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Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: Georges ()
Date: June 23, 2022 19:42

The sound of the Licked Live in NYC (DVD + 2CD) is very disappointing. It is inacceptable.
Bass is almost inaudible. High notes strain ears. It tires out.
Years ago, the sound of the first release of Four Flicks DVD was much better.
And El Mocambo 1977 is perfect.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: padre69 ()
Date: June 23, 2022 19:50

It’s a pity that the whole Four Flicks isn’t available on bluray.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: June 24, 2022 00:29

Quote
Georges
The sound of the Licked Live in NYC (DVD + 2CD) is very disappointing. It is inacceptable.
Bass is almost inaudible. High notes strain ears. It tires out.
Years ago, the sound of the first release of Four Flicks DVD was much better.
And El Mocambo 1977 is perfect.
Actually, it is easy to figure out the differences in EQ department using audio analysis software and tracks from this release and Live Licks (2004). There are handful of tracks from the same concert.

For example, for Gimme Shelter. Dynamic Range is 6 both for 2004 and 2022. Both versions are brickwalled. However, 2004 version is louder, peak value is at -0.01dB, while for 2022 it is at -0.95dB.

The trick is in EQ department. 2004 version has more power below ~400Hz and above ~3kHz. Which means, 2022 version with respect to 2004 is midrange-high midrange centered. In 2022 bass, lower midrange as well as presence and brilliance were rolled off.

Human hearing is most sensitive to 2-4kHz range (higher midrange). Thus, bust in these frequencies could be most unpleasant listening experience. And they did it for 2022 remaster winking smiley. Although, this version is OK in mp3 and on cheap headphones.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: Whale ()
Date: June 24, 2022 00:56

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ironbelly
Quote
Georges
The sound of the Licked Live in NYC (DVD + 2CD) is very disappointing. It is inacceptable.
Bass is almost inaudible. High notes strain ears. It tires out.
Years ago, the sound of the first release of Four Flicks DVD was much better.
And El Mocambo 1977 is perfect.
Actually, it is easy to figure out the differences in EQ department using audio analysis software and tracks from this release and Live Licks (2004). There are handful of tracks from the same concert.

For example, for Gimme Shelter. Dynamic Range is 6 both for 2004 and 2022. Both versions are brickwalled. However, 2004 version is louder, peak value is at -0.01dB, while for 2022 it is at -0.95dB.

The trick is in EQ department. 2004 version has more power below ~400Hz and above ~3kHz. Which means, 2022 version with respect to 2004 is midrange-high midrange centered. In 2022 bass, lower midrange as well as presence and brilliance were rolled off.

Human hearing is most sensitive to 2-4kHz range (higher midrange). Thus, bust in these frequencies could be most unpleasant listening experience. And they did it for 2022 remaster winking smiley. Although, this version is OK in mp3 and on cheap headphones.
Can it be that this refers to the cd edition? At first listen the blu-ray seemed to be fine

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: cimaz ()
Date: June 24, 2022 05:15

It's a pity they didn't release one of the club shows from the 2002 (Boston Orpheum, NY Roseland, LA Wiltern)-2003 (Stockholm Cirkus) tour instead of this one.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: June 24, 2022 06:08

It’s a pity Light The Fuse has never seen a proper release.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: June 24, 2022 06:31

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cimaz
It's a pity they didn't release one of the club shows from the 2002 (Boston Orpheum, NY Roseland, LA Wiltern)-2003 (Stockholm Cirkus) tour instead of this one.
Frankly I don't know if I even want to hear anymore shows considering what they did to this one.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: bcbud ()
Date: June 24, 2022 07:26

My 3-LP white vinyl copy arrived. While the sound quality is good and the performance is fairly decent latter day Stones, the physical manufacture of the vinyl is very disappointing. An ugly scratch scarred the beginning of Side 2 (for the first dozen rotations), crackles and pops are audible throughout all three records. The records are pressed slightly off-centre so that the stylus moves laterally as the records are played. I ordered a replacement but the surface noise is almost as bad on the replacement copy. The lack of quality control with today's vinyl is appalling.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-06-24 07:31 by bcbud.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: ironbelly ()
Date: June 24, 2022 11:32

Quote
Whale
Quote
ironbelly
Quote
Georges
The sound of the Licked Live in NYC (DVD + 2CD) is very disappointing. It is inacceptable.
Bass is almost inaudible. High notes strain ears. It tires out.
Years ago, the sound of the first release of Four Flicks DVD was much better.
And El Mocambo 1977 is perfect.
Actually, it is easy to figure out the differences in EQ department using audio analysis software and tracks from this release and Live Licks (2004). There are handful of tracks from the same concert.

For example, for Gimme Shelter. Dynamic Range is 6 both for 2004 and 2022. Both versions are brickwalled. However, 2004 version is louder, peak value is at -0.01dB, while for 2022 it is at -0.95dB.

The trick is in EQ department. 2004 version has more power below ~400Hz and above ~3kHz. Which means, 2022 version with respect to 2004 is midrange-high midrange centered. In 2022 bass, lower midrange as well as presence and brilliance were rolled off.

Human hearing is most sensitive to 2-4kHz range (higher midrange). Thus, bust in these frequencies could be most unpleasant listening experience. And they did it for 2022 remaster winking smiley. Although, this version is OK in mp3 and on cheap headphones.
Can it be that this refers to the cd edition? At first listen the blu-ray seemed to be fine
I was referring to:
2004 Live Licks CD
2022 Licked Live in NYC (DVD+2CD combo), track was taken from CD.
I just compare the same track from 2022 24bit/48kHz digital download. The EQ profiles for 2022 Hi-Res and 2022 regular CD are the same. Hardly believe they did something special for blue-ray.

Look, there are tons of factors that affect perception of the music - audio system, surrounding, person's state of hearing, physical state, mood etc. If you found it is OK - good for you.

Re: Rolling Stones Licked Live In NYC
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: July 1, 2022 11:48

Have y'all tried to listen to the DVD with earphones? It sounds great! It's much more fun to have the complete concert as the flow takes you properly back to the Licks Tour.

I would like to state that I find the arena shows of 2002-03 WAY better than the No Security shows of spring 1999 as I prefer the Fender Twin attack of 02-03 to the more distorted sound of 99 and 05/06/07.




In my humble opinion, the first 4-5 songs in those arena shows of 02-03 are the best thought out ones they've ever done:

1. SFM

2. Start Me Up (as in Sweden and Australia, when Keith skipped YGMR and opted for IYCRM in the 2nd spot it served the show well as YGMR should not be the 2nd song as it is not as good as SMU or IYCRM and non-hardcore fans will look up the IORR album when they come home home after hearing IYCRM in the 2nd or 3rd spotthumbs up).

3. If You Can't Rock Me

4. Don't Stop

5. Monkey Man

...and the icing on the cake, to always use Dice as the last one before the introductions....

It comes too early when played in the 3rd or 4th spots...smileys with beer



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2022-07-01 12:02 by MadMax.

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