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Ronnie is playing wonderfully in my book this tour. A welcome change from that frantic stuff.

Yeah. I don't really know what these people are all on about. I saw the shows in Munich and Vienna and Ronnie was playing plenty:

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It’s all the people that don’t go to the concerts. The Stones YouTube watcher

Well, The Stones ‘YouTube watcher’ get to access expertly shot and sounding videos. We can just a performance objectively and rationally. Those in actual attendance have a judgment clouded by so, so many other factors. I, by the way, am an attendee and someone who enjoys the excellent videos we’re getting.

Expertly shot and great sounding phones videos? Come on man, you are seeing where the person is pointing the phone at and don't get me started on the sound. Sure, being there is clouded by the experience whether good or bad but watching Mick on a YouTube video listening to poor (IMHO) sounding phone audio doesn't tell me anything how Ronnie is actually playing.

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If I was Jagger I'd make sure to have Mick Taylor back onboard for a couple of songs so that he can take Ronnie's place or even replace him if necessary

Taylor got his chance to do whatever. It didn't work. So, you know, Ronnie.

Ronnie's ego has never gotten in the way.

Absolutely. Anyone that thinks if something happens to Ronnie that Taylor is going to step in and save the day is dreaming.
I hate saying this because I love Mick Taylor but he just doesn’t fit in the Stones anymore.
I wanted Mick to succeed so badly, I kept saying to myself “ just hang back, be Mick Taylor” I wanted to see the three guitar attack work so much but he just kept ambling out to center stage endlessly riffing on these leads that went nowhere.
I really think if he would’ve stood back by Chuck and the singers and blended in he’d still be there.
I was up front and close enough to see the look on Keiths face and I knew, it’s over.Keith has two smiles and they mean opposite things.

That's a very insightful post, never thought about it from that point of view, MT did seem to be showing off a bit, almost to the point of humiliating Ronnie and Keith. Taylor was a shock, his personality and body language was like seeing a different man onstage to what i expected, all of a sudden the showman.
Perhaps he saw it as his job to deliver something spectacular and he did as far as the audiences were concerned, in hindsight he blew it.

I always looked at it from another angle, was Jagger bringing Taylor along as insurance in case Ronnie messed up, in hindsight again we know Ronnie certainly didn't mess up, in fact he never messed up again and Taylor was never needed again.

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Ronnie is playing wonderfully in my book this tour. A welcome change from that frantic stuff.

Yeah. I don't really know what these people are all on about. I saw the shows in Munich and Vienna and Ronnie was playing plenty:

[www.instagram.com]

It’s all the people that don’t go to the concerts. The Stones YouTube watcher

Well, The Stones ‘YouTube watcher’ get to access expertly shot and sounding videos. We can just a performance objectively and rationally. Those in actual attendance have a judgment clouded by so, so many other factors. I, by the way, am an attendee and someone who enjoys the excellent videos we’re getting.

Expertly shot and great sounding phones videos? Come on man, you are seeing where the person is pointing the phone at and don't get me started on the sound. Sure, being there is clouded by the experience whether good or bad but watching Mick on a YouTube video listening to poor (IMHO) sounding phone audio doesn't tell me anything how Ronnie is actually playing.

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If I was Jagger I'd make sure to have Mick Taylor back onboard for a couple of songs so that he can take Ronnie's place or even replace him if necessary

Taylor got his chance to do whatever. It didn't work. So, you know, Ronnie.

Ronnie's ego has never gotten in the way.

Absolutely. Anyone that thinks if something happens to Ronnie that Taylor is going to step in and save the day is dreaming.
I hate saying this because I love Mick Taylor but he just doesn’t fit in the Stones anymore.
I wanted Mick to succeed so badly, I kept saying to myself “ just hang back, be Mick Taylor” I wanted to see the three guitar attack work so much but he just kept ambling out to center stage endlessly riffing on these leads that went nowhere.
I really think if he would’ve stood back by Chuck and the singers and blended in he’d still be there.
I was up front and close enough to see the look on Keiths face and I knew, it’s over.Keith has two smiles and they mean opposite things.

That's a very insightful post, never thought about it from that point of view, MT did seem to be showing off a bit, almost to the point of humiliating Ronnie and Keith. Taylor was a shock, his personality and body language was like seeing a different man onstage to what i expected, all of a sudden the showman.
Perhaps he saw it as his job to deliver something spectacular and he did as far as the audiences were concerned, in hindsight he blew it.

I always looked at it from another angle, was Jagger bringing Taylor along as insurance in case Ronnie messed up, in hindsight again we know Ronnie certainly didn't mess up, in fact he never messed up again and Taylor was never needed again.

Much more boring than that I would think. The promotors couldn't get insurance because of Keith's health. Someone - maybe Jagger? - had the bright idea of having Taylor as a special guest just in case Keith (or Ronnie) had issues. Taylor needed the money and said Yes
As it happened they got through 2012 and 2013 without mishap and by 2014 the insurers were content. Taylor not required thank you.

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Ronnie is playing wonderfully in my book this tour. A welcome change from that frantic stuff.

Yeah. I don't really know what these people are all on about. I saw the shows in Munich and Vienna and Ronnie was playing plenty:

[www.instagram.com]

It’s all the people that don’t go to the concerts. The Stones YouTube watcher

Well, The Stones ‘YouTube watcher’ get to access expertly shot and sounding videos. We can just a performance objectively and rationally. Those in actual attendance have a judgment clouded by so, so many other factors. I, by the way, am an attendee and someone who enjoys the excellent videos we’re getting.

Expertly shot and great sounding phones videos? Come on man, you are seeing where the person is pointing the phone at and don't get me started on the sound. Sure, being there is clouded by the experience whether good or bad but watching Mick on a YouTube video listening to poor (IMHO) sounding phone audio doesn't tell me anything how Ronnie is actually playing.

I don't want to argue with you, just saying in my experience this year where the sound wasn't loud enough ( obviously i was in a poor spot for sound, i'm fully aware someone somewhere else at Hyde Park would have had a better sound experience than me ) it's been better sound on YouTube, especially with the sound system i have at home through the TV. It was better at home than being there in my case, just sayinng there are some good youtube recordings that clearly reveal how good or bad Ronnie or Keith is playing.

Did anyone else go HP 2 and find it wasnt very loud, especially at the beginning, i could hear drunks talking above the music, on youtube you hear the music above the talking

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Ronnie is playing wonderfully in my book this tour. A welcome change from that frantic stuff.

Yeah. I don't really know what these people are all on about. I saw the shows in Munich and Vienna and Ronnie was playing plenty:

[www.instagram.com]

It’s all the people that don’t go to the concerts. The Stones YouTube watcher

Well, The Stones ‘YouTube watcher’ get to access expertly shot and sounding videos. We can just a performance objectively and rationally. Those in actual attendance have a judgment clouded by so, so many other factors. I, by the way, am an attendee and someone who enjoys the excellent videos we’re getting.

Expertly shot and great sounding phones videos? Come on man, you are seeing where the person is pointing the phone at and don't get me started on the sound. Sure, being there is clouded by the experience whether good or bad but watching Mick on a YouTube video listening to poor (IMHO) sounding phone audio doesn't tell me anything how Ronnie is actually playing.

I don't want to argue with you, just saying in my experience this year where the sound wasn't loud enough ( obviously i was in a poor spot for sound, i'm fully aware someone somewhere else at Hyde Park would have had a better sound experience than me ) it's been better sound on YouTube, especially with the sound system i have at home through the TV. It was better at home than being there in my case, just sayinng there are some good youtube recordings that clearly reveal how good or bad Ronnie or Keith is playing.

Did anyone else go HP 2 and find it wasnt very loud, especially at the beginning, i could hear drunks talking above the music, on youtube you hear the music above the talking

I was at HP2 and the sound volume was fine. My recording sounds fine as well. If it sounded that bad where you were why didn't you find a better spot?

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Ronnie is playing wonderfully in my book this tour. A welcome change from that frantic stuff.

Yeah. I don't really know what these people are all on about. I saw the shows in Munich and Vienna and Ronnie was playing plenty:

[www.instagram.com]

It’s all the people that don’t go to the concerts. The Stones YouTube watcher

Well, The Stones ‘YouTube watcher’ get to access expertly shot and sounding videos. We can just a performance objectively and rationally. Those in actual attendance have a judgment clouded by so, so many other factors. I, by the way, am an attendee and someone who enjoys the excellent videos we’re getting.

Expertly shot and great sounding phones videos? Come on man, you are seeing where the person is pointing the phone at and don't get me started on the sound. Sure, being there is clouded by the experience whether good or bad but watching Mick on a YouTube video listening to poor (IMHO) sounding phone audio doesn't tell me anything how Ronnie is actually playing.

I don't want to argue with you, just saying in my experience this year where the sound wasn't loud enough ( obviously i was in a poor spot for sound, i'm fully aware someone somewhere else at Hyde Park would have had a better sound experience than me ) it's been better sound on YouTube, especially with the sound system i have at home through the TV. It was better at home than being there in my case, just sayinng there are some good youtube recordings that clearly reveal how good or bad Ronnie or Keith is playing.

Did anyone else go HP 2 and find it wasnt very loud, especially at the beginning, i could hear drunks talking above the music, on youtube you hear the music above the talking

I was at HP2 and the sound volume was fine. My recording sounds fine as well. If it sounded that bad where you were why didn't you find a better spot?

Eventually i sacrificed a better view for better sound but it was the quietest I've ever heard them. They seem to turn Keith up for solos & intros but the overall sound volume was disappointing, my ears normally ache after a Stones show

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If I was Jagger I'd make sure to have Mick Taylor back onboard for a couple of songs so that he can take Ronnie's place or even replace him if necessary

Taylor got his chance to do whatever. It didn't work. So, you know, Ronnie.

Ronnie's ego has never gotten in the way.

Absolutely. Anyone that thinks if something happens to Ronnie that Taylor is going to step in and save the day is dreaming.
I hate saying this because I love Mick Taylor but he just doesn’t fit in the Stones anymore.
I wanted Mick to succeed so badly, I kept saying to myself “ just hang back, be Mick Taylor” I wanted to see the three guitar attack work so much but he just kept ambling out to center stage endlessly riffing on these leads that went nowhere.
I really think if he would’ve stood back by Chuck and the singers and blended in he’d still be there.
I was up front and close enough to see the look on Keiths face and I knew, it’s over.Keith has two smiles and they mean opposite things.

That's a very insightful post, never thought about it from that point of view, MT did seem to be showing off a bit, almost to the point of humiliating Ronnie and Keith. Taylor was a shock, his personality and body language was like seeing a different man onstage to what i expected, all of a sudden the showman.
Perhaps he saw it as his job to deliver something spectacular and he did as far as the audiences were concerned, in hindsight he blew it.

I always looked at it from another angle, was Jagger bringing Taylor along as insurance in case Ronnie messed up, in hindsight again we know Ronnie certainly didn't mess up, in fact he never messed up again and Taylor was never needed again.

Much more boring than that I would think. The promotors couldn't get insurance because of Keith's health. Someone - maybe Jagger? - had the bright idea of having Taylor as a special guest just in case Keith (or Ronnie) had issues. Taylor needed the money and said Yes
As it happened they got through 2012 and 2013 without mishap and by 2014 the insurers were content. Taylor not required thank you.

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Watching the NYC dvd last night and comparing Ronnie and Keith 2003 to 2022, I’ve got to say in 2003 they were cartoon characters compared to this tour. Ronnie was just goofing around back then.
Keith was performing like an epileptic monkey, just haming it up and just acting about and playing the part. Poor Mick

2022, however, what an amazing band, just firing on all cylinders. It’s a beautiful thing to be a part of and a joy to see.

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Watching the NYC dvd last night and comparing Ronnie and Keith 2003 to 2022, I’ve got to say in 2003 they were cartoon characters compared to this tour. Ronnie was just goofing around back then.
Keith was performing like an epileptic monkey, just haming it up and just acting about and playing the part. Poor Mick

2022, however, what an amazing band, just firing on all cylinders. It’s a beautiful thing to be a part of and a joy to see.

Quite a tasteless and cruel description, especially since it's been said that Keith has been on anti-epilepsy medication since banging his head.