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Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: schillid ()
Date: May 7, 2022 02:17




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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2022-05-07 02:28 by schillid.

Dolly Parton On Her Plans To Work With Mick Jagger And The Rolling Stones
Posted by: gagiwh ()
Date: May 9, 2022 01:28

Dolly Parton recently joined Billboard for an interview and revealed that she plans to collaborate with Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones for her next record.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominated 17 artists this year, with Duran Duran, A Tribe Called Quest, Eminem, Lionel Richie, Carly Simon, Beck, Kate Bush, and Judas Priest among the nominees. Dolly Parton was also one of the nominees for this year’s Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction, but she withdrew from the nomination since she felt she wasn’t a rock star.

Parton elaborated on her thoughts on withdrawing from the Rock Hall nomination in an Instagram post. In the post, the musician stated that she didn’t earn that spot, and she didn’t want the votes to be split. However, Parton also excited the music fans by revealing that this incident inspired her to make a rock and roll album in the future. Later, Parton accepted to be among the nominees due to ballots in favor of her induction.

In a new Billboard interview, Parton talked about her upcoming record and revealed her thoughts on Mick Jagger. She then stated that she hopes to have Jagger sing with her with the Stones playing behind her.

Moreover, Parton revealed that she plans to make an album for which she would collaborate with different rock bands and classic bands backing her on some songs. According to the musician, she will release a rock album in the future after this induction to Rock Hall, and it might be titled ‘Rock Star!’

Speaking to Billboard, Dolly Parton said about Mick Jagger the following:

“I loved him, and I love ‘Satisfaction.’ I’m hoping we’re both around long enough when I get to do this record that he’ll come to sing with me, and I may have to use The Rolling Stones to play behind me. I might do something like that — try to get some different rock bands, some of the classic bands, to back me on some of the songs I do and then do two or three or four originals.

I want to get in with some of the great rock groups and do some things, [but] I’ve been working so hard on so many things, and I’ve got to overcome this so-called controversy, which I never meant it to be that. So now I’m in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. So I’m going to have to do a rock album at some point. … Now I may have to call my album ‘Rock Star!'”

After Dolly Parton’s withdrawal from the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame nomination, some rock musicians showed her some support for this decision. Heart’s Ann Wilson described this act as a beautiful response while Dee Snider thanked her. Although Parton is now among the nominees again, she plans to make a rock album to deserve that spot.

[rockcelebrities.net]

Re: Dolly Parton On Her Plans To Work With Mick Jagger And The Rolling Stones
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: May 9, 2022 02:58

Dolly may end up as the savior of rock and roll some day....get bands like the Stones to back her on a tune, maybe Macca and his band on a tune, maybe even The Who...and Jerry Lee Lewis on vocals and piano...
And maybe get guitarists such as Clapton, Jeff Beck, and even Jimmy Page involved...also a duet with Neil Young...maybe even Robert Plant...perhaps Dylan would like to collaborate with Dolly...the skies the limit...

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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......

OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: May 9, 2022 21:37

This year's inductees got a mention on SNL's Weekend Update:




Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Reduced to Participation Trophy?
Posted by: stonesstein ()
Date: November 7, 2022 14:41

Judas Priest, Eminem, Duran Duran, Carly Simon, Harry Belafonte, Eurythmics, Dolly Parton, Pat Benatar, and Lionel Ritchie? Each has hits and are/were very talented, but am I the only one who thinks that this thing called the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is reducing itself to giving away "participation trophies"?

Some of the foregoing, like Eminem, Belafonte, & Parton clearly belong in some genre's Hall somewhere, because each changed the face of popular music in some manner so as to make the average person take notice, even if the average person was not a particular fan of these artists' genre.

This is hardly the case for some of the others inducted such as Benetar, Eurythmics, Duran Duran, and Simon. While high-selling popular artists for a portion of one decade or another, these artists' career impact(s) pale in comparison to (what I perceive ought to be) the kind of act that belongs in a Hall of Fame. They are not Chuck Berry, the Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Elvis Presley, or Pink Floyd. Thus, it seems to me that the welcomed conspicuity that comes with one having been elected to the Hall of Fame has clearly paled in recent years when more and more acts are included (because the ceremony and the TV right thereto "sell"!) until what we now have is the (former) accolade now having been watered-down to its present status as a "participation trophy."

Sure, this is only my opinion. Still, as a Rolling Stones fan, it makes me sad, sad, sad.


stonesstein

Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972

Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Reduced to Participation Trophy?
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: November 7, 2022 16:42

I tend to agree, almost a longevity trophy as well for just surviving.

The original inductees we're almost universally accepted, much of the latter years were more polarizing figures. Which some could argue I suppose rock & roll should be.

Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Reduced to Participation Trophy?
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: November 7, 2022 17:12

read some good performances...when/'s it on the TV?

Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Reduced to Participation Trophy?
Posted by: filstan ()
Date: November 7, 2022 19:36

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has been a bad standing joke for years. Great bands were excluded(ignored)for way to long. The institution lost credibility long ago in my eyes. Basically, bands that hung around long enough, get in now. What criteria gets bands/musicians in? What keeps them out? Of course, there is no accounting for "good" or "bad" taste in music, which is a form of art. Beauty in the eyes/ears of the beholder.

Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Reduced to Participation Trophy?
Posted by: kovach ()
Date: November 7, 2022 20:09

I like the museum. Just should leave it at that.

Re: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - Reduced to Participation Trophy?
Posted by: filstan ()
Date: November 7, 2022 20:30

Quote
kovach
I like the museum. Just should leave it at that.

Agreed!

OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: bye bye johnny ()
Date: November 7, 2022 21:21

Dolly Parton embraces rock stardom, Eminem pays tribute to hip-hop at Rock & Roll Hall of Fame ceremony

By Mikael Wood, August Brown, Amy Kaufman
Nov. 6, 2022


Chris Pizzello / Invision

[www.latimes.com]



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Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: November 7, 2022 21:21

Commercialism so often has made a caricature of what used to be great initiatives.
Walk of Fame, MTV, Rock ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame, etc., etc., etc. …
Emenem = rock ‘n’ roll … you must be kidding me confused smiley

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: November 7, 2022 22:20

Like Elvis before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 7, 2022 22:23

and Pat Boone added milk .....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: November 7, 2022 22:25

Quote
NilsHolgersson
Like Elvis THE ROLLING STONES before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Fixed it for ya.

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: November 8, 2022 16:35

Quote
Kurt
Quote
NilsHolgersson
Like Elvis THE ROLLING STONES before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Fixed it for ya.

Not funny, Kurt.
To start with, black music in the days of Elvis, Buddy, Eddy C., etc. was hardly available for "lame whites". A few, like Chuck, managed to surface, but the latter was already cleverly making his songs "ready" for that white group of music lovers.
Black music was also just about surfacing in the UK (Little Richard and the likes) and the Rolling Stones didn't "just water their music" but instead added "aggressive" power to it. When I, and many others, became interested in the original black versions of Stones covers, we thought that the "black" originals were often merely soft in comparison to the Stones interpretations (with exceptions off course winking smiley)
smileys with beer

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: November 8, 2022 16:59

Quote
NilsHolgersson
Like Elvis before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Utter nonsense. It's just pop music. And it's for everyone.

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Kurt ()
Date: November 8, 2022 18:13

Quote
georgie48
Quote
Kurt
Quote
NilsHolgersson
Like Elvis THE ROLLING STONES before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Fixed it for ya.

Not funny, Kurt.
To start with, black music in the days of Elvis, Buddy, Eddy C., etc. was hardly available for "lame whites". A few, like Chuck, managed to surface, but the latter was already cleverly making his songs "ready" for that white group of music lovers.
Black music was also just about surfacing in the UK (Little Richard and the likes) and the Rolling Stones didn't "just water their music" but instead added "aggressive" power to it. When I, and many others, became interested in the original black versions of Stones covers, we thought that the "black" originals were often merely soft in comparison to the Stones interpretations (with exceptions off course winking smiley)
smileys with beer


Not trying to be funny...just proving out the absurdity of the original comment by inserting a different artist's name. In my not-so-humble opinion.
Music is for everyone. Always has been, always will be.

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 8, 2022 18:17

Quote
Kurt
Quote
georgie48
Quote
Kurt
Quote
NilsHolgersson
Like Elvis THE ROLLING STONES before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Fixed it for ya.

Not funny, Kurt.
To start with, black music in the days of Elvis, Buddy, Eddy C., etc. was hardly available for "lame whites". A few, like Chuck, managed to surface, but the latter was already cleverly making his songs "ready" for that white group of music lovers.
Black music was also just about surfacing in the UK (Little Richard and the likes) and the Rolling Stones didn't "just water their music" but instead added "aggressive" power to it. When I, and many others, became interested in the original black versions of Stones covers, we thought that the "black" originals were often merely soft in comparison to the Stones interpretations (with exceptions off course winking smiley)
smileys with beer


Not trying to be funny...just proving out the absurdity of the original comment by inserting a different artist's name. In my not-so-humble opinion.
Music is for everyone. Always has been, always will be.

I got what you did there.

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Rocky Dijon ()
Date: November 8, 2022 19:00

Like Elvis before them, The Rolling Stones took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music


NOTE: edited for consideration only, not a real quote nor my opinion.



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Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: SomeGuy ()
Date: November 8, 2022 19:41

Usually The Stones credited the original writers on their early records and what they did back then was give attention to the vast wealth of blues music that was already there for decades, that had remained largely unnoticed by the broader public, due to the peculiarity of the American music industry (I am carefully avoiding to make this a political issue).

In short, The Rolling Stones gave the blues the recognition that was long overdue and as a result many of us listen to blues records today, when -arguably- we wouldn't do so, had they not done that. There is nothing lame about that in my opinion, even when personally I prefer the original recordings over many of their interpretations, while, at the same time, some of those interpretations certainly are rather powerful nonetheless.

(Yes I like long sentences, sorry smiling smiley

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Big Al ()
Date: November 8, 2022 20:54

Great post, SomeGuy. As much as I love his work, Jimmy Page could’ve certainly taken a leaf out of the Stones’ book, here.

I’m regard to the original post: I guess I find it to be just utterly unnecessary; especially referencing Eminem. Whether a fan or not, he’s hardly Vanilla Ice, is he? Dr Dre wouldn’t have wasted his efforts if he did not think he was an artist of substantial merit.

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: FrogSugar ()
Date: November 8, 2022 22:43

Eminem, Duran Duran and Judas Priest deserve whatever awards they won. Even if Eminem isn't rock and roll, he's a trailblazer, and his lyrics are as raw or even more so than "raw black music" whatever the @#$%& that means.

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: November 9, 2022 11:18

so any progress on the the dolly parton/stones album?winking smiley

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 9, 2022 12:29

.... theyre working on it nine ta five ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: November 9, 2022 13:55

what a way to make an album!grinning smiley

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: November 9, 2022 17:15

Quote
Rockman
.... theyre working on it nine ta five ....

9 pm to 5 am

Re: OT: 2022 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame
Posted by: MKjan ()
Date: November 9, 2022 19:06

Quote
georgie48
Quote
Kurt
Quote
NilsHolgersson
Like Elvis THE ROLLING STONES before him, Eminem took black music and watered it down to make it safe for lame whites who couldn't handle the experience of raw black music

Fixed it for ya.

Not funny, Kurt.
To start with, black music in the days of Elvis, Buddy, Eddy C., etc. was hardly available for "lame whites". A few, like Chuck, managed to surface, but the latter was already cleverly making his songs "ready" for that white group of music lovers.
Black music was also just about surfacing in the UK (Little Richard and the likes) and the Rolling Stones didn't "just water their music" but instead added "aggressive" power to it. When I, and many others, became interested in the original black versions of Stones covers, we thought that the "black" originals were often merely soft in comparison to the Stones interpretations (with exceptions off course winking smiley)
smileys with beer

I get this.

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