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24FPS
An interesting set list with a few oldies covers.
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PaintMonkeyManBlack
where can i find a confirmed setlist of this mysterious show
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dcba
I wouldnt expect too much from this one...
The playing must have been very very rough : see the kind of musical "quality" they delivered a few days later in Philie.
Therefore I doubt Jagger hired a 16-tracks remote unit to record it. It must exist in the Vault as a board cassette with a label that says "not to be circulated".
Maybe. But things sound better for the Stones with the passage of time. Especially when it has the original Wyman/Watts rhythm section, and a setlist some variance to the norm. El Mocambo sounds great. I'm sure a live album from '72 would sound good. I guess what I'm trying to say that those 'old' recordings sound much better when compared to what they sound like now.
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I wouldnt expect too much from this one...
The playing must have been very very rough : see the kind of musical "quality" they delivered a few days later in Philie.
Therefore I doubt Jagger hired a 16-tracks remote unit to record it. It must exist in the Vault as a board cassette with a label that says "not to be circulated".
Maybe. But things sound better for the Stones with the passage of time. Especially when it has the original Wyman/Watts rhythm section, and a setlist some variance to the norm. El Mocambo sounds great. I'm sure a live album from '72 would sound good. I guess what I'm trying to say that those 'old' recordings sound much better when compared to what they sound like now.
It's a different band today, more relaxed and swinging than rocking and rolling. But I also prefer the "original" rhythm section and Keith's more forward playing in the GOT.
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I wouldnt expect too much from this one...
The playing must have been very very rough : see the kind of musical "quality" they delivered a few days later in Philie.
Therefore I doubt Jagger hired a 16-tracks remote unit to record it. It must exist in the Vault as a board cassette with a label that says "not to be circulated".
Maybe. But things sound better for the Stones with the passage of time. Especially when it has the original Wyman/Watts rhythm section, and a setlist some variance to the norm. El Mocambo sounds great. I'm sure a live album from '72 would sound good. I guess what I'm trying to say that those 'old' recordings sound much better when compared to what they sound like now.
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MisterO
Where was this show performed? I'm guessing the Capitol Theater in New Jersey or the Palladium in Manhattan?
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24FPS
How come this gig is never mentioned for the Vault? An El Mocambo type recording in a small club prior to their '81 USA tour? Surely they recorded it. Morgan Cove was after El Mocambo. They must have learned their lesson from that one and recorded it right. An interesting set list with a few oldies covers. What's not to like? Does anyone know if they video recorded it?
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PaintMonkeyManBlack
where can i find a confirmed setlist of this mysterious show
According to SetlistFM, this is what they played:
Everybody Needs Somebody to Love
Mona
Under My Thumb
When the Whip Comes Down
Miss You
Shattered
Neighbours
Let It Bleed
I Just Want to Make Love to You
She's So Cold
All Down the Line
Hang Fire
Honky Tonk Women
Start Me Up
Sympathy for the Devil
Brown Sugar
Jumpin' Jack Flash
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where can i find a confirmed setlist of this mysterious show
According to SetlistFM, this is what they played:
Everybody Needs Somebody to Love
Mona
Under My Thumb
When the Whip Comes Down
Miss You
Shattered
Neighbours
Let It Bleed
I Just Want to Make Love to You
She's So Cold
All Down the Line
Hang Fire
Honky Tonk Women
Start Me Up
Sympathy for the Devil
Brown Sugar
Jumpin' Jack Flash
It would be interesting to hear how "Sympathy" sounded like, since they didn't played much at the time (1978 and 1981/82 tours). Probably it was still the 'road version' dominated by guitar fiesta. Also it would be interesting how they approached "Want to Make Love to You". Still hints of their 1964 version or close to Muddy original. They loved fast tempos at the time, so the 'original' first album version might have worked fine.
The opening with an old show opener "Everybody Needs Somebody To Love" arises question if it was just one night idea, or was it also considered as a show opener for the tour and tested here. They chose another traditional show opener ("Thumb") instead.
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I heard a lot of rumours that this setlist is not correct and they played 23 songs.
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PaintMonkeyManBlack
I heard a lot of rumours that this setlist is not correct and they played 23 songs.
Have they played 23 songs in a club ever? They usually cut down the number of songs when they do clubs.
When that is said, I'm a bit skeptical to ENSTL, Mona and SFTD myself.
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I heard a lot of rumours that this setlist is not correct and they played 23 songs.
Have they played 23 songs in a club ever? They usually cut down the number of songs when they do clubs.
When that is said, I'm a bit skeptical to ENSTL, Mona and SFTD myself.
Why Mona? They actually played it at JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, Sept. 26 - a mere 12 days later. There's plenty of taped evidence!
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I heard a lot of rumours that this setlist is not correct and they played 23 songs.
Have they played 23 songs in a club ever? They usually cut down the number of songs when they do clubs.
When that is said, I'm a bit skeptical to ENSTL, Mona and SFTD myself.
Why Mona? They actually played it at JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, Sept. 26 - a mere 12 days later. There's plenty of taped evidence!
I know, but with that rendition in mind, would they really choose Mona as song #2 in any setlist?
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PaintMonkeyManBlack
I heard a lot of rumours that this setlist is not correct and they played 23 songs.
Have they played 23 songs in a club ever? They usually cut down the number of songs when they do clubs.
When that is said, I'm a bit skeptical to ENSTL, Mona and SFTD myself.
Why Mona? They actually played it at JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, Sept. 26 - a mere 12 days later. There's plenty of taped evidence!
I know, but with that rendition in mind, would they really choose Mona as song #2 in any setlist?
Imo Mona is a perfect tune for a club show - for a giant stage not so much. So maybe it was the other way round - Mona sounded great at Sir Morgan's Cove, and that's why they tried it on the giant stage (and failed miserably)...
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I heard a lot of rumours that this setlist is not correct and they played 23 songs.
Have they played 23 songs in a club ever? They usually cut down the number of songs when they do clubs.
When that is said, I'm a bit skeptical to ENSTL, Mona and SFTD myself.
Why Mona? They actually played it at JFK Stadium, Philadelphia, Sept. 26 - a mere 12 days later. There's plenty of taped evidence!
I know, but with that rendition in mind, would they really choose Mona as song #2 in any setlist?
Imo Mona is a perfect tune for a club show - for a giant stage not so much. So maybe it was the other way round - Mona sounded great at Sir Morgan's Cove, and that's why they tried it on the giant stage (and failed miserably)...
Maybe. Would be interesting hearing from someone who attended the gig how it was, though.