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Well the promoter's work doesn't seem so good to me. for me, charging a pit between 350/500 euros is a lot. many shows are not sold out. what would have happened if so many tickets cost less? also there are many young guys who are passionate about rock and the Rolling Stones who will not be able to participate in the concert due to the high prices ...
as for the RAH I believe that a standing ticket in the arena will cost no more than 500 pounds…
Wow. I went to several shows there in the 60s and 70s, including Dylan and the Stones' 1966 shows, and remember it as being huge! I guess I was smaller then.
Of course not. Between the two Hyde Park shows, the only available date of the RAH is 27 June. The Stones don’t play after one day interval these days. If they add another date during the said period, it should be another place — it may not necessarily be in London or even the UK — and the date should be 29 June, sandwiched between three days off on each end.
If an RAH show happens, it is more likely on 7 July which is still available on the venue’s schedule, and, again, three days off for the boys before and after, rather conveniently.
However, I’d rather be inclined towards the idea that the RAH show(s) may well materialize after the Proms (15 July-10 September), irrelevant of the group’s summer tour, as part of the venue’s 150th anniversary.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-20 13:37 by RisingStone.
you are close...
What a teaser! >
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It's been decided yet? O2?
shhhhht... don't jinx it!
But, actually: without even considering the possibilities, my money would be on a last-minute 'hush-hush' club show in town, between both Hyde Parks. June 29 or 30...
Made the necessary travel & lodging arrangements accordingly.
True; calendarwise RAH is out of the question between both London gigs.
between HP #2 and BXL, however, possibilities are there.
Moreover, I tend to think like Infamy and RisingStone stated here: that a gig there would be most likely ànd suiable after this tour - maybe even well after (like, f.i., september '22)
Well, they played the Beacon Theatre with half that audience size.
They could and would do it, if they wanted to. The rest of the tour subsidizes a one off historical gig, filmed for their 60th anniversary, and if we don't think we're getting a dvd of the tour anyways, we're delusional.
In 2002/03 they "sat on" charging normal (i.e. very high) prices for the club-gigs because :
- they would use the gigs for the post-tour live release(s)
- it was a great promo booster.
I'd go with a 50th Anniversary Exile show of the whole album.
I don’t think the RAH show will happen right after the Stones’ summer tour finishes (i.e. early August) a la Hard Rock Live, Hollywood, FL, in 2021, either, as the venue is used for the Proms from 15 July to September 10. That’s why I assume it will be in Autumn onwards unless it happens between HP2 and BXL.
Also — whether other small gigs, i.e. clubs and theatres, happen or not is completely another matter here. The speculation surrounding the Stones’ RAH show is related to the venue’s 150th anniversary. Personally I doubt any other types of “small” gigs will happen apart from RAH this time around. Will see.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-20 17:14 by RisingStone.
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Posted by:
roma1927
()
Date: March 20, 2022 00:03
How many believe in this rumors?
This rumor has been circulating since mick recorded his voice for the royal albert hall 150th anniversary trailer.
The last time the stones performed at the RAH was 1966 while the first time was in 1963. So what better place to celebrate the 60th anniversary?
It would be great if that happened. But let's look at the facts with clarity. The stones have recently announced the dates of the tour and in all there are 14. Fourteen is the number of dates that generally make up a European tour of the stones. Therefore the tour would seem closed. However, let's remember how the date at the hard rock casino was announced later. The possibilities seem slim but it could be something fantastic.
do you believe that this date will be add?
This rumor has been circulating since mick recorded his voice for the royal albert hall 150th anniversary trailer.
The last time the stones performed at the RAH was 1966 while the first time was in 1963. So what better place to celebrate the 60th anniversary?
It would be great if that happened. But let's look at the facts with clarity. The stones have recently announced the dates of the tour and in all there are 14. Fourteen is the number of dates that generally make up a European tour of the stones. Therefore the tour would seem closed. However, let's remember how the date at the hard rock casino was announced later. The possibilities seem slim but it could be something fantastic.
do you believe that this date will be add?
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
daspyknows
()
Date: March 20, 2022 01:01
Probably not gonna happen although the one show between Hyde Park 1 and Brussels is a large open block and the time between Hyde Park 2 and Brussels is open at RAH. If they want to do it they can, but do they?
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
artedm
()
Date: March 20, 2022 01:04
I hope they do not play royal albert hall.
It's easy to start a rumor because its easy for fans to think they want to see band play small room but they need to look at bands perspective why do it?
The band, management, promoter have made a great choice to play stadiums and big places- they can play to biggest crowd and have low ticket prices.
Back in 2013 for arena shows Tongue Pit tickets cost $1500 each now pit is maybe $500 because its bigger. Think with all the inflation and time to have cheaper prices!
If RAH holds 5272 do you make each ticket 2000 each? Some would pay others would scream. If you make each ticket 100 its not worth the time.
Regarding hard rock casino show- the venue was opened in late 2019-dark for covid- so it was almost basically brand new venue. Also owned by same people who own hard rock chain. Key point though is was at casino. Casino can afford to give a big guarantee because they will make money on hotel rooms (was $1200 a night on a tuesday to stay), restaurants,bars, casino. So out of the hard rock show band
1. got paid well
2. played a new place
3. develop relationship with hard rock chain
4. recorded the show- maybe for future release
It's easy to start a rumor because its easy for fans to think they want to see band play small room but they need to look at bands perspective why do it?
The band, management, promoter have made a great choice to play stadiums and big places- they can play to biggest crowd and have low ticket prices.
Back in 2013 for arena shows Tongue Pit tickets cost $1500 each now pit is maybe $500 because its bigger. Think with all the inflation and time to have cheaper prices!
If RAH holds 5272 do you make each ticket 2000 each? Some would pay others would scream. If you make each ticket 100 its not worth the time.
Regarding hard rock casino show- the venue was opened in late 2019-dark for covid- so it was almost basically brand new venue. Also owned by same people who own hard rock chain. Key point though is was at casino. Casino can afford to give a big guarantee because they will make money on hotel rooms (was $1200 a night on a tuesday to stay), restaurants,bars, casino. So out of the hard rock show band
1. got paid well
2. played a new place
3. develop relationship with hard rock chain
4. recorded the show- maybe for future release
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
roma1927
()
Date: March 20, 2022 01:19
Quote
artedm
I hope they do not play royal albert hall.
It's easy to start a rumor because its easy for fans to think they want to see band play small room but they need to look at bands perspective why do it?
The band, management, promoter have made a great choice to play stadiums and big places- they can play to biggest crowd and have low ticket prices.
Back in 2013 for arena shows Tongue Pit tickets cost $1500 each now pit is maybe $500 because its bigger. Think with all the inflation and time to have cheaper prices!
If RAH holds 5272 do you make each ticket 2000 each? Some would pay others would scream. If you make each ticket 100 its not worth the time.
Regarding hard rock casino show- the venue was opened in late 2019-dark for covid- so it was almost basically brand new venue. Also owned by same people who own hard rock chain. Key point though is was at casino. Casino can afford to give a big guarantee because they will make money on hotel rooms (was $1200 a night on a tuesday to stay), restaurants,bars, casino. So out of the hard rock show band
1. got paid well
2. played a new place
3. develop relationship with hard rock chain
4. recorded the show- maybe for future release
Well the promoter's work doesn't seem so good to me. for me, charging a pit between 350/500 euros is a lot. many shows are not sold out. what would have happened if so many tickets cost less? also there are many young guys who are passionate about rock and the Rolling Stones who will not be able to participate in the concert due to the high prices ...
as for the RAH I believe that a standing ticket in the arena will cost no more than 500 pounds…
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: March 20, 2022 01:52
If I were a betting man, I'd say a 50/50 chance maybe/maybe not...
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Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
Aquamarine
()
Date: March 20, 2022 07:46
Quote
artedm
If RAH holds 5272
Wow. I went to several shows there in the 60s and 70s, including Dylan and the Stones' 1966 shows, and remember it as being huge! I guess I was smaller then.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
AntoineParis
()
Date: March 20, 2022 12:21
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
ukcal
()
Date: March 20, 2022 12:38
They could do a SIXTY pay per view LIVE from the RAH...with special guests
This would be the biggest pay day of the tour.
This would be the biggest pay day of the tour.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
Infamy
()
Date: March 20, 2022 13:01
I think(and hope) it will happen. Simply because they absolutely love to play. Why not end the tour with something really special?
Ray
15 and counting. No stopping. Stockholm next.
Ray
15 and counting. No stopping. Stockholm next.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: March 20, 2022 13:05
I never really believed in this rumor. But if they really played RAH I'll be there
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: March 20, 2022 13:06
Quote
AntoineParis
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
Of course not. Between the two Hyde Park shows, the only available date of the RAH is 27 June. The Stones don’t play after one day interval these days. If they add another date during the said period, it should be another place — it may not necessarily be in London or even the UK — and the date should be 29 June, sandwiched between three days off on each end.
If an RAH show happens, it is more likely on 7 July which is still available on the venue’s schedule, and, again, three days off for the boys before and after, rather conveniently.
However, I’d rather be inclined towards the idea that the RAH show(s) may well materialize after the Proms (15 July-10 September), irrelevant of the group’s summer tour, as part of the venue’s 150th anniversary.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-20 13:37 by RisingStone.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
AntoineParis
()
Date: March 20, 2022 13:25
Quote
ukcal
They could do a SIXTY pay per view LIVE from the RAH...with special guests
This would be the biggest pay day of the tour.
you are close...
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
Father Ted
()
Date: March 20, 2022 13:38
Wembley Stadium has Ed Sheeran for that week, Twickenham looks free and London Stadium could fit the Stones in between the RHCPs and the Foo Fighters.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: March 20, 2022 13:54
Quote
AntoineParis
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
exhpart
()
Date: March 20, 2022 14:30
The only way they might do RAH or any other small(ish) gig is if they are looking at a "Shine A Light" repeat, that is, a film and DVD/CD release to celebrate 60 years. Not saying they won't do it but I can't see them just playing a small room
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: March 20, 2022 14:47
"100 Club" ?
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Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: March 20, 2022 14:50
Quote
AntoineParis
A gig between hyde park gigs ? Sure
RAH ? Sure no, another place in London
What a teaser! >
<It's been decided yet? O2?
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
slewan
()
Date: March 20, 2022 15:09
I pretty sure that something will be added into one of those two large gaps in the tour schedule (while the other might be the usual week off in the middle of the tour). But I doubt it will be RAH or anything alike. I'd rather put my money on Prague
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
roma1927
()
Date: March 20, 2022 15:12
The real question is: how was born this rumor?
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
SonicDreamer
()
Date: March 20, 2022 15:20
Hi All,
Here we go with the Art of the Possible.
The Licks 2003 Astoria London gig tickets were £35.00 plus the booking fee.
The Licks 2003 Twickenham Stadium London pitch tickets were £75.00 plus the booking fee.
The Licks 2003 Wembley Arena London tickets were £150.00 (front A blocks) plus the booking fee.
On that basis, I think the notion that the ticket prices for a 2022 club show in London need to be exorbitant to cover their normal promoter and overhead costs is not a valid point.
If there was a "club show" at the Royal Albert Hall (RAH), going on the general price of tickets for top tier artists there, I think it is likely the ticket price tiers would be higher than if the Stones played Brixton Academy or the Shepherd's Bush Empire.
For the RAH, I reckon the Stones would charge upwards of £200.00 for top price tickets and in a venue like the Shepherd's Bush Empire maybe something like £75.00.
VENUE AVAILABILITY (as at 20 March 2022)
The Royal Albert Hall (RAH) [ 5,272 capacity ] - is NOT available from 27th June to 1st July 2022, i.e. other artists booked.
Brixton Academy [ 4,921 capacity ] - is NOT available from 27th June to 1st July 2022, i.e. other artists booked.
Roundhouse [ 1,700 capacity] - is NOT available on 30th June, but IS available on 26th, 27th and 28th June and on 1st July 2022.
Shepherd's Bush Empire [ 2,000 capacity ] - is NOT available from 27th to 29th June 2022, but IS available on 30th June 2022 and on 1st July 2022.
Eventim (Hammersmith) Apollo [ 5,039 capacity with standing in the stalls ] - is NOT available from 27th to 29th June 2022, but IS available on 30th June 2022 and on 1st July 2022.
KOKO (Camden) [ 1,410 capacity ] - is NOT available on 28th June, but IS available on 27th, 29th and 30th June and on 1st July 2022.[to my mind this would be the best venue as it would allow them to have good rig set-up time]
O2 Forum Kentish Town [ 2,300 capacity ] - is NOT available on 29th June, but IS available on 26th, 27th, 28th and 30th June and on 1st July 2022.
--------------------
There have been cases where a bigger band has bought out another artist playing a theatre or club venue on a night they wanted to play; Prince did that, so although some of the venues above are already booked that is not an absolute situation.
Cheers,
SonicD
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-20 15:21 by SonicDreamer.
Here we go with the Art of the Possible.
The Licks 2003 Astoria London gig tickets were £35.00 plus the booking fee.
The Licks 2003 Twickenham Stadium London pitch tickets were £75.00 plus the booking fee.
The Licks 2003 Wembley Arena London tickets were £150.00 (front A blocks) plus the booking fee.
On that basis, I think the notion that the ticket prices for a 2022 club show in London need to be exorbitant to cover their normal promoter and overhead costs is not a valid point.
If there was a "club show" at the Royal Albert Hall (RAH), going on the general price of tickets for top tier artists there, I think it is likely the ticket price tiers would be higher than if the Stones played Brixton Academy or the Shepherd's Bush Empire.
For the RAH, I reckon the Stones would charge upwards of £200.00 for top price tickets and in a venue like the Shepherd's Bush Empire maybe something like £75.00.
VENUE AVAILABILITY (as at 20 March 2022)
The Royal Albert Hall (RAH) [ 5,272 capacity ] - is NOT available from 27th June to 1st July 2022, i.e. other artists booked.
Brixton Academy [ 4,921 capacity ] - is NOT available from 27th June to 1st July 2022, i.e. other artists booked.
Roundhouse [ 1,700 capacity] - is NOT available on 30th June, but IS available on 26th, 27th and 28th June and on 1st July 2022.
Shepherd's Bush Empire [ 2,000 capacity ] - is NOT available from 27th to 29th June 2022, but IS available on 30th June 2022 and on 1st July 2022.
Eventim (Hammersmith) Apollo [ 5,039 capacity with standing in the stalls ] - is NOT available from 27th to 29th June 2022, but IS available on 30th June 2022 and on 1st July 2022.
KOKO (Camden) [ 1,410 capacity ] - is NOT available on 28th June, but IS available on 27th, 29th and 30th June and on 1st July 2022.[to my mind this would be the best venue as it would allow them to have good rig set-up time]
O2 Forum Kentish Town [ 2,300 capacity ] - is NOT available on 29th June, but IS available on 26th, 27th, 28th and 30th June and on 1st July 2022.
--------------------
There have been cases where a bigger band has bought out another artist playing a theatre or club venue on a night they wanted to play; Prince did that, so although some of the venues above are already booked that is not an absolute situation.
Cheers,
SonicD
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-20 15:21 by SonicDreamer.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
deeeskannnie
()
Date: March 20, 2022 15:21
Quote
gotdablouse
"100 Club" ?
shhhhht... don't jinx it!
But, actually: without even considering the possibilities, my money would be on a last-minute 'hush-hush' club show in town, between both Hyde Parks. June 29 or 30...
Made the necessary travel & lodging arrangements accordingly.
True; calendarwise RAH is out of the question between both London gigs.
between HP #2 and BXL, however, possibilities are there.
Moreover, I tend to think like Infamy and RisingStone stated here: that a gig there would be most likely ànd suiable after this tour - maybe even well after (like, f.i., september '22)
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: March 20, 2022 15:35
Quote
artedm
I hope they do not play royal albert hall.
It's easy to start a rumor because its easy for fans to think they want to see band play small room but they need to look at bands perspective why do it?
The band, management, promoter have made a great choice to play stadiums and big places- they can play to biggest crowd and have low ticket prices.
Back in 2013 for arena shows Tongue Pit tickets cost $1500 each now pit is maybe $500 because its bigger. Think with all the inflation and time to have cheaper prices!
If RAH holds 5272 do you make each ticket 2000 each? Some would pay others would scream. If you make each ticket 100 its not worth the time.
Regarding hard rock casino show- the venue was opened in late 2019-dark for covid- so it was almost basically brand new venue. Also owned by same people who own hard rock chain. Key point though is was at casino. Casino can afford to give a big guarantee because they will make money on hotel rooms (was $1200 a night on a tuesday to stay), restaurants,bars, casino. So out of the hard rock show band
1. got paid well
2. played a new place
3. develop relationship with hard rock chain
4. recorded the show- maybe for future release
Well, they played the Beacon Theatre with half that audience size.
They could and would do it, if they wanted to. The rest of the tour subsidizes a one off historical gig, filmed for their 60th anniversary, and if we don't think we're getting a dvd of the tour anyways, we're delusional.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
steadyrollinman
()
Date: March 20, 2022 15:44
They could do a one-night-only Blue & Lonesome Mick-Keith-Ronnie-Darryl-Steve RAH gig...
... but they won't.
... but they won't.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: March 20, 2022 16:31
Quote
SonicDreamer
Here we go with the Art of the Possible.
The Licks 2003 Astoria London gig tickets were £35.00 plus the booking fee.
In 2002/03 they "sat on" charging normal (i.e. very high) prices for the club-gigs because :
- they would use the gigs for the post-tour live release(s)
- it was a great promo booster.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: March 20, 2022 16:44
Quote
steadyrollinman
They could do a one-night-only Blue & Lonesome Mick-Keith-Ronnie-Darryl-Steve RAH gig...
... but they won't.
I'd go with a 50th Anniversary Exile show of the whole album.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: March 20, 2022 17:10
Quote
deeeskannnie
True; calendarwise RAH is out of the question between both London gigs.
between HP #2 and BXL, however, possibilities are there.
Moreover, I tend to think like Infamy and RisingStone stated here: that a gig there would be most likely ànd suiable after this tour - maybe even well after (like, f.i., september '22)
I don’t think the RAH show will happen right after the Stones’ summer tour finishes (i.e. early August) a la Hard Rock Live, Hollywood, FL, in 2021, either, as the venue is used for the Proms from 15 July to September 10. That’s why I assume it will be in Autumn onwards unless it happens between HP2 and BXL.
Also — whether other small gigs, i.e. clubs and theatres, happen or not is completely another matter here. The speculation surrounding the Stones’ RAH show is related to the venue’s 150th anniversary. Personally I doubt any other types of “small” gigs will happen apart from RAH this time around. Will see.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-20 17:14 by RisingStone.
Re: RAH gig
Posted by:
SomeTorontoGirl
()
Date: March 20, 2022 17:10
Quote
treaclefingers
I'd go with a 50th Anniversary Exile show of the whole album.
Yes, please!
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