Great to see new footage from the Orpheum Theater in Boston in the Tip of the Tongue Backstage bonus feature on the Bluray

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Great to see new footage from the Orpheum Theater in Boston in the Tip of the Tongue Backstage bonus feature on the Bluray

What is the other "backstage" stuff they listed as bonus features. Is there anything really new to us?

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Great to see new footage from the Orpheum Theater in Boston in the Tip of the Tongue Backstage bonus feature on the Bluray

What is the other "backstage" stuff they listed as bonus features. Is there anything really new to us?

Tip of the Tongue Backstage with All Down The Line from the Orpheum Theater and the 3 Amsterdam songs are new to me



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About Licked Live In NYC, in my opinion it sounds good, I'm listening to it now on spotify and it sounds good to me. Sam did a good job here.

I would say it average at best. What bothers me is that wide separation causes tons of funny artifacts.

The most obvious is that right channel (the one with Keith's guitar) is much brighter than the left one (with Ronnie's guitar). Actually, the left channel for most of the tracks is rather dull, while the right is rather sharp and bouncy. Listen carefully to Ronnie's solo in Don't Stop, for example. I have a feeling it was done that way to remove that disturbing and unpleasant weird high pitched noise that is all over the record. They were not able to remove it but just make it less audible in the left channel.

No, the cd's of the Voodoo live recording is very bad too.
The only possitive thing was that the other Voodoo live release from Japan was a little better.

Does anyone have the bonus tracks in audio form to download?

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Great to see new footage from the Orpheum Theater in Boston in the Tip of the Tongue Backstage bonus feature on the Bluray

What is the other "backstage" stuff they listed as bonus features. Is there anything really new to us?

Tip of the Tongue Backstage with All Down The Line from the Orpheum Theater and the 3 Amsterdam songs are new to me

Cool thanks. Mind listing the Amsterdam songs?

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Great to see new footage from the Orpheum Theater in Boston in the Tip of the Tongue Backstage bonus feature on the Bluray

What is the other "backstage" stuff they listed as bonus features. Is there anything really new to us?

Tip of the Tongue Backstage with All Down The Line from the Orpheum Theater and the 3 Amsterdam songs are new to me

It's a complete live version of All Down The Line ?? Thanks

Amsterdam bonus tracks:
Star Star
I Just Want To Make Love To You
Street Fighting Man

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Amsterdam bonus tracks:
Star Star
I Just Want To Make Love To You
Street Fighting Man

Thanks!

Listening to hi-res now.

Bass is nonexistent. You can't turn it up without killing your ears.

Not happy so far.

Is the bonus material on DVD and Bluray the same?

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Is the bonus material on DVD and Bluray the same?

No. BluRay only bonus: Tip Of The Tongue Documentary, Tip Of The Tongue Boston Backstage - [TheRollingStonesShop.com] . DVD contents: [TheRollingStonesShop.com] .

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Listening to hi-res now.

Bass is nonexistent. You can't turn it up without killing your ears.

Not happy so far.

Are you listening to a high-res download? I consider getting it from Qobuz, but if you say that even hi-res isn't any good, I might save the money.

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Listening to hi-res now.

Bass is nonexistent. You can't turn it up without killing your ears.

Not happy so far.

Shame Chuck's piano was non existent. He ruins quite a few songs.

Really happy with the Amsterdam bonus tracks great to have something official from a show what you have seen live

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Listening to hi-res now.

Bass is nonexistent. You can't turn it up without killing your ears.

Not happy so far.

Shame Chuck's piano was non existent. He ruins quite a few songs.

Because we can't hear him?

Sorry, if it's written before. I recognised, that "Extreme Western Grip" is a lot longer, 6:43, than the Four Flicks version, which was 3.05 and edited at the end.

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Is it allowed to say something positive? If so, I really like the version of can’t you hear me knocking. I will delete this post if it is not appropriate

Nobody says something negative about the playing, only about the mix. What has the version to do with the bad mix? The version is great playing wise, has been out for 20 years: [youtu.be]
And in much better quality too

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Listening to hi-res now.

Bass is nonexistent. You can't turn it up without killing your ears.

Not happy so far.

Are you listening to a high-res download? I consider getting it from Qobuz, but if you say that even hi-res isn't any good, I might save the money.

Correct, hires via hdtracks.com

It's not fun to listen to. One of their best shows, sadly, has been marred. I'm not sure if I'll warm up to it but it's quite cold something.

@justin

Can you please post the DR date?

I have El Mocambo which is decent. But this release sounds odd. I think I skip. The YT upload sounds really bad and way to loud. [www.youtube.com]



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@justin

Can you please post the DR date?

I have El Mocambo which is decent. But this release sounds odd. I think I skip. The YT upload sounds really bad and way to loud. [www.youtube.com]

It is not about DR numbers here.

Both El Mocambo and NYC share the same pattern. Kind of. They both clipped up to -0.02dB. El Mocambo has DR 7-10 with average 8. NYC has DR 6-9 with average 7. It is not critical.

The problem is with the mix. If you'll listen side by side similar tracks like Dance Little Sister vs. Don't Stop the first thing that jumps up is muffed left channel with Ronnie's guitar low and sharp loud and clear Keith's guitar far in the right channel. The same with Jumpin' Jack Flash. Keith's guitar roars in the right while Ronnie's is a kind of background in the left for NYC while balanced for El Mocambo. Overall it seems that all tracks has has more mid-range in the right channel. And as it was already mentioned - bass is buried for NYC too. El Mocambo (putting that reverb aside) sounds more neutral and natural. NYC has wide stereo stage and the sound is rather sharp.

PS. I believe it is needles to repeat about annoying whistle in the left channel that is all over the place for NYC.

Can somebody extract the audio of Amsterdam. My mail is not hidden
Thanks

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Sorry, if it's written before. I recognised, that "Extreme Western Grip" is a lot longer, 6:43, than the Four Flicks version, which was 3.05 and edited at the end.

Interesting !!
I asked this question before but they didn't understand me... "Tip of the Tongue Backstage with All Down The Line from the Orpheum Theater": is it a full version of All Down The Line live at Orpheum Theater?

Haven't read through much lately but the new YouTube of SFM reveals something interesting that is not on FOUR FLICKS (as well as "the official" until recently) - Keith botching a guitar line going into the chorus.

It was obviously fixed for the box set release.

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Sorry, if it's written before. I recognised, that "Extreme Western Grip" is a lot longer, 6:43, than the Four Flicks version, which was 3.05 and edited at the end.

Interesting !!
I asked this question before but they didn't understand me... "Tip of the Tongue Backstage with All Down The Line from the Orpheum Theater": is it a full version of All Down The Line live at Orpheum Theater?

I bought the DVD+2CD set, so I don't have "Tip of the Tongue Backstage from the Orpheum Theater". I didn't know about this BlueRay bonus, when I ordered the DVD. Hopefully someone else will compare this.

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Haven't read through much lately but the new YouTube of SFM reveals something interesting that is not on FOUR FLICKS (as well as "the official" until recently) - Keith botching a guitar line going into the chorus.

It was obviously fixed for the box set release.

There's a few fixes like that on Four Flicks. Basically removing sloppy playing, and replacing with cleaner playing from the same song.

First chorus of Brown Sugar has some sloppy playing by Keith, but on Four Flicks they fixed it by copy pasting the first clean riff of the chorus.



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The Orpheum footage rolls after the credits of Tip of the tongue on the Blu-ray

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@justin

Can you please post the DR date?

I have El Mocambo which is decent. But this release sounds odd. I think I skip. The YT upload sounds really bad and way to loud. [www.youtube.com]

It is not about DR numbers here.

Both El Mocambo and NYC share the same pattern. Kind of. They both clipped up to -0.02dB. El Mocambo has DR 7-10 with average 8. NYC has DR 6-9 with average 7. It is not critical.

The problem is with the mix. If you'll listen side by side similar tracks like Dance Little Sister vs. Don't Stop the first thing that jumps up is muffed left channel with Ronnie's guitar low and sharp loud and clear Keith's guitar far in the right channel. The same with Jumpin' Jack Flash. Keith's guitar roars in the right while Ronnie's is a kind of background in the left for NYC while balanced for El Mocambo. Overall it seems that all tracks has has more mid-range in the right channel. And as it was already mentioned - bass is buried for NYC too. El Mocambo (putting that reverb aside) sounds more neutral and natural. NYC has wide stereo stage and the sound is rather sharp.

PS. I believe it is needles to repeat about annoying whistle in the left channel that is all over the place for NYC.

You're right but I still don' t understand what they have done to ruine most of the new releases. 2009 onwards.