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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
All the same? Rap with a Satanic element clearly isn’t the norm. You don’t have to like rap (and I don’t, for the most part), but they were different. 666 stood out in 90s rap.
P.S. Keith doesn’t care what you think either.
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
All the same? Rap with a Satanic element clearly isn’t the norm. You don’t have to like rap (and I don’t, for the most part), but they were different. 666 stood out in 90s rap.
P.S. Keith doesn’t care what you think either.
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
All the same? Rap with a Satanic element clearly isn’t the norm. You don’t have to like rap (and I don’t, for the most part), but they were different. 666 stood out in 90s rap.
P.S. Keith doesn’t care what you think either.
i don't care for rap at all and generally agree with keith on the matter (about heavy metal too)
but it's a genre that's been around for half a century at this point
generations have grown up with it being there music
clearly the majority thinks it has artistic merit
and about it all sounding the same i mean i hear young people say the same thing about the blues and rock music and think there nuts
plus is it perhaps not in poor taste to come to a thread honoring a woman who just died way to young and attack her art?
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it's a genre that's been around for half a century at this point
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it's a genre that's been around for half a century at this point
It must be said that the genre evolved quite a lot over the years :
In the 70's the pioneers like Grand Master Flash were an offspring of disco : strong bass lines and tunes you could dance to.
Today rap music is just bad pop with robotic beats. Hence its massive success : it's just pop with bad melodies and abysal lyrics.
In between these two trends the 80's gave us REAL rap with the unsurpassed masters of the genre : Public Enemy.
I still get a big kick out of "She Watch Channel Zero".
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it's a genre that's been around for half a century at this point
It must be said that the genre evolved quite a lot over the years :
In the 70's the pioneers like Grand Master Flash were an offspring of disco : strong bass lines and tunes you could dance to.
Today rap music is just bad pop with robotic beats. Hence its massive success : it's just pop with bad melodies and abysal lyrics.
In between these two trends the 80's gave us REAL rap with the unsurpassed masters of the genre : Public Enemy.
I still get a big kick out of "She Watch Channel Zero".
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People that say all rap sounds the same haven't really listened. But they sure love to talk
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People that say all rap sounds the same haven't really listened. But they sure love to talk
[www.youtube.com]
Of course that's not rap, that's hip hop, which I really like a lot of hip hop, including the Roots. The songs starts out like Anybody Seen My Baby. (Which had kind of a laughable rap in it that they didn't even bother to try and duplicate on stage.)
And yes I have listened, especially to Kendrick Lamar, who was supposed to be all that. I just thought he sounded like another rapper I vaguely remember.
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[The songs starts out like Anybody Seen My Baby. (Which had kind of a laughable rap in it that they didn't even bother to try and duplicate on stage.)
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
All the same? Rap with a Satanic element clearly isn’t the norm. You don’t have to like rap (and I don’t, for the most part), but they were different. 666 stood out in 90s rap.
P.S. Keith doesn’t care what you think either.
i don't care for rap at all and generally agree with keith on the matter (about heavy metal too)
but it's a genre that's been around for half a century at this point
generations have grown up with it being there music
clearly the majority thinks it has artistic merit
and about it all sounding the same i mean i hear young people say the same thing about the blues and rock music and think there nuts
plus is it perhaps not in poor taste to come to a thread honoring a woman who just died way to young and attack her art?
Had no idea 'Gangsta Boo' was a female. Of course that's not supposed to matter anymore. They can say rock sounds all the same but there's a big difference between A Day In The Life and Jailhouse Rock. I didn't know this thread was honoring Gangsta Boo. Then she must have accomplished something worth honoring. I assume.
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
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'Groundbreaking rap artists'. Huh? Rap all sounds the same to me. (And Keith too). What new ground are they breaking? The subject matter is always the same. The sound is basically Mary Had A Little Lamb (according to Keith, and I agree). I guess they have to be called artists because they're not musicians. I can't believe it's still around. It seemed like it peaked with Grandmaster Flash in the early 80s. Even rock died eventually, and it was a hell of a lot better than rap.
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I think the main problem with rap is it doesn't "cut it" live.
The artists have to rely on pre-recorded tapes so making a rap song come alive onstage is impossible. It's just the studio version with live vocals.
As much as I respect Public Enemy the few live tapes of them I heard were pitiful. Interestingly the sole P.E. song that kicked ass in a live setting was "Bring The Noise" when they played it with the metal band Anthrax.
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[The songs starts out like Anybody Seen My Baby. (Which had kind of a laughable rap in it that they didn't even bother to try and duplicate on stage.)
I recall Mick and Bernard doing that rap part on stage. And it sounded good and fitting.
- Doxa
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[The songs starts out like Anybody Seen My Baby. (Which had kind of a laughable rap in it that they didn't even bother to try and duplicate on stage.)
I recall Mick and Bernard doing that rap part on stage. And it sounded good and fitting.
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Yes, it worked well. And didn't 'Fingerprint File' way back in '75 have a sort of rap bit in it?
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[The songs starts out like Anybody Seen My Baby. (Which had kind of a laughable rap in it that they didn't even bother to try and duplicate on stage.)
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Hiphop live shows are an experience, a party if you will.
It shouldn’t be judged like other music. Got nothing to do with live instrumentation. Although some acts perform with a band, the essence is a turntable (computer) and a microphone.
I witnessed some fantastic shows over the years: Public Enemy, Kendrick Lamar, Run the Jewels, Little Simz, De la soul, …
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Hiphop live shows are an experience, a party if you will.
It shouldn’t be judged like other music. Got nothing to do with live instrumentation. Although some acts perform with a band, the essence is a turntable (computer) and a microphone.
I witnessed some fantastic shows over the years: Public Enemy, Kendrick Lamar, Run the Jewels, Little Simz, De la soul, …
Ye West had a wild show where he was alone on a stage suspended above the crowd. Just him on it & it moved around. I don't know if he had a band or DJ on a more stable stage.
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Had no idea 'Gangsta Boo' was a female. Of course that's not supposed to matter anymore. They can say rock sounds all the same but there's a big difference between A Day In The Life and Jailhouse Rock. I didn't know this thread was honoring Gangsta Boo. Then she must have accomplished something worth honoring. I assume.