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Parklife is brilliant. Very British. "It's got nothing to do with Vorsprung
durch technik you know...".




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Nothing outrageous about that. Just an opinion. Considering the fact that he is not into reunions it's a natural conclusion.

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Taylor Swift's response to Damon Albarn's Los Angeles Times interview:



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Poor Taylor. She’s got co-writers on almost all her songs.
What a fool.

Poor Mick. Poor Keith. They've got co-writers on almost all their songs.
What fools.

(irony off)

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Poor Taylor. She’s got co-writers on almost all her songs.
What a fool.

Poor Mick. Poor Keith. They've got co-writers on almost all their songs.
What fools.

(irony off)

Jagger/Richards wrote music and a band called the Rolling Stones played them.
Lennon/McCartney wrote songs and a band called the Beatles played them.
Taylor Swift’s discography released as her alone, no band looks like this

Taylor Swift - 8 of the 11 tracks co-written
Fearless - 6 of the 13 tracks co written.
Speak Now - I think she gets full credit on all 14 tracks here
Red - 7 of the 15 tracks are co written
1989 - 12 of the 13 tracks are co written
Reputation - 15 of the 15 tracks are co written
Lover - 15 of the 18 tracks are co written
Folklore - 15 of the 16 tracks are co written
Evermore - 14 of the 15 tracks are co written


Take any solo act like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, who ever you want, there’s no way they’re releasing any album with that amount of track’s co written and claiming it under their name!

If Taylor Swift was in a band, I’d have respect. Instead she’s fool who claims to have written ALL her own songs. Yeah, you co-wrote them. She’s an industry act.
If she gets kids picking up guitars, it’s the best that could come out of it.

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Poor Taylor. She’s got co-writers on almost all her songs.
What a fool.

Poor Mick. Poor Keith. They've got co-writers on almost all their songs.
What fools.

(irony off)

Jagger/Richards wrote music and a band called the Rolling Stones played them.
Lennon/McCartney wrote songs and a band called the Beatles played them.
Taylor Swift’s discography released as her alone, no band looks like this

Taylor Swift - 8 of the 11 tracks co-written
Fearless - 6 of the 13 tracks co written.
Speak Now - I think she gets full credit on all 14 tracks here
Red - 7 of the 15 tracks are co written
1989 - 12 of the 13 tracks are co written
Reputation - 15 of the 15 tracks are co written
Lover - 15 of the 18 tracks are co written
Folklore - 15 of the 16 tracks are co written
Evermore - 14 of the 15 tracks are co written


Take any solo act like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, who ever you want, there’s no way they’re releasing any album with that amount of track’s co written and claiming it under their name!

If Taylor Swift was in a band, I’d have respect. Instead she’s fool who claims to have written ALL her own songs. Yeah, you co-wrote them. She’s an industry act.
If she gets kids picking up guitars, it’s the best that could come out of it.

Next thing you'll be telling us that only one person can design a building, that more than one architect means it's a fake building. Even though you're still not sure about what all she wrote

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Stuff like this always makes me laugh at SOME Y'ALL Stones' fans on this Board. I am from the US, but I remember first hearing "There's No Other Way" by Blur around the time that the Stone Roses, Primal Scream, Ride, and the Charlatans UK exploded on the UK music scene (and the world, except for the US, scene) and took over the music press like NME, Melody Maker, Q, Vox, etc. MUCH like the Stones, et al did in the mid-60s. Blur proved to be among the most successful and enduring acts of the BritPop movement of the early 1990s, and their 2009 and 2012 Hype Park shows were/are the stuff of legend. Go listen to them.

For anyone on here who doesn't know (or acknowledge) what Blur did or that Albarn is incredibly talented and respected by his peers and contemporaries means that he or she has remained deliberately ignorant of Blur or he or she has trouble appreciating anything beyond the Stones and those within their immediate sphere of contemporaries.

Remember, when the Stones asked the Stone Roses to open for them in 1989, the Roses' response was you ought to open for us! Say what you want, but the Stones weathered the storm.

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I’ll say it again a BAND is different to a SOLO effort. Did Elton John DENY Bernie Taupins input? No, he never claimed to have written all the words.

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His attempt at back peddling was pathetic, his limp statement that what he said was "taken out of context" - utter rubbish.

When Albarn was asked if he thinks a lot of modern musicians rely on sound and attitude, he responded, “name me someone who’s not.” After the interviewer cited Taylor Swift as an “excellent songwriter,” Albarn offered up a blunt response. “She doesn’t write her own songs,” he said.

The interviewer pressed Albarn saying “of course she does” and that she co-writes some of her music. “That doesn’t count,” Albarn responded. “I know what co-writing is. Co-writing is very different to writing. I’m not hating on anybody, I’m just saying there’s a big difference between a songwriter and a songwriter who co-writes. Doesn’t mean that the outcome can’t be really great.”

So co-writing and... writing are different? Writing is writing.

Has anyone ever asked Keith what he thinks, and thought, about Mick coming up with the lick or riff and music to Brown Sugar?

Obviously not all the songs they wrote together were written together, just like Lennon and McCartney. And not all the songs they wrote together did they write from the beginning - Jumpin' Jack Flash is a good example.

Who is this geezer? He was in a band called Gorilaz? He's badmouthing Taylor Swift and and he's playing at Disney World or whatever it is in California.

Sounds like a dying career. Which is quite charming considering what he said about the Stones:

“The greatest exponent of that is the Rolling Stones, who just couldn’t let it go,” he said. “It’s disappointing. Not to say that I didn’t absolutely love the Rolling Stones in their heyday — they were magnificent. But do other stuff in your life. Singing ‘(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction’ when you’re pushing 80? Come on.”

He sounds like an old person in the 1970s - "oh those awful Rolling Stones with that Mick Jagger."

Disappointing, eh? Wow. What a pathetic person.

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Poor Taylor. She’s got co-writers on almost all her songs.
What a fool.

Poor Mick. Poor Keith. They've got co-writers on almost all their songs.
What fools.

(irony off)

Jagger/Richards wrote music and a band called the Rolling Stones played them.
Lennon/McCartney wrote songs and a band called the Beatles played them.
Taylor Swift’s discography released as her alone, no band looks like this

Taylor Swift - 8 of the 11 tracks co-written
Fearless - 6 of the 13 tracks co written.
Speak Now - I think she gets full credit on all 14 tracks here
Red - 7 of the 15 tracks are co written
1989 - 12 of the 13 tracks are co written
Reputation - 15 of the 15 tracks are co written
Lover - 15 of the 18 tracks are co written
Folklore - 15 of the 16 tracks are co written
Evermore - 14 of the 15 tracks are co written


Take any solo act like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, who ever you want, there’s no way they’re releasing any album with that amount of track’s co written and claiming it under their name!

If Taylor Swift was in a band, I’d have respect. Instead she’s fool who claims to have written ALL her own songs. Yeah, you co-wrote them. She’s an industry act.
If she gets kids picking up guitars, it’s the best that could come out of it.

Next thing you'll be telling us that only one person can design a building, that more than one architect means it's a fake building. Even though you're still not sure about what all she wrote

To take your example. No architect claims complete ownership and says the designed the building when it was a team.

A team of songwriters usually are a band. A person who issues their name and claims to be a SOLO architect of her music when the opposite is the truth.

Can you see the difference between a SOLO artist and a team of artists which is a band?

Taylor’s claims are the same as someone on a team claiming responsibility for all victory. Admit it’s a team effort! Don’t claim to have written ALL the material and release it under your name when the truth is different.


I’ll say it again a BAND is different to a SOLO effort. Did Elton John DENY Bernie Taupins input? No, he never claimed to have written all the words.

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Poor Taylor. She’s got co-writers on almost all her songs.
What a fool.

Poor Mick. Poor Keith. They've got co-writers on almost all their songs.
What fools.

(irony off)

Jagger/Richards wrote music and a band called the Rolling Stones played them.
Lennon/McCartney wrote songs and a band called the Beatles played them.
Taylor Swift’s discography released as her alone, no band looks like this

Taylor Swift - 8 of the 11 tracks co-written
Fearless - 6 of the 13 tracks co written.
Speak Now - I think she gets full credit on all 14 tracks here
Red - 7 of the 15 tracks are co written
1989 - 12 of the 13 tracks are co written
Reputation - 15 of the 15 tracks are co written
Lover - 15 of the 18 tracks are co written
Folklore - 15 of the 16 tracks are co written
Evermore - 14 of the 15 tracks are co written


Take any solo act like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, who ever you want, there’s no way they’re releasing any album with that amount of track’s co written and claiming it under their name!

If Taylor Swift was in a band, I’d have respect. Instead she’s fool who claims to have written ALL her own songs. Yeah, you co-wrote them. She’s an industry act.
If she gets kids picking up guitars, it’s the best that could come out of it.

Next thing you'll be telling us that only one person can design a building, that more than one architect means it's a fake building. Even though you're still not sure about what all she wrote

To take your example. No architect claims complete ownership and says the designed the building when it was a team.

A team of songwriters usually are a band. A person who issues their name and claims to be a SOLO architect of her music when the opposite is the truth.

Can you see the difference between a SOLO artist and a team of artists which is a band?

Taylor’s claims are the same as someone on a team claiming responsibility for all victory. Admit it’s a team effort! Don’t claim to have written ALL the material and release it under your name when the truth is different.


I’ll say it again a BAND is different to a SOLO effort. Did Elton John DENY Bernie Taupins input? No, he never claimed to have written all the words.

You sidestepped the point about an architect in regard with a solo artist.

Solo artists write with other people as well. I can only think of one solo artist that never wrote with anyone else - Willis Alan Ramsey. He only has one LP released.

It doesn't matter if a solo artist wrote solo or with others. It's their release. Your argument is weak and foundless. The Stones' first LP, regardless of UK or US, only has one Jagger/Richards song on it. So... it's not a Stones album for you.

That's basically what you're saying.

WEAK! Give it up!

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Surely writing in blue takes you a step above us normals here, but still, even from a higher place your overview seems to be a bit clouded because I rarely see a voice here that puts down what Albarn achieved as a musician. I don't have to say that "Parklife" is one of my all time favourite songs (which in fact it really is!) to say that it usually stinks if artists put other artists down, for whatever reason, but usually as a publicity-seeking stunt in phases of a waning career.

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Surely writing in blue takes you a step above us normals here, but still, even from a higher place your overview seems to be a bit clouded because I rarely see a voice here that puts down what Albarn achieved as a musician. I don't have to say that "Parklife" is one of my all time favourite songs (which in fact it really is!) to say that it usually stinks if artists put other artists down, for whatever reason, but usually as a publicity-seeking stunt in phases of a waning career.

Surely, retired_dog, writing in blue hardly takes me above anyone. I originally wrote in blue so I could easily find my posts later on. Now, I write in blue to draw comments from people who have nothing else to do but comment on the fact that I write in blue.

I'll not dare question the accuracy of that which you wrote, though, but much, though not all, of that which appeared before what I first wrote reeked of being dismissive of Albarn and Blur.


BTW, I think that Parklife is also one of my all timers. Oy!

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I’ll say it again. SHE said in HER tweet SHE writes ALL HER OWN music.
And that blatantly ain’t true.

Take your Taylor and shove her. I’ll take blur any day.
He co wrote some tunes. He didn’t release them as Damon Albarn. He co wrote then with 4 other guys and called it blur. A band. He didn’t claim he wrote them all.

That’s it. It was her words, which are drama Queen lies that caused me to respond.

All the people
So many people
And they all go hand-in-hand
Hand-in-hand through their parklife
Know what I mean?

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I’ll say it again. SHE said in HER tweet SHE writes ALL HER OWN music.
And that blatantly ain’t true.

Take your Taylor and shove her. I’ll take blur any day.
He co wrote some tunes. He didn’t release them as Damon Albarn. He co wrote then with 4 other guys and called it blur. A band. He didn’t claim he wrote them all.

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So he's a 'co-writer' too? Ergo, according to himself, not a writer?

Now that's funny.

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So he's a 'co-writer' too? Ergo, according to himself, not a writer?

Now that's funny.

He wrote Blur's music with the group's guitarist, Graham Coxon. The 'Blur' song-writing credit is to ensure the drummer and bassist get their share of the royalties. That's my understanding, anyway.

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So he's a 'co-writer' too? Ergo, according to himself, not a writer?

Now that's funny.

He wrote Blur's music with the group's guitarist, Graham Coxon. The 'Blur' song-writing credit is to ensure the drummer and bassist get their share of the royalties. That's my understanding, anyway.

I've no quibble with that, or with Blur. That's fine and makes sense. It's him slagging an artist because she's co-written, as though she actually had no part in the writing BECAUSE it's co-written, that's the issue.

If he thinks she's a fraud then he should just say so and provide some proof, rather than state songs that are co-written aren't valid.

For whatever respect one may have for him as an artist or his past works, he's a bit of a bonehead for those comments.

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So he's a 'co-writer' too? Ergo, according to himself, not a writer?

Now that's funny.

He wrote Blur's music with the group's guitarist, Graham Coxon. The 'Blur' song-writing credit is to ensure the drummer and bassist get their share of the royalties. That's my understanding, anyway.

I've no quibble with that, or with Blur. That's fine and makes sense. It's him slagging an artist because she's co-written, as though she actually had no part in the writing BECAUSE it's co-written, that's the issue.

If he thinks she's a fraud then he should just say so and provide some proof, rather than state songs that are co-written aren't valid.

For whatever respect one may have for him as an artist or his past works, he's a bit of a bonehead for those comments.

I think that Damon's point is that nowadays more and more artist relay on a pool of professional "song-crafters" (composers/arrangers/musicians/whatever, imposed by the record company or hired by the artist himself). Professionals that tend to be the same for most artists, with the result that so many pop songs sound alike.

I truly don't have a clue if Taylor Smith is one of those artists.

For sure the current state is nothing new in the music business. Motown, for example.

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