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Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
Mocambo? Overdubbed on March 6-8 1977.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Supposedly, that was the norm of the time. One track for the audience, even though they only had two tracks to work with
Ronnie added at least two guitars to his live take
Tho' I doubt it was a norm to use a 100% studio recording as the backingtrack, apart from on TV appearances
Yeah, those two songs were unnecessary. Good tracks on compilations, without the audience noise, but they should never have been included on GLIYWI.
Instead of performing "Sticky Fingers Live at the Fonda", they should just have just released the studio album with an audience track.
Think of the time and effort they wasted!
I got that backwards! Not sure why.
no i feel this is probably a separate release
Why not use a sketch by Charlie?
i'm open to that
Elmocambo - I like that!
Absolutely. This should not be buried in a deluxe set.
The tongue and lips logo! Maybe shades of one solid color!
With a patch over one eye, the "Patience Please, A Drug Free Canada (sic) First" poster, a Marlboro sticking out of his mouth, and a "Coke" patch sewed on the mountie red serge uniform (the actual name of the jacket).
slapping himself awake
No doubt Mocambo is the main dish. If accompany with extra bonus CD, it should be Keith & Stu's Toronto sessions in complete and well restored.
Both are happened in same month, and this package can light up their ups & downs at that time.
No solo project in a Rolling Stones album.
This and it would feel strange to put in the same package a concert where the band is bouncy and energic with a gloomy solo recording of a man allegedly at his lowest.
Both are very valied points. I don't think anything would fit together with El Mocambo audio. The closest one could get is Knebworth 1976 DVD/blueray, mainly because of the setlist, but even that wouldn't be really right. Knebworth shows them very tired tho' speeded up by chemicals, very different from Toronto 1977. Not that would mind a Knebworth DVD myself, but I'm not expecting it.
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Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
dcba
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Date: February 25, 2022 10:43
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GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
Mocambo? Overdubbed on March 6-8 1977.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
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Date: February 25, 2022 10:59
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dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: February 25, 2022 11:16
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Erik_SnowQuote
dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Supposedly, that was the norm of the time. One track for the audience, even though they only had two tracks to work with
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
schwonek
()
Date: February 25, 2022 11:19
eg Crackin up. I hear that another guitar was added but I also think the Mick maybe recorded some new vocals.
Original recording:
[www.youtube.com]
Duration: 5:00 minutes (and his track is even faster!)
LYL time: 3:50 minutes
So they cut 1:10 minute
Original recording:
[www.youtube.com]
Duration: 5:00 minutes (and his track is even faster!)
LYL time: 3:50 minutes
So they cut 1:10 minute
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: February 25, 2022 11:36
Quote
schwonek
eg Crackin up. I hear that another guitar was added but I also think the Mick maybe recorded some new vocals.
Original recording:
[www.youtube.com]
Duration: 5:00 minutes (and his track is even faster!)
LYL time: 3:50 minutes
So they cut 1:10 minute
Ronnie added at least two guitars to his live take
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
()
Date: February 25, 2022 11:37
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DandelionPowdermanQuote
Erik_SnowQuote
dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Supposedly, that was the norm of the time. One track for the audience, even though they only had two tracks to work with
Tho' I doubt it was a norm to use a 100% studio recording as the backingtrack, apart from on TV appearances
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: February 25, 2022 12:18
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Erik_SnowQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
Erik_SnowQuote
dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Supposedly, that was the norm of the time. One track for the audience, even though they only had two tracks to work with
Tho' I doubt it was a norm to use a 100% studio recording as the backingtrack, apart from on TV appearances
Yeah, those two songs were unnecessary. Good tracks on compilations, without the audience noise, but they should never have been included on GLIYWI.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: February 25, 2022 16:31
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Erik_SnowQuote
dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Instead of performing "Sticky Fingers Live at the Fonda", they should just have just released the studio album with an audience track.
Think of the time and effort they wasted!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: February 25, 2022 16:58
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treaclefingersQuote
Erik_SnowQuote
dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
But as early as 1966, they did something more clever, when they simply overdubbed an audience instead!
Instead of performing "Sticky Fingers Live at the Fonda", they should just have just released the studio 8-track-album with an audience track.
Think of the time and effort they wasted!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: February 26, 2022 06:47
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dcbaQuote
GasLightStreet
Have they ever touched up any live release? Obviously not the big label live releases.
Nico's site shows they always overdubbed the live tapes from the tour they had just finished : 1969? Overdubbed. 1972? Overdubbed.
Mocambo? Overdubbed on March 6-8 1977.
I got that backwards! Not sure why.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: February 28, 2022 02:50
ok so what do we want the cover art to look like
something simple that incorporates the images from the show
or something that's maybe a little more imaginative like a take on warhol's cover for love you live
normally i wouldn't really care but this isn't just any release and i would like it to sound good and look good too if possible
something simple that incorporates the images from the show
or something that's maybe a little more imaginative like a take on warhol's cover for love you live
normally i wouldn't really care but this isn't just any release and i would like it to sound good and look good too if possible
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Ross
()
Date: February 28, 2022 03:35
Do we think this is a 45th anniversary Love You Live super deluxe edition? Maybe remixed with bonus tracks, and the Elmocambo show(s) as bonus discs? That would make for an incredible package!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: February 28, 2022 03:58
Quote
Ross
Do we think this is a 45th anniversary Love You Live super deluxe edition? Maybe remixed with bonus tracks, and the Elmocambo show(s) as bonus discs? That would make for an incredible package!
no i feel this is probably a separate release
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
schwonek
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Date: February 28, 2022 13:59
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ProfessorWolf
ok so what do we want the cover art to look like
something simple that incorporates the images from the show
or something that's maybe a little more imaginative like a take on warhol's cover for love you live
normally i wouldn't really care but this isn't just any release and i would like it to sound good and look good too if possible
Why not use a sketch by Charlie?
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: February 28, 2022 19:33
Quote
schwonekQuote
ProfessorWolf
ok so what do we want the cover art to look like
something simple that incorporates the images from the show
or something that's maybe a little more imaginative like a take on warhol's cover for love you live
normally i wouldn't really care but this isn't just any release and i would like it to sound good and look good too if possible
Why not use a sketch by Charlie?
i'm open to that
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Elmo Lewis
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Date: March 1, 2022 01:53
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Ross
Do we think this is a 45th anniversary Love You Live super deluxe edition? Maybe remixed with bonus tracks, and the Elmocambo show(s) as bonus discs? That would make for an incredible package!
Elmocambo - I like that!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: March 1, 2022 01:59
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ProfessorWolfQuote
Ross
Do we think this is a 45th anniversary Love You Live super deluxe edition? Maybe remixed with bonus tracks, and the Elmocambo show(s) as bonus discs? That would make for an incredible package!
no i feel this is probably a separate release
Absolutely. This should not be buried in a deluxe set.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Rocky Dijon
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Date: March 1, 2022 03:25
Quote
ProfessorWolf
ok so what do we want the cover art to look like
The tongue and lips logo! Maybe shades of one solid color!
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: March 1, 2022 03:47
Keef dressed as a Mountie ....
ROCKMAN
ROCKMAN
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
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Date: March 1, 2022 03:51
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: March 1, 2022 03:54
Holdin' a guitar while sittin
on the back of a snarling husky .....
got one like that DDDD
ROCKMAN
on the back of a snarling husky .....
got one like that DDDD
ROCKMAN
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
treaclefingers
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Date: March 1, 2022 03:54
Quote
Rockman
Keef dressed as a Mountie ....
With a patch over one eye, the "Patience Please, A Drug Free Canada (sic) First" poster, a Marlboro sticking out of his mouth, and a "Coke" patch sewed on the mountie red serge uniform (the actual name of the jacket).
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
()
Date: March 1, 2022 04:48
Quote
Rockman
Keef dressed as a Mountie ....
slapping himself awake
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: March 1, 2022 11:08
Ken Regan's pictures from both nights are incredible so let's use them.
A 10000 words essay by Margaret Trudeau would be swell too
(just kidding).
A 10000 words essay by Margaret Trudeau would be swell too
(just kidding).
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
pooroldgrandad
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Date: March 1, 2022 11:37
Quote
treaclefingersQuote
ProfessorWolfQuote
Ross
Do we think this is a 45th anniversary Love You Live super deluxe edition? Maybe remixed with bonus tracks, and the Elmocambo show(s) as bonus discs? That would make for an incredible package!
no i feel this is probably a separate release
Absolutely. This should not be buried in a deluxe set.
No doubt Mocambo is the main dish. If accompany with extra bonus CD, it should be Keith & Stu's Toronto sessions in complete and well restored.
Both are happened in same month, and this package can light up their ups & downs at that time.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
UrbanSteel
()
Date: March 1, 2022 12:33
Quote
pooroldgrandadQuote
treaclefingersQuote
ProfessorWolfQuote
Ross
Do we think this is a 45th anniversary Love You Live super deluxe edition? Maybe remixed with bonus tracks, and the Elmocambo show(s) as bonus discs? That would make for an incredible package!
no i feel this is probably a separate release
Absolutely. This should not be buried in a deluxe set.
No doubt Mocambo is the main dish. If accompany with extra bonus CD, it should be Keith & Stu's Toronto sessions in complete and well restored.
Both are happened in same month, and this package can light up their ups & downs at that time.
No solo project in a Rolling Stones album.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
dcba
()
Date: March 1, 2022 14:26
Quote
UrbanSteel
No solo project in a Rolling Stones album.
This and it would feel strange to put in the same package a concert where the band is bouncy and energic with a gloomy solo recording of a man allegedly at his lowest.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
Erik_Snow
()
Date: March 1, 2022 17:54
Quote
dcbaQuote
UrbanSteel
No solo project in a Rolling Stones album.
This and it would feel strange to put in the same package a concert where the band is bouncy and energic with a gloomy solo recording of a man allegedly at his lowest.
Both are very valied points. I don't think anything would fit together with El Mocambo audio. The closest one could get is Knebworth 1976 DVD/blueray, mainly because of the setlist, but even that wouldn't be really right. Knebworth shows them very tired tho' speeded up by chemicals, very different from Toronto 1977. Not that would mind a Knebworth DVD myself, but I'm not expecting it.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
illyad1960
()
Date: March 1, 2022 19:12
Does anyone have the set list from both shows? I went to setlist.fm to view the songs. There was some question to its accuracy as no one who was at the El Macombo that night have yet to confirm it.
Re: The Rolling Stones Live at El Mocambo to be released
Posted by:
boogaloojef
()
Date: March 1, 2022 19:57
from Nico's site
[www.nzentgraf.de]
I believe Eddie Kramer said in a past interview some of the tapes were damaged.
From Felix Aeppli's page
1 Route 66 (Troup)
2 All Down The Line
3 Around And Around (Berry)
4 Brown Sugar
5 Crazy Mama
6 Dance Little Sister
7 Fool To Cry
8 Hand Of Fate
9 Honky Tonk Women
10 Hot Stuff
11 It’s Only Rock ‘n Roll
12 Jumpin’ Jack Flash
13 Let’s Spend The Night Together
14 Little Red Rooster (Dixon)
15 Mannish Boy (McDaniel, Morganfield)
16 Crackin’ Up (McDaniel)
17 Melody
18 Star Star
19 Luxury
20 Tumbling Dice
21 Worried About You
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-01 20:01 by boogaloojef.
[www.nzentgraf.de]
I believe Eddie Kramer said in a past interview some of the tapes were damaged.
From Felix Aeppli's page
1 Route 66 (Troup)
2 All Down The Line
3 Around And Around (Berry)
4 Brown Sugar
5 Crazy Mama
6 Dance Little Sister
7 Fool To Cry
8 Hand Of Fate
9 Honky Tonk Women
10 Hot Stuff
11 It’s Only Rock ‘n Roll
12 Jumpin’ Jack Flash
13 Let’s Spend The Night Together
14 Little Red Rooster (Dixon)
15 Mannish Boy (McDaniel, Morganfield)
16 Crackin’ Up (McDaniel)
17 Melody
18 Star Star
19 Luxury
20 Tumbling Dice
21 Worried About You
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-03-01 20:01 by boogaloojef.
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