Judging from all the Keith fluffs in Fall 2017 they didn't use a ghost backup then.

Yes well it’s not that hard to follow Keiths moves and of course it would have to sound like Keith of 2022. That said, no proof just speculating.

What is it that you don´t understand, mr Redhotcarpet? Is there someone hiding and playing Keith´s parts? Follow his moves? How? From where? Jesus. You dont trust your own eyes and ears? You are certainly not a musician, I can tell you that. Spam de luxe, my friend.

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What is it that you don´t understand, mr Redhotcarpet? Is there someone hiding and playing Keith´s parts? Follow his moves? How? From where? Jesus. You dont trust your own eyes and ears? You are certainly not a musician, I can tell you that. Spam de luxe, my friend.

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I would say that that clip shows exactly how Keith IS playing what you hear.
Also, I find it hard to believe that someone under the stage can follow what the band is doing.
Also, both Keith's and Ronnie's guitar parts aren't that hard to play in the first place, plus, Keith's style is too idiosyncratic to be copied succesfully by other players.
Finally, there is a reason why they have so many extras onstage (where many other bands would probably use backing tapes for choruses and other, non-standard instrumental parts): because -in their own words- they would have to work so much harder to play the songs without them.
Now, this doesn't mean that they don't overdub stuff on concert releases, of course. One strange instance is Under My Thumb on The Biggest Bang dvd: you hear the guitar motiff when Keith isn't playing his cream coloured strat at all and it certainly doesn't sound like Keith (or maybe it's a keyboard or some loop kind of thingy?). And what to think of 'Ronnie's' guitar part on Can't You Hear Me Knocking off the Live Licks cd?



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this has to be the greatest under stage guitarist of all time





now i assume there are some fairly skilled guitarists here

can any of you play along perfectly to what keith is playing here?



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can any of you play along perfectly to what keith is playing here?

No, and it's not necessary. Let Keith play Keith.

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can any of you play along perfectly to what keith is playing here?

No, and it's not necessary. Let Keith play Keith.

that's right

well said

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can any of you play along perfectly to what keith is playing here?

No, and it's not necessary. Let Keith play Keith.

that's right

well said

Thank You.

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What is it that you don´t understand, mr Redhotcarpet? Is there someone hiding and playing Keith´s parts? Follow his moves? How? From where? Jesus. You dont trust your own eyes and ears? You are certainly not a musician, I can tell you that. Spam de luxe, my friend.

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I would say that that clip shows exactly how Keith IS playing what you hear.
Also, I find it hard to believe that someone under the stage can follow what the band is doing.
Also, both Keith's and Ronnie's guitar parts aren't that hard to play in the first place, plus, Keith's style is too idiosyncratic to be copied succesfully by other players.
Finally, there is a reason why they have so many extras onstage (where many other bands would probably use backing tapes for choruses and other, non-standard instrumental parts): because -in their own words- they would have to work so much harder to play the songs without them.
Now, this doesn't mean that they don't overdub stuff on concert releases, of course. One strange instance is Under My Thumb on The Biggest Bang dvd: you hear the guitar motiff when Keith isn't playing his cream coloured strat at all and it certainly doesn't sound like Keith (or maybe it's a keyboard or some loop kind of thingy?). And what to think of 'Ronnie's' guitar part on Can't You Hear Me Knocking off the Live Licks cd?

I mentioned the Under My Thumb vid and the extra guitar way back when. Figure it must have been Blondie playing on the main stage.

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What is it that you don´t understand, mr Redhotcarpet? Is there someone hiding and playing Keith´s parts? Follow his moves? How? From where? Jesus. You dont trust your own eyes and ears? You are certainly not a musician, I can tell you that. Spam de luxe, my friend.

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I would say that that clip shows exactly how Keith IS playing what you hear.
Also, I find it hard to believe that someone under the stage can follow what the band is doing.
Also, both Keith's and Ronnie's guitar parts aren't that hard to play in the first place, plus, Keith's style is too idiosyncratic to be copied succesfully by other players.
Finally, there is a reason why they have so many extras onstage (where many other bands would probably use backing tapes for choruses and other, non-standard instrumental parts): because -in their own words- they would have to work so much harder to play the songs without them.
Now, this doesn't mean that they don't overdub stuff on concert releases, of course. One strange instance is Under My Thumb on The Biggest Bang dvd: you hear the guitar motiff when Keith isn't playing his cream coloured strat at all and it certainly doesn't sound like Keith (or maybe it's a keyboard or some loop kind of thingy?). And what to think of 'Ronnie's' guitar part on Can't You Hear Me Knocking off the Live Licks cd?

I mentioned the Under My Thumb vid and the extra guitar way back when. Figure it must have been Blondie playing on the main stage.

Right. It's all been discussed here a couple of years ago.

What's the problem of playing with three guitars when it comes to the Stones?

Jagger was a first. And not bad at all.

Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

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Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

lol...jay jay french is a turd....1st off he sucks...2nd a great story teller...loser...there are no phantom guitar players...what a brain dead jealous asswipe.

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Is that a fact ?

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Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

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Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better then nothing.



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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

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Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

So you agree that writing about music is useless ?

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

So you agree that writing about music is useless ?

Absolutely not, otherwise I wouldn't be spending my time here sharing various thoughts and opinions with other like minded people.
If you think it's useless, why would you waste your time here?

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

So you agree that writing about music is useless ?

Absolutely not, otherwise I wouldn't be spending my time here sharing various thoughts and opinions with other like minded people.
If you think it's useless, why would you waste your time here?

Because we read each others posts.

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

So you agree that writing about music is useless ?

Absolutely not, otherwise I wouldn't be spending my time here sharing various thoughts and opinions with other like minded people.
If you think it's useless, why would you waste your time here?

Because we read each others posts.

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

So you agree that writing about music is useless ?

Absolutely not, otherwise I wouldn't be spending my time here sharing various thoughts and opinions with other like minded people.
If you think it's useless, why would you waste your time here?

Because we read each others posts.

All You Need is Love.

I wonder what a monkey would think about that.

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Jagger's guitar playing is average at best.

Is that a fact ?

Just an opinion - like a majority of posts on this forum.

Then use your ears.

My ears tell me his playing is average at best.

That's better than nothing.

True, but that's not saying much.

So you agree that writing about music is useless ?

Absolutely not, otherwise I wouldn't be spending my time here sharing various thoughts and opinions with other like minded people.
If you think it's useless, why would you waste your time here?

Because we read each others posts.

All You Need is Love.

I wonder what a monkey would think about that.

will you two get a room already

...You mean like a padded one ???



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What is it that you don´t understand, mr Redhotcarpet? Is there someone hiding and playing Keith´s parts? Follow his moves? How? From where? Jesus. You dont trust your own eyes and ears? You are certainly not a musician, I can tell you that. Spam de luxe, my friend.

[www.youtube.com]

I would say that that clip shows exactly how Keith IS playing what you hear.
Also, I find it hard to believe that someone under the stage can follow what the band is doing.
Also, both Keith's and Ronnie's guitar parts aren't that hard to play in the first place, plus, Keith's style is too idiosyncratic to be copied succesfully by other players.
Finally, there is a reason why they have so many extras onstage (where many other bands would probably use backing tapes for choruses and other, non-standard instrumental parts): because -in their own words- they would have to work so much harder to play the songs without them.
Now, this doesn't mean that they don't overdub stuff on concert releases, of course. One strange instance is Under My Thumb on The Biggest Bang dvd: you hear the guitar motiff when Keith isn't playing his cream coloured strat at all and it certainly doesn't sound like Keith (or maybe it's a keyboard or some loop kind of thingy?). And what to think of 'Ronnie's' guitar part on Can't You Hear Me Knocking off the Live Licks cd?

I mentioned the Under My Thumb vid and the extra guitar way back when. Figure it must have been Blondie playing on the main stage.

Pierre and Dave Rouze. They are credited on the Biggest Bang dvd. Overdubs.

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All Keith. He "hammers on" part of the JJF riff and doesn't need to pick it with the right hand.