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2023 : Europe
2024 : USA
2025 : Australia/ NZ- Japan
2026 : USA
2027 : Europe
As soon as the tour is over I want more concerts and I dream of a show in London in 2030. It doesn't matter how old they are!
Why would they USA, before they do Europe again? Americans are as greedy as the Stones.
It says 2023 Europe. That’s next year. Before USA 2024. Americans may be greedy, but most know that 2023 comes before 2024.
Yes. And then it says someplace else and then USA again and only after that a return to Europe (by which time probably another Stone might be dead). Americans are not only greedy, they also lack an attention span that let's 'em read a post until the end.
Nah. Your response was confusing. Admit that at least.
No. It was not. You just didn't read until the end. The only thing I will admit is, that I misred 2023 as 2022. But if you quote me on that I will deny I ever admitted that. I think I need glasses.
I read it all. The 2022/23 confusion was the issue. No biggie!
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There's a rumour they might be working on a new album.
come on if your gonna make stuff up at least make it believable
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They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
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They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
From an American who has actually been to countries in Africa (Kenya and Tanzania) don't even go there. The reasons for them not hitting the continent are pretty obvious. Money and logistics. For anyone who has actually traveled around the world they realize borders are a problem. They use trucks and each border is a bottleneck.
The money part is also a dealbreaker. When a single Stones ticket is more than the countries median income the financials will not support it especially when the logistics costs are even higher. NO insurance company will underwrite the tour. That is as important and the band's wishes on where to play.
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My prediction
- South America Feb./March 2023
- Asia/Aussie/NZ Oct./Nov. 2023
Or a "Miscellaneous Tour" of 20 gigs in Feb./Aprile 2023 Japan/China/Aussie/NZ/Argentina/Brazil/Chile/Colombia/Mexico
And US/Canada major cities in the fall
Then Europa again in 2024
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End of February 2023 start.
Tokyo x 3
Seoul
Bangkok
Singapore
Australia and New Zealand x 9
That's my prediction for the start of 2023.
(Un)fortunatelly you are wrong.
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They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
From an American who has actually been to countries in Africa (Kenya and Tanzania) don't even go there. The reasons for them not hitting the continent are pretty obvious. Money and logistics. For anyone who has actually traveled around the world they realize borders are a problem. They use trucks and each border is a bottleneck.
The money part is also a dealbreaker. When a single Stones ticket is more than the countries median income the financials will not support it especially when the logistics costs are even higher. NO insurance company will underwrite the tour. That is as important and the band's wishes on where to play.
Other than a desire to not play 'Sun City', and sorry in advance for my lack of knowledge on this but why is South Africa off the table?
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They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
From an American who has actually been to countries in Africa (Kenya and Tanzania) don't even go there. The reasons for them not hitting the continent are pretty obvious. Money and logistics. For anyone who has actually traveled around the world they realize borders are a problem. They use trucks and each border is a bottleneck.
The money part is also a dealbreaker. When a single Stones ticket is more than the countries median income the financials will not support it especially when the logistics costs are even higher. NO insurance company will underwrite the tour. That is as important and the band's wishes on where to play.
Other than a desire to not play 'Sun City', and sorry in advance for my lack of knowledge on this but why is South Africa off the table?
a lot of effort and little money for one show. unless its a free show where someone is willing to pay to make it happen who isn't going to cause bad publicity there is no reason to do it.
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They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
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daspyknows
They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
That'll never happen.
Rock acts don't tour Africa (South Africa aside, and even those are few and far between)
The infrastructure required to put on a tour isn't there. There is no money in it as the continent is too poor and there isn't the fanbase either.
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They are having fun and its all about making money while having fun. Where that is who knows at this point. Pure speculation. It is easier to figure where they will NOT play/tour at this point.
IMHO they will not tour Russia, China, Africa (sorry S. Africa it aint happening), N. Korea, South East Asia, South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Cuba and Caribbean and lots of bouncing between countries outside of the EU because of logistics. This fact would make South America harder to accomplish but if there is more money to be made who knows.
i really think a "mini tour" of africa would really be something
they've played almost everywhere else
i also understand that it's never gonna happen
but just out of curiosity could someone who is more knowledgeable explain the issues with this idea?
is there a fan base large enough outside of south africa and the infrastructure to support a stadium tour?
do we have any african members here who would like a show in there home countries?
and if we do sorry for ahead of time for referring to all of africa like it's just one big country and south africa
From an American who has actually been to countries in Africa (Kenya and Tanzania) don't even go there. The reasons for them not hitting the continent are pretty obvious. Money and logistics. For anyone who has actually traveled around the world they realize borders are a problem. They use trucks and each border is a bottleneck.
The money part is also a dealbreaker. When a single Stones ticket is more than the countries median income the financials will not support it especially when the logistics costs are even higher. NO insurance company will underwrite the tour. That is as important and the band's wishes on where to play.
Other than a desire to not play 'Sun City', and sorry in advance for my lack of knowledge on this but why is South Africa off the table?
a lot of effort and little money for one show. unless its a free show where someone is willing to pay to make it happen who isn't going to cause bad publicity there is no reason to do it.
thank you dapsy i didn't even consider the issue of getting the trucks thru all those borders
and the biggest hurdle of insurance
but if they where gonna but on a cuba style show in africa where would be the best place to put it on?
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My prediction
- South America Feb./March 2023
- Asia/Aussie/NZ Oct./Nov. 2023
Or a "Miscellaneous Tour" of 20 gigs in Feb./Aprile 2023 Japan/China/Aussie/NZ/Argentina/Brazil/Chile/Colombia/Mexico
And US/Canada major cities in the fall
Then Europa again in 2024
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Talk in town is def australia japan
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Talk in town is def australia japan
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Plus the lean touring machine we've seen last month seems to be much dependent on infrastructure provided locally
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Plus the lean touring machine we've seen last month seems to be much dependent on infrastructure provided locally
New stages are expensive. In the ‘89-07 era they’d have 100+ shows to pay them off. Now… they amortized the No Filter stage over what, 50 shows or so, but even that was kind of extraordinary, it would be a very risky proposition to bank on the Stones having 50 shows left in them (I hope they do, of course, but you know what I mean). So the “Sixty” stage was kind of necessarily more of a parts bin sort of thing.
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mailexile67
So in Feb./April next year we'll have this scenario...
Tokyo x 3
Beijng
Shangai
Bangkok
Singapore
Seoul
Sidney
Melbourne
Brisbane
Adelaide
Perth
Auckland
Keep on Rolling!