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Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: bv ()
Date: April 12, 2023 18:46

Never change a winning team.
Matt Clifford is part of the band.
I don't understand why there is a need to complain about the band at all,
at a time where we should be happy to have them on tour still.

Bjornulf

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: TumblinDice76 ()
Date: April 12, 2023 18:53

Life's Just a Coctail Party! Don't sweat the small stuff and enjoy the ride!

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Topi ()
Date: April 12, 2023 19:00

Get Paul McCartney to do it.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: caschimann ()
Date: April 12, 2023 19:08

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bv
Never change a winning team.
Matt Clifford is part of the band.
I don't understand why there is a need to complain about the band at all,
at a time where we should be happy to have them on tour still.

I don't complain about the band.
I don't complain about Matt and his keyboard, horn etc. playing.
And his important role in the chemistry of the band.
But I am convinced that he shouldn't do the announcement.
He is simply not the right one for it.
He is a shy, layed back person and when he starts to belt this 6 words it just does sound awful.
IN MY EARS.
But saying this year after year it seems I am the only one who has this problem.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: April 12, 2023 19:55

Matt kicks butts on the introduction! He says it with balls! Love it! It doesn’t get anymore exciting when I hear it!

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: April 12, 2023 20:23

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caschimann
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bv
Never change a winning team.
Matt Clifford is part of the band.
I don't understand why there is a need to complain about the band at all,
at a time where we should be happy to have them on tour still.

I don't complain about the band.
I don't complain about Matt and his keyboard, horn etc. playing.
And his important role in the chemistry of the band.
But I am convinced that he shouldn't do the announcement.
He is simply not the right one for it.
He is a shy, layed back person and when he starts to belt this 6 words it just does sound awful.
IN MY EARS.
But saying this year after year it seems I am the only one who has this problem.

I agree with you.
It's become a boring and repetitive way to intro the band.
Someone else should mix it up to generate more excitement...
remember when they were billed as the "greatest rock n roll band in the world..."

I'll do it.
"Hey DEEEEETROIT! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, welcome to the stage, the GREATEST ROCK N' ROLL BAND IN THE WORLD, the ROLLING STONES!"

Too bad the woman that won the contest to intro them in INDY froze up. We will never know...

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Date: April 12, 2023 20:56

Matt's intro sure beats the ones Roseanne or Whoopie have given in the past.

We should all be happy there is still an introduction to the World's Greatest Rock N Roll band.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: SomeTorontoGirl ()
Date: April 12, 2023 21:00

Maybe Keith should just walk out and say ‘We’re here, you bastards!” grinning smiley


Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: April 12, 2023 21:17

I sort of like the idea of Mick coming out and announcing, "Ladies & Gentlemen, MATT CLIFFORD AND HIS ROLLING STONES!"

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Date: April 12, 2023 21:22

I like this idea as well and he should tell people to stay of the stage or you'll get bashed in the head with a guitar.


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SomeTorontoGirl
Maybe Keith should just walk out and say ‘We’re here, you bastards!” grinning smiley

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 12, 2023 21:51

I have thought that the simple, humble and funnily formal introduction, "Ladies and Gentlemen.. The Rolling Stones!" is as spot on and cool as it can be.

Actually that of introducing them now as 'the greatest rock and roll band in the world" would just sound so corny and cheap. No class. When Cutler uttered those famous words, that was a controversial, ballsy and arrogant claim, since there was also a band called The Beatles still around. It had a point and like the band setting themselves a challenge they knew they were going to meet. Now it just a boring cliche, just like those stupid 'Kings of This or That' The Americans seem to love. The Stones, classy English Gentlemen, do not need to call themselves with that. Let the others do...

- Doxa



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Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:01

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Doxa
...Now it just a boring cliche, just like those stupid 'Kings of This or That' The Americans seem to love. The Stones, classy English Gentlemen, do not need to call themselves with that. Let the others do...

- Doxa

Being knighted and being called sir (not American things) are acts of humbleness, right? C'mon now, stop with the trash talk. No need to slam entire countries/continents.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:13

I liked Mick's 1978 introduction.....

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: bv ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:14

After 61 years of highly successful performances by The Rolling Stones, some fans do still think they know better how to do the live acts...

Bjornulf

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:39

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NashvilleBlues
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Doxa
...Now it just a boring cliche, just like those stupid 'Kings of This or That' The Americans seem to love. The Stones, classy English Gentlemen, do not need to call themselves with that. Let the others do...

- Doxa

Being knighted and being called sir (not American things) are acts of humbleness, right? C'mon now, stop with the trash talk. No need to slam entire countries/continents.

Those funny English knighthoods and Sirs are official recognitions and titles. Like someone is titled as Doctor of Philosophy or the President of the United States. One can wonder anyway how much humbliness has relevance for having any of those titles or not (or if any of those institutions have a point). But the point is that those titles are not based on someone liking someone so much that he or she decides to call someone, say, King of Pop or King of Rock (by the way, why there needs to be so many Kings in the country that once time ago was such wise that get rid of the whole Royal institution) or The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World despite there might be even a huge crowd thinking alike. So probably if the Stones would be so title-eager and take the official route, they could call themselves, say, Rock and Hall of Famers... (hahaha).

- Doxa

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:42

We need some real news so we stop going OT into a ditch on this thread. Just patiently waiting while I book other shows.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:54

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daspyknows
We need some real news so we stop going OT into a ditch on this thread. Just patiently waiting while I book other shows.

"I'm just trying to do my jig-saw puzzle"
Jagger Richards.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: April 12, 2023 22:58

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Doxa
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NashvilleBlues
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Doxa
...Now it just a boring cliche, just like those stupid 'Kings of This or That' The Americans seem to love. The Stones, classy English Gentlemen, do not need to call themselves with that. Let the others do...

- Doxa

Being knighted and being called sir (not American things) are acts of humbleness, right? C'mon now, stop with the trash talk. No need to slam entire countries/continents.

Those funny English knighthoods and Sirs are official recognitions and titles. Like someone is titled as Doctor of Philosophy or the President of the United States. One can wonder anyway how much humbliness has relevance for having any of those titles or not (or if any of those institutions have a point). But the point is that those titles are not based on someone liking someone so much that he or she decides to call someone, say, King of Pop or King of Rock (by the way, why there needs to be so many Kings in the country that once time ago was such wise that get rid of the whole Royal institution) or The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World despite there might be even a huge crowd thinking alike. So probably if the Stones would be so title-eager and take the official route, they could call themselves, say, Rock and Hall of Famers... (hahaha).

- Doxa

Being knighted and being liked kind of go hand-in-hand, right? Why would they knight someone who isn't liked by many?

Accepting a knighthood is not humble. My main point: Don't trash a whole country. Be classy, like you say your countrymen are.



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Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: April 12, 2023 23:04

While stereotypes suck, we Americans are drowning in titles. I think it's a
spillover from the insane consumerism/commercialism that runs rampant in our "culture", and it deserves a mention for sure.
How about the Boss? Of what?

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: LovingCupola ()
Date: April 12, 2023 23:05

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SomeTorontoGirl
Maybe Keith should just walk out and say ‘We’re here, you bastards!” grinning smiley

grinning smiley smileys with beer

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: April 12, 2023 23:10

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SomeTorontoGirl
Maybe Keith should just walk out and say ‘We’re here, you bastards!” grinning smiley

this.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: April 12, 2023 23:31

Hopefully they will surprise us

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: April 13, 2023 00:25

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georgemcdonnell314
Matt's intro sure beats the ones Roseanne or Whoopie have given in the past.

We should all be happy there is still an introduction to the World's Greatest Rock N Roll band.


Rosanne who?

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 13, 2023 01:19

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NashvilleBlues
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Doxa
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NashvilleBlues
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Doxa
...Now it just a boring cliche, just like those stupid 'Kings of This or That' The Americans seem to love. The Stones, classy English Gentlemen, do not need to call themselves with that. Let the others do...

- Doxa

Being knighted and being called sir (not American things) are acts of humbleness, right? C'mon now, stop with the trash talk. No need to slam entire countries/continents.

Those funny English knighthoods and Sirs are official recognitions and titles. Like someone is titled as Doctor of Philosophy or the President of the United States. One can wonder anyway how much humbliness has relevance for having any of those titles or not (or if any of those institutions have a point). But the point is that those titles are not based on someone liking someone so much that he or she decides to call someone, say, King of Pop or King of Rock (by the way, why there needs to be so many Kings in the country that once time ago was such wise that get rid of the whole Royal institution) or The Greatest Rock and Roll Band in the World despite there might be even a huge crowd thinking alike. So probably if the Stones would be so title-eager and take the official route, they could call themselves, say, Rock and Hall of Famers... (hahaha).

- Doxa

Being knighted and being liked kind of go hand-in-hand, right? Why would they knight someone who isn't liked by many?

Accepting a knighthood is not humble. My main point: Don't trash a whole country. Be classy, like you say your countrymen are.

Strange claims. If I understand right the British give those titles (knighthoods) as awards for achieving something that is valuable to British life. It used to be war-related, but for ages it has been also contributions in diplomacy, education, science, arts, sports, charity of whatever. So there are Sirs and Dames from different areas of life. And no, it is not a recognitions of 'being liked' or 'popular', but that of achieving something noteworthy in one's field. Probably for pop stars, by definition, a'la Sir Paul and Sir Mick, being relatively popular/liked belongs to the picture for having achieved something. But I don't know what, say, in the case of scientists means being 'liked' or 'popular'.

That of being 'not humble' if one receives such a honour from one's country? So, for example, Dr. Alexander Fleming, who discovered penicillin and made many other biomedical discoveries is somehow 'non-humble' for accepting his knighthood for his contributions? I guess that is not that different than accepting a Nobel Prize for one's achievements.

I guess the long historical package and certain semantical connotations might make these Knights sound even comical for non-British ears (and for some of them as well, especially if one has Keef-like anti-establishment sentiments), but basically similar honours and recognitions by different titles/medals etc. are given all over the world, about in each country I guess. You know, doing something worthy for your country or something. Isn't there in USA such as things like Presidential Medal of Freedom, National Medal of Arts, etc.? But the humble people over there do not accept such awards?

Trashing a whole country? With that casual, innocent remark stating pretty much the obvious? Oh, c'mon. You cannot be that serious or sensitive, can you? But seemingly you have no problems in bashing other country's institutions. And citizen too. Besides, if you didn't see the irony in me calling The Stones "classy English Gentlemen", you probably missed a lot in my not-that-serious post. A bit of humor makes life easier, right?

Lastly, I am from Finland. Nothing to do with Britain or with its ancient (and sorry Brittons here, a bit dated-sounding) institutions.

Now this is tour-talk! grinning smiley


Sorry BV, I stop this OT here...

- Doxa



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 2023-04-13 01:36 by Doxa.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: snoopy2 ()
Date: April 13, 2023 02:47

Chuck Leavell playing here May 27 (Shoals Theater, Florence).. Caught his show here last time and he rocks a small venue, and easier to meet and chat with.. Reach out if you might show!

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: TumblinDice76 ()
Date: April 13, 2023 03:58

Damn Snoopy,The Shoals Theater, Enjoy! Patterson Hood, Mike Cooley, and Jason Isbell released really good double live cd recorded at the Shoals Theater.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: 24FPS ()
Date: April 13, 2023 05:30

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bv
After 61 years of highly successful performances by The Rolling Stones, some fans do still think they know better how to do the live acts...

I have more of a 'why bother' mindset. Their current sidemen can't measure up to the Stones legends. Most of them have passed on. Bill ain't coming back. You get what you get. If you still have an itch see what is presently presented as the Rolling Stones, have at it. For about thirty years they have settled into what it is from here on out. They obviously don't care what we think.

Pine for the glory days? There's plenty of DVDs and CDs. As far as I'm concerned the El Mocambo release is their best since Blue and Lonesome. The live act, whether it makes fans grit their teeth or not, is a Nostalgia Act. All the hits with maybe a rare bone. I'm happy when they're out there, but there's no urge to see them. Unless Paul and Ringo become their new rhythm section. Of course no one could afford those tickets.

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: April 13, 2023 05:33

I didn’t know it was Matt Clifford doing the introduction. I thoroughly enjoy it as well. It’s one of the best things to ever hear!!!

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: April 13, 2023 05:34

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VoodooLounge13
I didn’t know it was Matt Clifford doing the introduction. I thoroughly enjoy it as well. It’s one of the best things to ever hear!!!

He does it with Mick's mic then hands it off to him

Re: Stones tour plans 2023
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: April 13, 2023 12:00

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Dan
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VoodooLounge13
I didn’t know it was Matt Clifford doing the introduction. I thoroughly enjoy it as well. It’s one of the best things to ever hear!!!

He does it with Mick's mic then hands it off to him

I didn't know that either. However unimportant this detail is, I'd say, why not skip that introduction anyway, it's not like the audience are unaware of which band they're going to see. Many bands don't have an introduction, they have some intro tape thingy and simply start to play. In my experience a spoken announcement somehow takes away the excitement a bit.



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