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not playing 'Satisfaction' every show sounds promising (but I don't think that they have the guts to do so)

(and it's save bet to predict that they'll end up with more or less the same setlist as they always do)

Not sure if this is good or bad promo for them, considering how many people come to the show just to hear Satisfaction & co.

anyone who spends hundreds of pounds for a ticket (not to mention transport and hotels) 'just' to hear one song or to be so entitled as to think a band has to be their personal jukebox deserves to be fleeced.

and if someone doesnt hear their favourite song, what are they going to do about it? Ask for a refund? Walk out? Decide not to come back (that'll really hurt a band where the members are pushing 80 and probably wont tour Europe again..)

Worth remembering - No Security Tour 1999. By FAR their highest ever ticket prices at the time. Satisfaction dropped. Miss You dropped. Lots of deep cuts. They said in advance they'd drop a few 'classics'.

Next tour in 2002 - sell outs all round.



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not playing 'Satisfaction' every show sounds promising (but I don't think that they have the guts to do so)

(and it's save bet to predict that they'll end up with more or less the same setlist as they always do)

Not sure if this is good or bad promo for them, considering how many people come to the show just to hear Satisfaction & co.

anyone who spends hundreds of pounds for a ticket (not to mention transport and hotels) 'just' to hear one song or to be so entitled as to think a band has to be their personal jukebox deserves to be fleeced.

and if someone doesnt hear their favourite song, what are they going to do about it? Ask for a refund? Walk out? Decide not to come back (that'll really hurt a band where the members are pushing 80 and probably wont tour Europe again..)

Worth remembering - No Security Tour 1999. By FAR their highest ever ticket prices at the time. Satisfaction dropped. Miss You dropped. Lots of deep cuts. They said in advance they'd drop a few 'classics'.

Next tour in 2002 - sell outs all round.

this only true for the American part of NoSecurity. Elsewhere satisfaction was played every night.
The American part of NoSecurity was sepcial insofar as they play smaller venues than usual ('only' 15.000-20.000 capacity)

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not playing 'Satisfaction' every show sounds promising (but I don't think that they have the guts to do so)

(and it's save bet to predict that they'll end up with more or less the same setlist as they always do)

Not sure if this is good or bad promo for them, considering how many people come to the show just to hear Satisfaction & co.

anyone who spends hundreds of pounds for a ticket (not to mention transport and hotels) 'just' to hear one song or to be so entitled as to think a band has to be their personal jukebox deserves to be fleeced.

and if someone doesnt hear their favourite song, what are they going to do about it? Ask for a refund? Walk out? Decide not to come back (that'll really hurt a band where the members are pushing 80 and probably wont tour Europe again..)

Worth remembering - No Security Tour 1999. By FAR their highest ever ticket prices at the time. Satisfaction dropped. Miss You dropped. Lots of deep cuts. They said in advance they'd drop a few 'classics'.

Next tour in 2002 - sell outs all round.

this only true for the American part of NoSecurity. Elsewhere satisfaction was played every night.
The American part of NoSecurity was sepcial insofar as they play smaller venues than usual ('only' 15.000-20.000 capacity)

Sorry, but this is not right Slewan.

1. There have only been concerts in North American in the No Security Tour. The European/GB part of the tour was billed and promoted as Bridges to Babylon Tour. They even uses the B2B Stage. But they used the No Security Video Intro.

2. Satisfaction was not played on every Concert of the European/GB part. For example Stuttgart.



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not playing 'Satisfaction' every show sounds promising (but I don't think that they have the guts to do so)

(and it's save bet to predict that they'll end up with more or less the same setlist as they always do)

Not sure if this is good or bad promo for them, considering how many people come to the show just to hear Satisfaction & co.

anyone who spends hundreds of pounds for a ticket (not to mention transport and hotels) 'just' to hear one song or to be so entitled as to think a band has to be their personal jukebox deserves to be fleeced.

and if someone doesnt hear their favourite song, what are they going to do about it? Ask for a refund? Walk out? Decide not to come back (that'll really hurt a band where the members are pushing 80 and probably wont tour Europe again..)

Worth remembering - No Security Tour 1999. By FAR their highest ever ticket prices at the time. Satisfaction dropped. Miss You dropped. Lots of deep cuts. They said in advance they'd drop a few 'classics'.

Next tour in 2002 - sell outs all round.

this only true for the American part of NoSecurity. Elsewhere satisfaction was played every night.
The American part of NoSecurity was sepcial insofar as they play smaller venues than usual ('only' 15.000-20.000 capacity)

Sorry, but this is not right Slewan.

1. There have only been concerts in North American in the No Security Tour. The European/GB part of the tour was billed and promoted as Bridges to Babylon Tour. They even uses the B2B Stage. But they used the No Security Video Intro.

2. Satisfaction was not played on every Concert of the European/GB part. For example Stuttgart.

well, my mistake – I somehow counted 1998 as part of No Security, maybe because they did some shows in Europe in 1999 (that were originally planed for 1998?

anyway: the US part of No Security was not a stadium tour

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Thanks for sharing the link. Is there any option to listen to this interview? Any mp3 shared via website that I can't find?

Just look above - [iorr.org] - "The interview will be available from 10-Apr-2022, 12 noon, on [www.SWR3.de] and all popular podcast portals".

Nit sure why but can't find it. Maybe German website is too messy to manage..Unlike Swedish where the podcast was uploaded right away after the interview.

Maybe they just haven't uploaded it yet. I checked the same "Talk With Thees" podcast on Spotify and the Jagger interview is not there either.



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Maybe they just haven't uploaded it yet. I checked the same "Talk With Thees" podcast on Spotify and the Jagger interview is not there either.

Yeah...still not there. Not really reliable those Germans...

The SWR3-Podcast is now available - [www.ARDAudiothek.de] , [open.Spotify.com] , [Podcasts.Google.com] , [Podcasts.Apple.com] .



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The SWR3-Podcast is now available - [www.ARDAudiothek.de] , [open.Spotify.com] , [Podcasts.Google.com] , [Podcasts.Apple.com] .

Thanks. I was listening to it just a few minutes ago.

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not playing 'Satisfaction' every show sounds promising (but I don't think that they have the guts to do so)

(and it's save bet to predict that they'll end up with more or less the same setlist as they always do)

Not sure if this is good or bad promo for them, considering how many people come to the show just to hear Satisfaction & co.

anyone who spends hundreds of pounds for a ticket (not to mention transport and hotels) 'just' to hear one song or to be so entitled as to think a band has to be their personal jukebox deserves to be fleeced.

and if someone doesnt hear their favourite song, what are they going to do about it? Ask for a refund? Walk out? Decide not to come back (that'll really hurt a band where the members are pushing 80 and probably wont tour Europe again..)

Worth remembering - No Security Tour 1999. By FAR their highest ever ticket prices at the time. Satisfaction dropped. Miss You dropped. Lots of deep cuts. They said in advance they'd drop a few 'classics'.

Next tour in 2002 - sell outs all round.

this only true for the American part of NoSecurity. Elsewhere satisfaction was played every night.
The American part of NoSecurity was sepcial insofar as they play smaller venues than usual ('only' 15.000-20.000 capacity)

the 99 European tour was ' a stadium tour that would not have taken place at all had the band not postponed all four of their UK BTB stadium shows in 1998 for tax reasons. Obviously, the setlist for a stadium tour was going to be less daring than an arena tour.



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I was there and they did not play Satisfaction there either

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the 99 European tour was ' a stadium tour that would not have taken place at all had the band not postponed all four of their UK BTB stadium shows in 1998 for tax reasons. Obviously, the setlist for a stadium tour was going to be less daring than an arena tour.

Wasn't it postponed because Keith fell off a ladder in his library?

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the 99 European tour was ' a stadium tour that would not have taken place at all had the band not postponed all four of their UK BTB stadium shows in 1998 for tax reasons. Obviously, the setlist for a stadium tour was going to be less daring than an arena tour.

Wasn't it postponed because Keith fell off a ladder in his library?

No. Keith's accident in his library delayed the start of the European tour in 1998. It was supposed to start in Berlin, end of May.
The first dozen or so shows were postponed to later that Summer, and the first show ended up being Nuremberg mid-June.

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the 99 European tour was ' a stadium tour that would not have taken place at all had the band not postponed all four of their UK BTB stadium shows in 1998 for tax reasons. Obviously, the setlist for a stadium tour was going to be less daring than an arena tour.

Wasn't it postponed because Keith fell off a ladder in his library?

No. Keith's accident in his library delayed the start of the European tour in 1998. It was supposed to start in Berlin, end of May.
The first dozen or so shows were postponed to later that Summer, and the first show ended up being Nuremberg mid-June.

Ah, thanks for clarifying!

It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

From the tour schedule it was clear after the announcement that Munich and Gelsenkirchen are the two shows and that there isn't any space for a third German show to be announced later.

I think we in Germany are absolutely spoiled when it comes to Stones shows since 2014. No other mainland European country gets as many different towns as Germany does.

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

In 2014 there hasn't been a concert in the South of Germany
In 2018 there hasn't been a concert in the West of Germany
In 2022 there won't been a concert in the Nort/East of Germany

Nothing to moan about

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

Germany is a small country.
Me and many travelled moonlight miles across the planet to see them.
And you only saw them a bikeride or footwalk away since 40 years?
And you are going to miss them because you refuse to drive 5-6 hours with the car??

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

Germany is a small country.
Me and many travelled moonlight miles across the planet to see them.
And you only saw them a bikeride or footwalk away since 40 years?
And you are going to miss them because you refuse to drive 5-6 hours with the car??

Germany isn't that small but railway connections are very good (in contrast to the UK as well as the US)

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

Germany is a small country.
Me and many travelled moonlight miles across the planet to see them.
And you only saw them a bikeride or footwalk away since 40 years?
And you are going to miss them because you refuse to drive 5-6 hours with the car??

Germany isn't that small but railway connections are very good (in contrast to the UK as well as the US)

Small or not small is relative. Compared to how far some people from Sweden or Norway have to travel to see a concert in Stockholm or Oslo it is. Also depending where you are in Germany it's relatively easy (and often even cheaper because of the ticket prices) to just see them in the Neighbor countries. Amsterdam, Brussels, Vienna...

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

Germany is a small country.
Me and many travelled moonlight miles across the planet to see them.
And you only saw them a bikeride or footwalk away since 40 years?
And you are going to miss them because you refuse to drive 5-6 hours with the car??

Germany isn't that small but railway connections are very good (in contrast to the UK as well as the US)

Small or not small is relative. Compared to how far some people from Sweden or Norway have to travel to see a concert in Stockholm or Oslo it is. Also depending where you are in Germany it's relatively easy (and often even cheaper because of the ticket prices) to just see them in the Neighbor countries. Amsterdam, Brussels, Vienna...

Perhaps it's an issue of cost, so I get that, but if it isn't then travelling a bit to go to see 'your band' is a bit of the adventure. ROAD TRIP!

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

Germany is a small country.
Me and many travelled moonlight miles across the planet to see them.
And you only saw them a bikeride or footwalk away since 40 years?
And you are going to miss them because you refuse to drive 5-6 hours with the car??

Germany isn't that small but railway connections are very good (in contrast to the UK as well as the US)

Small or not small is relative. Compared to how far some people from Sweden or Norway have to travel to see a concert in Stockholm or Oslo it is. Also depending where you are in Germany it's relatively easy (and often even cheaper because of the ticket prices) to just see them in the Neighbor countries. Amsterdam, Brussels, Vienna...

Perhaps it's an issue of cost, so I get that, but if it isn't then travelling a bit to go to see 'your band' is a bit of the adventure. ROAD TRIP!

Think of those who live in Sicily, who must go to Milan (almost 1500 km) to see them !!!

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It seems, that there won't be a show in the north or east part of Germany.
I was hoping for something to come but it didn't. It's the first time, this happens and it's very disappointing for us in the north and east.
The first tour without me going since I started in 1982.

Germany is a small country.
Me and many travelled moonlight miles across the planet to see them.
And you only saw them a bikeride or footwalk away since 40 years?
And you are going to miss them because you refuse to drive 5-6 hours with the car??

Travel, Hotel, Time.
I don't refuse. I simply can't afford.
I used to travel to see them many times. Think before you judge.

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the 99 European tour was ' a stadium tour that would not have taken place at all had the band not postponed all four of their UK BTB stadium shows in 1998 for tax reasons. Obviously, the setlist for a stadium tour was going to be less daring than an arena tour.

Wasn't it postponed because Keith fell off a ladder in his library?

No. Keith's accident in his library delayed the start of the European tour in 1998. It was supposed to start in Berlin, end of May.
The first dozen or so shows were postponed to later that Summer, and the first show ended up being Nuremberg mid-June.

Ah, thanks for clarifying!

That 1998 tour was bloody jinxed. Especially at the start. Keith's accident causing the first 3-4 weeks of shows to be postponed and having to be rescheduled (some of the shows were just cancelled, I think), other shows postponed/cancelled when Mick had a sore throat, the UK tour being pulled in early June for tax reasons and then poor ticket sales in France due to the World Cup being held there causing all but one of the shows there to be cancelled (I think maybe one or two were cancelled due to Mick or Keith's health problems but when it came to rescheduling, they just cancelled some of the poorer selling ones). In the end, the only French show of the six (?) that were planned was Paris - and THAT was originally supposed to be two shows with the cancelled show being scheduled for Mick's birthday. As I recall, all the tickets were valid for the show that DID take place, leading to a very crammed Stade de France!



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not playing 'Satisfaction' every show sounds promising (but I don't think that they have the guts to do so)

(and it's save bet to predict that they'll end up with more or less the same setlist as they always do)

Not sure if this is good or bad promo for them, considering how many people come to the show just to hear Satisfaction & co.

anyone who spends hundreds of pounds for a ticket (not to mention transport and hotels) 'just' to hear one song or to be so entitled as to think a band has to be their personal jukebox deserves to be fleeced.

and if someone doesnt hear their favourite song, what are they going to do about it? Ask for a refund? Walk out? Decide not to come back (that'll really hurt a band where the members are pushing 80 and probably wont tour Europe again..)

Worth remembering - No Security Tour 1999. By FAR their highest ever ticket prices at the time. Satisfaction dropped. Miss You dropped. Lots of deep cuts. They said in advance they'd drop a few 'classics'.

Next tour in 2002 - sell outs all round.

this only true for the American part of NoSecurity. Elsewhere satisfaction was played every night.
The American part of NoSecurity was sepcial insofar as they play smaller venues than usual ('only' 15.000-20.000 capacity)

Sorry, but this is not right Slewan.

1. There have only been concerts in North American in the No Security Tour. The European/GB part of the tour was billed and promoted as Bridges to Babylon Tour. They even uses the B2B Stage. But they used the No Security Video Intro.

2. Satisfaction was not played on every Concert of the European/GB part. For example Stuttgart.

well, my mistake – I somehow counted 1998 as part of No Security, maybe because they did some shows in Europe in 1999 (that were originally planed for 1998?

anyway: the US part of No Security was not a stadium tour

The size of the venue doesn't matter - they didn't play Satisfaction during the 1970, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1978, a few club gigs pre-1995 Euro tour, 1999 and mostly small venues but also arenas during LICKS tours.

Since 2005.. different story. But post-1969, a lot of tours with guts.

So NOW you like guts, do you, GasLightStreet? When I wrote that I wanted to hear three songs from Keith´s solo albums, when he played live recently - you told me to go and follow another band. I should not complain. Shame on me.

Strange. But fine with me. So what band are you going to follow now?

nobody uses guts anymore, nylon maybe but that's also going out of style

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nobody uses guts anymore, nylon maybe but that's also going out of style

Well when they went with the oversized rackets, it put a lot of pressure on the supply of guts.

It's simple economics.

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nobody uses guts anymore, nylon maybe but that's also going out of style

Well when they went with the oversized rackets, it put a lot of pressure on the supply of guts.

It's simple economics.

Well it was good for one thing, I read somewhere it's considered the most sonically satisfying sport

For people who know these stadiums and cities, if you could choose one, maybe two shows at most, which would you choose based on the stadium and city? Still trying to make at least one trip happen and personally I'm thinking Lyon cuz would love to go wine-tasting in Bordeaux, but open to your knowledgeable suggestions!