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Topi
I don't see a reason why it shouldn't be. Obviously I have no way of knowing. But it's not likely they're giving any kinds of "arena discounts".
I guess they have basically priced themselves out of arenas.
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exhpart
So I don't think 5 million is set in stone (excuse the pun)
Especially with the sharp rise in energy costs and the high inflation - people would probably no longer pay the high (or even higher) ticket prices.
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Doxa
It looks like that Bruce (and his promoter) have the same problems as the Stones ten years ago.
- Doxa
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Topi
So are you suggesting the Stones' ticket prices are going to go down?
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Topi
So are you suggesting the Stones' ticket prices are going to go down?
Maybe? Prices for Pit-Tickets in Germany were cheaper in 2022 (€526) than in 2017 (€799). But in 2022 there were also these €776 TopSeats - [iorr.org] . VIP1-Ticket in 2022 was €799 instead of €1250 in 2017.
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Hairball
With only 14 shows per each leg, they will surely return - overpriced tickets, and it's easy money.
Not sure when, but evidently they were scouting out venues according to someone who posts here (I think it was sdstonesguy?).
No new album, same old setlists, no matter to them...they will return.
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With only 14 shows per each leg, they will surely return - overpriced tickets, and it's easy money.
Not sure when, but evidently they were scouting out venues according to someone who posts here (I think it was sdstonesguy?).
No new album, same old setlists, no matter to them...they will return.
How can something be 'overpriced' if it sells?
Is there a cheaper, discount version of the Stones I can see elsewhere?
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StonedRambler
Why should they play four shows with 20.000 people per concert if they can have a stadium show and play to the same 80.000 people all at once?
They could be more independent of the weather conditions in an arena and could play shows beyond the summer - e.g. like NYC/NJ in December 2012 or Tokyo in February 1990.
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Why should they play four shows with 20.000 people per concert if they can have a stadium show and play to the same 80.000 people all at once?
They could be more independent of the weather conditions in an arena and could play shows beyond the summer - e.g. like NYC/NJ in December 2012 or Tokyo in February 1990.
And then they would finally play Alaska! From what I understand Keith prefers colder weather anyway..
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Why should they play four shows with 20.000 people per concert if they can have a stadium show and play to the same 80.000 people all at once?
They could be more independent of the weather conditions in an arena and could play shows beyond the summer - e.g. like NYC/NJ in December 2012 or Tokyo in February 1990.
And then they would finally play Alaska! From what I understand Keith prefers colder weather anyway..
I don’t think there is one person in Alaska that likes The Stones. Too bad.
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fareastlansingman
While nothing is set in stone, word is the (very) rough plans are Japan, Australia and New Zealand in Feb, and/or Mar, or Apr 2023. Perhaps 7 shows in Japan; 5 Australia, 2 in NZ.
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Hairball
With only 14 shows per each leg, they will surely return - overpriced tickets, and it's easy money.
Not sure when, but evidently they were scouting out venues according to someone who posts here (I think it was sdstonesguy?).
No new album, same old setlists, no matter to them...they will return.
How can something be 'overpriced' if it sells?
Is there a cheaper, discount version of the Stones I can see elsewhere?
They sold 16.000 less tickets in Munich 2022 compared to 2017. I would say that's quite a huge difference...and they tried in the end with discounted tickets.
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Hairball
With only 14 shows per each leg, they will surely return - overpriced tickets, and it's easy money.
Not sure when, but evidently they were scouting out venues according to someone who posts here (I think it was sdstonesguy?).
No new album, same old setlists, no matter to them...they will return.
How can something be 'overpriced' if it sells?
Is there a cheaper, discount version of the Stones I can see elsewhere?
They sold 16.000 less tickets in Munich 2022 compared to 2017. I would say that's quite a huge difference...and they tried in the end with discounted tickets.
If that's not a huge difference it's certainly a substantial difference. 16,000 less is 16,000 less. That's not closing off a couple of rows.
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Topi
Now I knew Munich wasn't a sellout, but 16,000 unsold seats is a surprisingly high figure. It didn't look that empty.
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AntoineParis
European Tour this summer with final London Shows. That's all. Just that. No more gigs after that.
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European Tour this summer with final London Shows. That's all. Just that. No more gigs after that.
Always the European tour with final London shows. I don't think there will ever be a final tour. Either Mick or Keith would have to pass away. Would Charlie have liked his last concert to have been at a Hard Rock in Miami? We'll never know.
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AntoineParis
European Tour this summer with final London Shows. That's all. Just that. No more gigs after that.
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Topi
Now I knew Munich wasn't a sellout, but 16,000 unsold seats is a surprisingly high figure. It didn't look that empty.
Eventim knows how to make a stadium look like a sellout. When they start to realize that they won't sell all tickets they start to take every second row out of sale.
Then they give tickets away for radio competitions or even to companies that give them to their employees.
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Doxa
Good point. But if we think the Munich concerts financially (I guess it usually makes sense in regard to the Stones doings), the decision to reduce the GA area was not a wise move. In 2017 they grossed 11,8 million dollars, five years later 'only' 10,5 million dollars (going against the overall tendency them making more money this time in Europe than ever). Usually the pattern is: more expensive seats, less cheap GA: more money.
I guess the leading idea by the promoter is to maximise the profits. Probably this time the tickets were overall a bit too expensive generally to make a best possible result, at least if compared to 2017 result with slightly cheaper tickets. Then we have to remember how much the lack of 16000 people affect to the merchandise sales, etc. Setting the 'right' price is fine arts these days, and sometimes it doesn't quite hit the target perfectly.
Of course, another thing is how much the actual demand and interest seeing the band in a same venue decreased in five years (difficult to estimate).
But then again, I think all of them can survive with only 10,5 million bucks earnings...
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AntoineParis
European Tour this summer with final London Shows. That's all. Just that. No more gigs after that.
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Re: RAH gig
Posted by: AntoineParis ()
Date: March 20, 2022 12:21
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
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but they lowered the price for pit by nearly 300 Euros – which may explain at least a part of the diffence
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AntoineParis
European Tour this summer with final London Shows. That's all. Just that. No more gigs after that.
AntoineParis, I have a question. You often behave like a bearer of insider information. I don’t necessarily doubt the authenticity of the information you bring along on this board and I refer to that with interest, for which I thank you.
On the other hand, back in March you posted the following comment regarding a possible additional show between the two Hyde Park dates:Quote
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Re: RAH gig
Posted by: AntoineParis ()
Date: March 20, 2022 12:21
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
Obviously this didn’t materialize. Can you please elaborate on the matter for us?
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AntoineParis
European Tour this summer with final London Shows. That's all. Just that. No more gigs after that.
AntoineParis, I have a question. You often behave like a bearer of insider information. I don’t necessarily doubt the authenticity of the information you bring along on this board and I refer to that with interest, for which I thank you.
On the other hand, back in March you posted the following comment regarding a possible additional show between the two Hyde Park dates:Quote
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Re: RAH gig
Posted by: AntoineParis ()
Date: March 20, 2022 12:21
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
Obviously this didn’t materialize. Can you please elaborate on the matter for us?
I've seen this behaviour from AntoineParis a lot of times during the recent tour as well. Making claims that sound as if he was an insider but a lot of those claims didn't necessarily turn out to be true. I don't know him or if he has any direct connection to the Stones people but my observation is that I would rather take some of his statements with a grain of salt.