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bye bye johnny

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Ronnie solo YCAGWYW:

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So strange. Most players as their ears age need more treble and brightness. Ronnie has gone darker in his tone. Technique is what it is, but it’s very hard even for my 46yr old ears to hear any definition out of that murk.

really?

sounded like one of his best this tour to me

oh well must just be a matter of personal taste

but i'm with the critics on the quality of his tumbling dice solo

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What was that ABBA/avatar-joke Mick made?
I've seen a short smartphone clip of it; but couldn't make out the audio -
apart from: "...so tonite you'll have to do with THE REAL THING!!" at the end.

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Nikkei
How can they drop 19th Nervous Breakdown this late into the tour? For me that is a bait-and-switch move.

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deeeskannnie
What was that ABBA/avatar-joke Mick made?
I've seen a short smartphone clip of it; but couldn't make out the audio -
apart from: "...so tonite you'll have to do with THE REAL THING!!" at the end.

”We went to this Abba concert while we were in London and we’re working hard with our own holograms. But we’re not quite ready yet, so tonight you’ll have to do with the real thing.” Something like that.

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MelBelli
Ronnie solo YCAGWYW:

[youtube.com]

So strange. Most players as their ears age need more treble and brightness. Ronnie has gone darker in his tone. Technique is what it is, but it’s very hard even for my 46yr old ears to hear any definition out of that murk.

really?

sounded like one of his best this tour to me

oh well must just be a matter of personal taste

but i'm with the critics on the quality of his tumbling dice solo

With all due respect it was unlistenable to my ears, watching him fool around and waving and flaying his arms throughout the show hardly playing most of the time i get the feeling sadly that this is the last tour for Ronnie and he knows it, possibly he knows it's the last tour for all of them, who knows.
He seems more passionate about selling tens of thousands of set lists prints for £80 a time and putting out spoilers at this stage in the game, i don't believe his heart is in playing live with the Stones anymore and it's got little to do with his health as we know he got the all clear nearly two years ago and put on great performances last year after a difficult start to the tour.
Physically he appears in great shape running and jumping along throughout, to my ears and eyes he's just not interested in playing and soloing at a level that's acceptable for the greatest rock and roll band in the world.
If you guys still appreciate Ronnie's efforts i'm happy for you, but don't get personal with me because i think he either can't or won't play to the best of his ability. If Keith played like that the comments would be merciless, be thankful Ronnie gets a free pass and is generally loved by all, i love him but enough is enough, he's putting a damper on what has been a monumental effort from Mick and Keith to celebrate 60 years together with pride and in style.

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Nikkei
How can they drop 19th Nervous Breakdown this late into the tour? For me that is a bait-and-switch move.

they doing it every second show…

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deeeskannnie
What was that ABBA/avatar-joke Mick made?
I've seen a short smartphone clip of it; but couldn't make out the audio -
apart from: "...so tonite you'll have to do with THE REAL THING!!" at the end.

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Nikkei

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Nikkei
How can they drop 19th Nervous Breakdown this late into the tour? For me that is a bait-and-switch move.

they doing it every second show…

They didn't do it yesterday, didn't do it in Gelsenkirchen. I thought every show before had it included except maybe for one of the Hyde Parks?

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Nikkei

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Nikkei
How can they drop 19th Nervous Breakdown this late into the tour? For me that is a bait-and-switch move.

they doing it every second show…

They didn't do it yesterday, didn't do it in Gelsenkirchen. I thought every show before had it included except maybe for one of the Hyde Parks?

At Hyde Park it was played both shows but it was replaced with LSTNT in Amsterdam, Vienna, Lyon, Gelsenkirchen and Stockholm.

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Nikkei

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Nikkei
How can they drop 19th Nervous Breakdown this late into the tour? For me that is a bait-and-switch move.

they doing it every second show…

They didn't do it yesterday, didn't do it in Gelsenkirchen. I thought every show before had it included except maybe for one of the Hyde Parks?

At Hyde Park it was played both shows but it was replaced with LSTNT in Amsterdam, Vienna, Lyon, Gelsenkirchen and Stockholm.

Ok well that's a couple I didn't know about. But I imagine everyone was psyched and expected it, also at these places. Out of Time, well okay, technically a winner but there's no way I can get excited about Matt Clifford. LSTNT is always nice but I've seen it several times.

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Any press review? Photos?

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MelBelli
Ronnie solo YCAGWYW:

[youtube.com]

So strange. Most players as their ears age need more treble and brightness. Ronnie has gone darker in his tone. Technique is what it is, but it’s very hard even for my 46yr old ears to hear any definition out of that murk.

really?

sounded like one of his best this tour to me

oh well must just be a matter of personal taste

but i'm with the critics on the quality of his tumbling dice solo

With all due respect it was unlistenable to my ears, watching him fool around and waving and flaying his arms throughout the show hardly playing most of the time i get the feeling sadly that this is the last tour for Ronnie and he knows it, possibly he knows it's the last tour for all of them, who knows.
He seems more passionate about selling tens of thousands of set lists prints for £80 a time and putting out spoilers at this stage in the game, i don't believe his heart is in playing live with the Stones anymore and it's got little to do with his health as we know he got the all clear nearly two years ago and put on great performances last year after a difficult start to the tour.
Physically he appears in great shape running and jumping along throughout, to my ears and eyes he's just not interested in playing and soloing at a level that's acceptable for the greatest rock and roll band in the world.
If you guys still appreciate Ronnie's efforts i'm happy for you, but don't get personal with me because i think he either can't or won't play to the best of his ability. If Keith played like that the comments would be merciless, be thankful Ronnie gets a free pass and is generally loved by all, i love him but enough is enough, he's putting a damper on what has been a monumental effort from Mick and Keith to celebrate 60 years together with pride and in style.

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Nikkei
There's nothing better than LSTNT when Keith is up for singing it

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Nikkei
There's nothing better than LSTNT when Keith is up for singing it

Hey, how about Keith singing on LARS?

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Nikkei
There's nothing better than LSTNT when Keith is up for singing it

Hey, how about Keith singing on LARS?

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MelBelli
The Tumbling solo was not his greatest, but mostly fine. It sounded a little weird because, judging from the Matt Lee video, it was *way* too high in the mix. This has been a maddening issue for me for several years. The front—of-house sound is radically different than it was pre-2012. Keith and Ronnie traditionally sound best when they’re in a balanced stage blend. I saw a video of Rambler recently that was taken from behind the stage. I was like Ah, they sound like a “band band” again!

The front of house now sounds like a recording studio - everyone in isolation booths, as it were.

Please post that clip of Rambler from behind the stage.

We've talked about the mix before--do you suppose the outdoor/wind elements have something to do with the weird mix issues?

Also, might not be a coincidence that things started to get wonky in 2012. Part of the weird isolated members in the mix might have to do with the engineers kind of "babysitting' Keith to make sure they're on top of any bloopers. Think they're a little too aggressive in their attempt to protect him....

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bye bye johnny

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Oriongalaxy
Any press review? Photos?

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MelBelli

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MelBelli
The Tumbling solo was not his greatest, but mostly fine. It sounded a little weird because, judging from the Matt Lee video, it was *way* too high in the mix. This has been a maddening issue for me for several years. The front—of-house sound is radically different than it was pre-2012. Keith and Ronnie traditionally sound best when they’re in a balanced stage blend. I saw a video of Rambler recently that was taken from behind the stage. I was like Ah, they sound like a “band band” again!

The front of house now sounds like a recording studio - everyone in isolation booths, as it were.

Please post that clip of Rambler from behind the stage.

We've talked about the mix before--do you suppose the outdoor/wind elements have something to do with the weird mix issues?

Also, might not be a coincidence that things started to get wonky in 2012. Part of the weird isolated members in the mix might have to do with the engineers kind of "babysitting' Keith to make sure they're on top of any bloopers. Think they're a little too aggressive in their attempt to protect him....

Here it is, from Paris:

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Naturally, Steve is loudest, but to me, that sounds like the Stones. I don’t think engineers are protecting Keith and Ronnie. If anything, the opposite. They are probably younger guys who think everything they play is ipso facto legendary.