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I certainly remember it. And thinking it when I heard a King Biscuit replay of a '78 concert.
So... is there a link? What you were thinking in 1978 doesn't exactly equate to the term. So if the term was used and you heard it on a King Biscuit replay of a 1978 show... please share.
There was nothing Vegas about them then. Way far away from that still.
It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
King Biscuit never had any 1975 or 1976 material.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Specialy the first 3 weeks !!
I think it’s fantastic from beginning to end. In fact, way back in the 80’s when I was a freshman in high school, our art teacher allowed us all to bring in our favorite album to play during class. It was a really hard decision but went with LYL side 3/4. I loved all the warhorses but was also really into Crackin Uo and Around and Around. My classmates seemed a bit surprised when Mannish Boy started playing. They definitely didn’t know side 3, but I think they liked it
Really? The 1975 L.A. Forum show, the only representation we have, was lackluster at best. From '69 to '89, I'd say it was their weakest American tour.
The released LA Friday show (7/13) is superb, one of their best ever shows.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-09-26 16:20 by Taylor1.
Actually not if you look at the old thread [iorr.org]
Ironically Sam Wheat did some excellent mixes in the beginning, the Hyde Park one was also excellent. Then somehow he must have got deaf
Not official but your E-mail is hidden...
Now THAT would have been an item to have in the collection!!!! When they have their sale again this year (I'm assuming they do it annually?), I'm going to grab all the ones they still have that I'm missing still. Going to be a pretty penny, but dammit, I gotta fill in the gaps!!!
[wardrecords.com]
You must be extremely lucky to get one on the secondary market.
See Here:
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El Mocambo was first mentioned from the 40x5 tributo bar but this time no real hint what it could be!
My bet is Wiltern 2002
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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Date: September 15, 2022 22:12
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Expanding on what Doxa said, it is a pity that El Mocambo wasn't released in total, in place of Love You Live. LYL is what started the whole 'Vegas' Stones talk. It felt contrived, and lacked excitement. El Mocambo brought them back to that compressed feeling of being on a small stage. (Something they replicated with good effect with Sticky Fingers at the Fonda).
LYL was from 1975 and '76 shows. The Stones had already moved past that sound to a leaner, more muscular sound on El Mocambo. And Ronnie was totally integrated by 1977.
I've never seen/heard it that way ie Vegas. Upon a few years later, it was the 1989-90 tours that started the Vegas bit.
I first heard the Vegas Stones reference in the late 70s. And LYL is what kicked it off. SFTD and IORR are mediocre at best. We just got El Mocambo, and didn't get Live in Texas until 2011, so the general Stones public had nothing to compare it to.
The 'Vegas' reference didn't even exist in the late 1970's.
Mathijs
I certainly remember it. And thinking it when I heard a King Biscuit replay of a '78 concert.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
Taylor1
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Date: September 15, 2022 22:52
Iprefer the 1975 tour over the so called punk tour of 1978. LYL is mostly 1976. Keith was great on the 1975 tour, but on the 1976 tour he seemed really wasted.But still quite good.Quote
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The difference between LYL and Live In Texas is essentially that they are respectively pre and post "Punk " .
The Stones "moving with the times and fashions "...which they've usualy been quite good at .
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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GasLightStreet
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Date: September 16, 2022 05:02
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Expanding on what Doxa said, it is a pity that El Mocambo wasn't released in total, in place of Love You Live. LYL is what started the whole 'Vegas' Stones talk. It felt contrived, and lacked excitement. El Mocambo brought them back to that compressed feeling of being on a small stage. (Something they replicated with good effect with Sticky Fingers at the Fonda).
LYL was from 1975 and '76 shows. The Stones had already moved past that sound to a leaner, more muscular sound on El Mocambo. And Ronnie was totally integrated by 1977.
I've never seen/heard it that way ie Vegas. Upon a few years later, it was the 1989-90 tours that started the Vegas bit.
I first heard the Vegas Stones reference in the late 70s. And LYL is what kicked it off. SFTD and IORR are mediocre at best. We just got El Mocambo, and didn't get Live in Texas until 2011, so the general Stones public had nothing to compare it to.
The 'Vegas' reference didn't even exist in the late 1970's.
Mathijs
I certainly remember it. And thinking it when I heard a King Biscuit replay of a '78 concert.
So... is there a link? What you were thinking in 1978 doesn't exactly equate to the term. So if the term was used and you heard it on a King Biscuit replay of a 1978 show... please share.
There was nothing Vegas about them then. Way far away from that still.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
24FPS
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Date: September 17, 2022 03:07
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Expanding on what Doxa said, it is a pity that El Mocambo wasn't released in total, in place of Love You Live. LYL is what started the whole 'Vegas' Stones talk. It felt contrived, and lacked excitement. El Mocambo brought them back to that compressed feeling of being on a small stage. (Something they replicated with good effect with Sticky Fingers at the Fonda).
LYL was from 1975 and '76 shows. The Stones had already moved past that sound to a leaner, more muscular sound on El Mocambo. And Ronnie was totally integrated by 1977.
I've never seen/heard it that way ie Vegas. Upon a few years later, it was the 1989-90 tours that started the Vegas bit.
I first heard the Vegas Stones reference in the late 70s. And LYL is what kicked it off. SFTD and IORR are mediocre at best. We just got El Mocambo, and didn't get Live in Texas until 2011, so the general Stones public had nothing to compare it to.
The 'Vegas' reference didn't even exist in the late 1970's.
Mathijs
I certainly remember it. And thinking it when I heard a King Biscuit replay of a '78 concert.
So... is there a link? What you were thinking in 1978 doesn't exactly equate to the term. So if the term was used and you heard it on a King Biscuit replay of a 1978 show... please share.
There was nothing Vegas about them then. Way far away from that still.
It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Date: September 17, 2022 17:09
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Expanding on what Doxa said, it is a pity that El Mocambo wasn't released in total, in place of Love You Live. LYL is what started the whole 'Vegas' Stones talk. It felt contrived, and lacked excitement. El Mocambo brought them back to that compressed feeling of being on a small stage. (Something they replicated with good effect with Sticky Fingers at the Fonda).
LYL was from 1975 and '76 shows. The Stones had already moved past that sound to a leaner, more muscular sound on El Mocambo. And Ronnie was totally integrated by 1977.
I've never seen/heard it that way ie Vegas. Upon a few years later, it was the 1989-90 tours that started the Vegas bit.
I first heard the Vegas Stones reference in the late 70s. And LYL is what kicked it off. SFTD and IORR are mediocre at best. We just got El Mocambo, and didn't get Live in Texas until 2011, so the general Stones public had nothing to compare it to.
The 'Vegas' reference didn't even exist in the late 1970's.
Mathijs
I certainly remember it. And thinking it when I heard a King Biscuit replay of a '78 concert.
So... is there a link? What you were thinking in 1978 doesn't exactly equate to the term. So if the term was used and you heard it on a King Biscuit replay of a 1978 show... please share.
There was nothing Vegas about them then. Way far away from that still.
It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
King Biscuit never had any 1975 or 1976 material.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Mathijs
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Date: September 19, 2022 14:31
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24FPS
It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Date: September 19, 2022 16:58
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It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Specialy the first 3 weeks !!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
Taylor1
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Date: September 19, 2022 17:27
Keith and Ronnie were great on that tour.Quote
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24FPS
It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Specialy the first 3 weeks !!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
StonedRambler
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Date: September 19, 2022 17:31
The band (especially with Billy Preston and Ollie Brown) was groovin' the hell out of that tour! Only Mick with his cocaine-vocals was the weak link...
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-09-19 18:09 by StonedRambler.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-09-19 18:09 by StonedRambler.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
TrulyMicks1
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Date: September 24, 2022 15:02
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Love You Live is a great live album. Not sure why some people dislike it. Best live versions of SFTD and IORR. Just a shame Hey Negrita wasn't included.
I think it’s fantastic from beginning to end. In fact, way back in the 80’s when I was a freshman in high school, our art teacher allowed us all to bring in our favorite album to play during class. It was a really hard decision but went with LYL side 3/4. I loved all the warhorses but was also really into Crackin Uo and Around and Around. My classmates seemed a bit surprised when Mannish Boy started playing. They definitely didn’t know side 3, but I think they liked it
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Rockman
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Date: September 24, 2022 23:51
I do hope that Ollie's
mum chose the right gal for him .....
ROCKMAN
mum chose the right gal for him .....
ROCKMAN
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Date: September 24, 2022 23:55
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It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Really? The 1975 L.A. Forum show, the only representation we have, was lackluster at best. From '69 to '89, I'd say it was their weakest American tour.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Mathijs
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Date: September 26, 2022 12:37
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It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Really? The 1975 L.A. Forum show, the only representation we have, was lackluster at best. From '69 to '89, I'd say it was their weakest American tour.
The released LA Friday show (7/13) is superb, one of their best ever shows.
Mathijs
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
Paul Kersey
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Date: September 26, 2022 13:04
The 1975 tour is one of the best tours they did. Had everything I love about the Stones. I'd love an official release from the beginning of the tour.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
liddas
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Date: September 26, 2022 13:40
I know I state the obvious, but there is not such a thing as a bad Stones tour.
And if there ever was one, for sure that's not the 75 tour!!!
C
And if there ever was one, for sure that's not the 75 tour!!!
C
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Taylor1
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Date: September 26, 2022 14:24
1975 is a fantastic tourQuote
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It might have been a replay of '75 concert, where they indeed did not sound impressive. I don't know about Europe '76, but '75 was truly uninspired.
What a load of bollocks, the 1975 tour was fantastic, truly a magnificent tour.
Mathijs
Really? The 1975 L.A. Forum show, the only representation we have, was lackluster at best. From '69 to '89, I'd say it was their weakest American tour.
The released LA Friday show (7/13) is superb, one of their best ever shows.
Mathijs
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-09-26 16:20 by Taylor1.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: September 26, 2022 15:07
<The 1975 L.A. Forum show, the only representation we have>
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Date: September 26, 2022 15:17
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As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.[/quote
The japanese deluxe edition got both shows on CDs. And for the July 13 show you can even choose between a Bob Clearmountain and a Sam Wheat mix. Honestly here I prefer the Sam Wheat mix.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Date: September 26, 2022 15:41
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DandelionPowderman
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.[/quote
The japanese deluxe edition got both shows on CDs. And for the July 13 show you can even choose between a Bob Clearmountain and a Sam Wheat mix. Honestly here I prefer the Sam Wheat mix.
That's a first!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Mathijs
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Date: September 26, 2022 16:12
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DandelionPowderman
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.[/quote
The japanese deluxe edition got both shows on CDs. And for the July 13 show you can even choose between a Bob Clearmountain and a Sam Wheat mix. Honestly here I prefer the Sam Wheat mix.
That's a first!
Is the DVD show as released on CD downloadable somewhere?
Mathijs
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
hockenheim95
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Date: September 26, 2022 16:14
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DandelionPowderman
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.
The japanese deluxe edition got both shows on CDs. And for the July 13 show you can even choose between a Bob Clearmountain and a Sam Wheat mix. Honestly here I prefer the Sam Wheat mix.
That's a first!
Actually not if you look at the old thread [iorr.org]
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
StonedRambler
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Date: September 26, 2022 16:16
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DandelionPowderman
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.
The japanese deluxe edition got both shows on CDs. And for the July 13 show you can even choose between a Bob Clearmountain and a Sam Wheat mix. Honestly here I prefer the Sam Wheat mix.
That's a first!
Actually not if you look at the old thread [iorr.org]
Ironically Sam Wheat did some excellent mixes in the beginning, the Hyde Park one was also excellent. Then somehow he must have got deaf
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
hockenheim95
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Date: September 26, 2022 16:18
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DandelionPowderman
As you know, we got two shows on the From The Vault-release. One on the album, and another one on the DVD.
The japanese deluxe edition got both shows on CDs. And for the July 13 show you can even choose between a Bob Clearmountain and a Sam Wheat mix. Honestly here I prefer the Sam Wheat mix.
That's a first!
Is the DVD show as released on CD downloadable somewhere?
Mathijs
Not official but your E-mail is hidden...
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
UrbanSteel
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Date: September 26, 2022 16:28
The Japanese Silver Bonus CDs
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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VoodooLounge13
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Date: September 26, 2022 16:50
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The Japanese Silver Bonus CDs
Now THAT would have been an item to have in the collection!!!! When they have their sale again this year (I'm assuming they do it annually?), I'm going to grab all the ones they still have that I'm missing still. Going to be a pretty penny, but dammit, I gotta fill in the gaps!!!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
ironbelly
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Date: September 26, 2022 19:21
Hate to tell you, but you will not be able to do that. These extra CDs were in big fancy box WRDZZ-163 which is sold out for awhile.Quote
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UrbanSteel
The Japanese Silver Bonus CDs
Now THAT would have been an item to have in the collection!!!! When they have their sale again this year (I'm assuming they do it annually?), I'm going to grab all the ones they still have that I'm missing still. Going to be a pretty penny, but dammit, I gotta fill in the gaps!!!
[wardrecords.com]
You must be extremely lucky to get one on the secondary market.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
VoodooLounge13
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Date: September 26, 2022 21:53
Yes, I know this one is gone, but there are still several others that I don't have that I can pick up. That's what I'd meant. I've bought some from them over the years, but they get pricey fast, so I've only bought a couple at a time.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
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Mathijs
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Date: September 29, 2022 16:56
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-10-01 13:52 by Mathijs.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
ironbelly
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Date: September 29, 2022 17:42
A strange message at Steve Hoffman's music forum
[forums.stevehoffman.tv]
________
TributoBar posted a message claiming the release of another live show, coupled with a Love you Live image.
Time for Paris/Knebworth 76 to pair with El Mocambo?
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[forums.stevehoffman.tv]
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TributoBar posted a message claiming the release of another live show, coupled with a Love you Live image.
Time for Paris/Knebworth 76 to pair with El Mocambo?
________
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2022-09-29 17:43 by ironbelly.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at the El Mocambo
Posted by:
hockenheim95
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Date: September 29, 2022 18:22
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ironbelly
A strange message at Steve Hoffman's music forum
[forums.stevehoffman.tv]
________
TributoBar posted a message claiming the release of another live show, coupled with a Love you Live image.
Time for Paris/Knebworth 76 to pair with El Mocambo?
________
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El Mocambo was first mentioned from the 40x5 tributo bar but this time no real hint what it could be!
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