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I agree and will also add that the Stones showed a different side in the depth and maturity of the songwriting between the Twins and thusly evolved and stayed relevant as they were being cast off as dinosaurs and also coming off the fill in the blank for the Black and Blue album . This is showing off the Twins smarts in there writing abilities !Quote
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Such an upheaval of time for The Rolling Stones while redefining themselves ala SOME GIRLS and EMOTIONAL RESCUE.
I know ER is skewed here but it really is a great album. Considering what they'd been through in 1977-78 it's really something they were able to create what they did for ER yet alone what was left off for what became TATTOO YOU.
The personal aspect of the band gets lost because of Miss You and Emotional Rescue, no tour for the second batch, and then a complete change from 1978 with 1981.
Just as they are now, with Charlie dying, they're people just like the rest of us. What Keith went through, and in result put the band through, in 1977 onward... where SG was a very focused Oh punk? kind of album, ER seemed to be more Let's expand.
The issue fan wise being the songs didn't reach like they did on SG. That's life. TY benefitted from it.
Pardon me for going off on a tangent. If Some Girls is the Stones’ ‘punk’ album, Emotional Rescue feels like their ‘New Wave’ album. The ambience of the soundscape they created on ER reminds me of some of The Police’s contemporary releases for example, Regatta de Blanc (out on 2 October, 1979) in particular. From punk to New Wave — seems to me a natural progression in parallel with the music scene of the day.
Your tangent is well put.
Although they've generally been beind the times regarding what was big, they nailed it with Miss You and Emotional Rescue as singles.
It seems that the esoteric romanticism of the era has been lost on a lot of people because of Miss You (or how great the LP was). What they did with SG and ER is remarkable, actually. The living era of that duration does not translate to now or a decade ago so it's viewed as weak.
ER is not like SG but it has some of the same energy (albeit a leftover or two). It, like UNDERCOVER, the true studio band recording follow up, is a great album for its time. The songs hold up etc.
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A tangent further. Musically speaking, of the songs collected on Some Girls, those classified as ‘punk’ songs are When The Whip Comes Down, Lies, Respectable and Shattered — just four. Others are disco (Miss You), Motown cover (Just My Imagination), blues rock (Some Girls), country (Far Away Eyes and Beast Of Burden) and archetypal Stones signature rock ‘n’ roll (Before They Make Me Run) — quite a variety there. And especially considering that Miss You was chosen as the lead single, I sometimes wonder why SG is generally regarded as the Stones’ ‘punk’ album. Some of the music was certainly inspired by punk, but the end product is more than that.
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However, I agree with SG being a much more varied album musically than many give it credit for.
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However, I agree with SG being a much more varied album musically than many give it credit for.
Well, Mick himself promoted the album by claiming it has more variance than their albums have had for ages. He said something to the effect that it is a "delicious cocktail, just like our old albums". But what the hell he meant by that, or what was the reference, I don't know... (well, Mick's talks at the time were pretty loose as far as facts go...)
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Of course, one could be obnoxious and argue that there’s nothing less ‘punk’ than a group of thirty-something jetsetters, trying to join-in on a movement that shouldn’t have concerned them. Then again, the dinosaur-tag must’ve grated on Mick’s nerves, prompting him to follow the day’s trends and hope to stay relevant. It evidently worked, as Some Girls sold bucket-loads in the States.
Big time agree . Along with the notion of wanting to be like Keith , which on the one hand they were spitting hatred on the Stones while at the same time wanting to be Keith . I have to think this was rip roaring funny to Mick and Keith .Quote
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Of course it's not a "Punk" album
But as Mathijs said " the punk movement reenergized the Stones, it kicked them up the arse and slapped them in the face."
Being mocked as dinosaurs by punk rockers, [half of whom secretly wanted to be Keith ] must have half irked and half amused ... prompting a bit of
" ..we'll show you who can play the most rough and ready, spiky Rock n Roll...we were doing it when you were in short trousers ! "
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TheGreekBig time agree . Along with the notion of wanting to be like Keith , which on the one hand they were spitting hatred on the Stones while at the same time wanting to be Keith . I have to think this was rip roaring funny to Mick and Keith .Quote
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Of course it's not a "Punk" album
But as Mathijs said " the punk movement reenergized the Stones, it kicked them up the arse and slapped them in the face."
Being mocked as dinosaurs by punk rockers, [half of whom secretly wanted to be Keith ] must have half irked and half amused ... prompting a bit of
" ..we'll show you who can play the most rough and ready, spiky Rock n Roll...we were doing it when you were in short trousers ! "