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As far as I can read on his Wiki page, Darryl NEVER played with a rock and roll band before Charlie picked him for the Stones. Think about that. Charlie added a slight jazz swing to the Stones. I still don't know what Darryl brings to the table. Do you really think Charlie was the best person to choose a rock and roll bass player for the Stones? He admitted he didn't think much about what Bill played all those years until he had to go back and listen to the songs.

Bill had a rough edge because he grew up in harder circumstances. It comes through in the music. Darryl is real smooth, like solo Sting. But that's not rock and roll. I'll be interested to know how long this documentary is. His history seems pretty straightforward. Wasn't there a Billy Preston documentary at one point? Now that would be cool to watch.

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Surely Darryl is a nice guy but he's overqualified for the job. You can have a jazz saxophonist in a rock and roll band but a jazz bassist is stretching it since the bass is the foundation of rock and roll.
I think Charlie's love of jazz music led to this decision - which was the wrong one. For both parts. Not financially though...

I don’t hear in his playing any rock magic, I don’t think he is overqualified to play rock.I don’t know what that means.

To be overqualified is not always something good. Jazz and rock are different forms of music, jazz the more complex one (even if they mix and come together at some level).
To play rock music for a jazz musician is to take one step down the ladder.

Please. Jazz is not a better music, it's a different music. Just because you can play jazz doesn't mean you can play rock. Sometimes jazz just sounds like over indulgent noodling, playing for themselves. I said sometimes. I have great respect for a lot of jazz musicians. Bill is steeped in rock and roll, first hearing it while in the RAF in Germany, on America's Armed Forces radio. It was in his bones. He played it with the Cliftons before he ever joined the Stones. The Stones turned him onto blues and he took to it, much like they took to some of the rock he knew that they didn't.

As far as I can read on his Wiki page, Darryl NEVER played with a rock and roll band before Charlie picked him for the Stones. Think about that. Charlie added a slight jazz swing to the Stones. I still don't know what Darryl brings to the table. Do you really think Charlie was the best person to choose a rock and roll bass player for the Stones? He admitted he didn't think much about what Bill played all those years until he had to go back and listen to the songs.

Bill had a rough edge because he grew up in harder circumstances. It comes through in the music. Darryl is real smooth, like solo Sting. But that's not rock and roll. I'll be interested to know how long this documentary is. His history seems pretty straightforward. Wasn't there a Billy Preston documentary at one point? Now that would be cool to watch.

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I've been on the receiving end, too by offending someone with a sarcastic post that was interpreted literally. I regret it, but you can't undo it. You can only learn not to repeat.

As for this topic, the documentary description interests me, particularly his childhood. I like Darryl's work on VOOODOO LOUNGE a great deal. It fit well and they sounded like a tight band. There's a world of a difference between post-Wyman studio and live work. The stage show they've developed over the decades isn't something I love, though it has moments. I love Steve Jordan on MAIN OFFENDER, but don't love what I hear in concert with The Stones yet. I did hear a difference between 2021 and 2022, though. Ultimately, it's Mick and Keith at the end of their careers working with who they're comfortable with.

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Surely Darryl is a nice guy but he's overqualified for the job. You can have a jazz saxophonist in a rock and roll band but a jazz bassist is stretching it since the bass is the foundation of rock and roll.
I think Charlie's love of jazz music led to this decision - which was the wrong one. For both parts. Not financially though...

I don’t hear in his playing any rock magic, I don’t think he is overqualified to play rock.I don’t know what that means.

To be overqualified is not always something good. Jazz and rock are different forms of music, jazz the more complex one (even if they mix and come together at some level).
To play rock music for a jazz musician is to take one step down the ladder.

Please. Jazz is not a better music, it's a different music. Just because you can play jazz doesn't mean you can play rock. Sometimes jazz just sounds like over indulgent noodling, playing for themselves. I said sometimes. I have great respect for a lot of jazz musicians. Bill is steeped in rock and roll, first hearing it while in the RAF in Germany, on America's Armed Forces radio. It was in his bones. He played it with the Cliftons before he ever joined the Stones. The Stones turned him onto blues and he took to it, much like they took to some of the rock he knew that they didn't.

As far as I can read on his Wiki page, Darryl NEVER played with a rock and roll band before Charlie picked him for the Stones. Think about that. Charlie added a slight jazz swing to the Stones. I still don't know what Darryl brings to the table. Do you really think Charlie was the best person to choose a rock and roll bass player for the Stones? He admitted he didn't think much about what Bill played all those years until he had to go back and listen to the songs.

Bill had a rough edge because he grew up in harder circumstances. It comes through in the music. Darryl is real smooth, like solo Sting. But that's not rock and roll. I'll be interested to know how long this documentary is. His history seems pretty straightforward. Wasn't there a Billy Preston documentary at one point? Now that would be cool to watch.

and i'm sure growing up on the south side of chicago in the 60's and 70's was just a walk in the park for darryl

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Surely Darryl is a nice guy but he's overqualified for the job. You can have a jazz saxophonist in a rock and roll band but a jazz bassist is stretching it since the bass is the foundation of rock and roll.
I think Charlie's love of jazz music led to this decision - which was the wrong one. For both parts. Not financially though...

I don’t hear in his playing any rock magic, I don’t think he is overqualified to play rock.I don’t know what that means.

To be overqualified is not always something good. Jazz and rock are different forms of music, jazz the more complex one (even if they mix and come together at some level).
To play rock music for a jazz musician is to take one step down the ladder.

Please. Jazz is not a better music, it's a different music. Just because you can play jazz doesn't mean you can play rock. Sometimes jazz just sounds like over indulgent noodling, playing for themselves. I said sometimes. I have great respect for a lot of jazz musicians. Bill is steeped in rock and roll, first hearing it while in the RAF in Germany, on America's Armed Forces radio. It was in his bones. He played it with the Cliftons before he ever joined the Stones. The Stones turned him onto blues and he took to it, much like they took to some of the rock he knew that they didn't.

As far as I can read on his Wiki page, Darryl NEVER played with a rock and roll band before Charlie picked him for the Stones. Think about that. Charlie added a slight jazz swing to the Stones. I still don't know what Darryl brings to the table. Do you really think Charlie was the best person to choose a rock and roll bass player for the Stones? He admitted he didn't think much about what Bill played all those years until he had to go back and listen to the songs.

Bill had a rough edge because he grew up in harder circumstances. It comes through in the music. Darryl is real smooth, like solo Sting. But that's not rock and roll. I'll be interested to know how long this documentary is. His history seems pretty straightforward. Wasn't there a Billy Preston documentary at one point? Now that would be cool to watch.

and i'm sure growing up on the south side of chicago in the 60's and 70's was just a walk in the park for darryl

Read his Wikipedia page. Darryl's growing up sounds suburban bliss compared to Bill's.

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Rolling Stones Bassist Darryl Jones Talks Keith, Miles, and Changing Consciousness

Jones, the subject of a new documentary, loves his life

Written By Brooke Axtell
| October 7, 2022

[www.spin.com]

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Wondering if Darryl will mention anything about the supposed new Stones album?

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I think it’s a crying shame that The Stones, having played with Darryl for almost 30 years, like so many of us apparently, can’t hear how wrong he is for them. Dead set shame. They REALLY should consult us…

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Personally, I agree with much of what you say. This isn't a thread about Darryl's playing, it's a thread about a Darryl Jones documentary started by the makers of the film who have now backed away from the largest Stones message board because of the reception they received.

This isn't the first time. It's the same reason Bill German and Lawrence Peyser don't post here or why a couple genuine insiders stopped posting here. It's not about having room for cheerleaders only or not having thick skin. These people aren't middle aged fanboys spending hours every day at IORR. They're professionals using the board to market to fans. The anonymity of the internet makes people forget basic manners. If you passed by a festival screening of the documentary and saw Darryl and the producer there, would you take the time to go up and insult him? That's the equivalent of what happened. Again, I agree with much of what you said, but I wouldn't have said on a thread promoting a documentary on the man.

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Personally, I agree with much of what you say. This isn't a thread about Darryl's playing, it's a thread about a Darryl Jones documentary started by the makers of the film who have now backed away from the largest Stones message board because of the reception they received.

This isn't the first time. It's the same reason Bill German and Lawrence Peyser don't post here or why a couple genuine insiders stopped posting here. It's not about having room for cheerleaders only or not having thick skin. These people aren't middle aged fanboys spending hours every day at IORR. They're professionals using the board to market to fans. The anonymity of the internet makes people forget basic manners. If you passed by a festival screening of the documentary and saw Darryl and the producer there, would you take the time to go up and insult him? That's the equivalent of what happened. Again, I agree with much of what you said, but I wouldn't have said on a thread promoting a documentary on the man.

Spot on Rocky Dijon!


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