stones as a creative band by representing UNDERCOVER with one song. Although the not quite title track is really good, they could've included She Was Hot - it's a great tune, regardless of what that guy says in his book.

It's nice they won a Grammy (again).

However.

They're far beyond such accolades.

What does "UNDERCOVER was their last real album cover" mean?

It's actual art. It's not a digital whatever like everything since. HACKENY DIAMONDS is just as horrific as VOODOO and BRIDGES. Every album cover since has sucked (at least BANG had the band).

And, to my eyes and ears, UNDERCOVER's album cover fantastically represents the music in the album.

But you contradicted that statement with this answer. A Bigger Bang's cover is a photo of the band. That was why I asked.

No I didn't. Stating at least BANG had the band doesn't equate to it being good art. It's underwhelming. UNDERCOVER was the last inventive album musically and album cover wise.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 8, 2025 02:27

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... BEGGARS-FINGERS is their absolute peak, with BLEED-FINGERS almost being a double album.

EXILE was the remnants of both with some new.

A minute few stragglers made it to SOUP. If Silver Train had been finished for FINGERS or EXILE would people love it? Because that's when it arrived. 100 Years Ago same thing - supposedly.

If all the stuff on LIB and SF had sat in the can for the same time period, then been finished off and produced as a double album...

..I wonder what it would have sounded like ?

An album of quite differing sounds. As much as Let it Bleed pointed to a future direction, I find the sound of Stick Fingers to be an all together different beast. Can't You Hear Me Knocking and Sway, for example, would have no place on Let It Bleed. Gimme Shelter, has no other home than an album such as Let it Bleed, signalling the last cry and death of the 60's.

There is slight differences in the sounds of the songs recorded at Stargroves recorded at Olympic recorded in Alabama and recorded in France.

LIB and SF have their own cohesive sound and they do not sound the same. SF is much dirtier.

In regard to the time, though, songwriting wise, with what was done for LIB and SF plus what leftovers making it onto EOMS, could make quite a playlist titled AUTMATIC CHANGER, ha ha, and could be peak Rolling Stones ala the early Mick Taylor years.

Re: Hackney Diamonds - Album Talk
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: February 9, 2025 10:15

Tell Me Straight. Beautiful. It's not long enough, which is fantastic.

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