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1975 - THAT was bad.
and 1974, perhaps?
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bob r
1974 Things did start to slip a bit, but there were still some great releases that year:Blood on the Tracks, Rock & Roll Lennon, Physical Graffitti, Young Americans, Katy Lied, Venus & Mars, Fleetwood Mac, Born to Run, Nighthawks at the Diner, Zuma, Two Sides of the Moon ( Just Kidding ...................! ), Bob Marley & the Wailers Live !, Moondog Matinee
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bob r
1974 Things did start to slip a bit, but there were still some great releases that year:Blood on the Tracks, Rock & Roll Lennon, Physical Graffitti, Young Americans, Katy Lied, Venus & Mars, Fleetwood Mac, Born to Run, Nighthawks at the Diner, Zuma, Two Sides of the Moon ( Just Kidding ...................! ), Bob Marley & the Wailers Live !, Moondog Matinee
Most of those weren’t released in ‘74. Born to Run, Zuma, Young Americans, Blood on the Tracks and Physical Graffiti were 1975.
1974 [www.besteveralbums.com]
1974 was the worst year of the 70’s, music-wise, for me.
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Big Al
I know far less than many of my fellow posters, but I do suspect that 1974 could be the least favourable year of the decade for music: not many ‘happenings’ or groundbreaking albums.
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Big Al
I know far less than many of my fellow posters, but I do suspect that 1974 could be the least favourable year of the decade for music: not many ‘happenings’ or groundbreaking albums.
Probably showing my age, but I would say 1964-1973 is the top 10 years for releases out of the last 60 years. Any year you would take out and replace?
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Four Stone Walls
'73 was the plateau - the crest of the wave ....
The so-so years were the following three ...
Until -77 and the punk revolution and explosion
'78 good.
So-so ever since really.
(All in rock /folk etc terms really)
In fact what stand-out years have there been since?
'89 maybe.
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Doxa
For the Stones I think 1973 was the crucial year when they started to look old and not any longer a representation of the zeitgeist. That didn't mean they weren't incredibly popular - yes they were, like Elvis was - but the new trends and younger generations discovering new 'hotter' acts started to happen.
In a way it happened pretty quickly - STICKY FINGERS was about the hottest and trendiest album of 1971 and like a statement that the Stones are the leading rock band of the world now as the Beatles were gone. No matter what critics say EXILE was still the definition of god-like coolness. But GOATS HEAD SOUP was something else, and "Angie" - no matter how big hit it was and how many new fans it brought to them - gave a signal that a new interesting rock music is to be found from somewhere else. If in a way the band had achieved some sort of eternal rock god status living in a sort of Olympys Mountain of their own, their new music started to be pretty mortal and irrelevant.
To put it in other words: if in 1969 when the title "Greatest Rock&Roll Band of the World" was introduced it was something like an arrogant battle-cry they wanted to prove true (knowing pretty well that at least there was one band in the world that might think otherwise), by 1973 it had turned out to be a some kind of cliche like "King of Rock" associated to Elvis, acknowledging their achievements, status and place in history of rock and like an ageless manifestation that 'this is what real and original rock music should sound like and anything else always will measured against it' no matter what kind of trends come and go. What is unique and incredible actually is that The Stones have always being able to delivare according to the expectations set by themselves, especially live - being enough good version of themselves. Still today.
First you shock them, then they put you in a museum...
- Doxa
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Doxa
For the Stones I think 1973 was the crucial year when they started to look old and not any longer a representation of the zeitgeist. That didn't mean they weren't incredibly popular - yes they were, like Elvis was - but the new trends and younger generations discovering new 'hotter' acts started to happen.
In a way it happened pretty quickly - STICKY FINGERS was about the hottest and trendiest album of 1971 and like a statement that the Stones are the leading rock band of the world now as the Beatles were gone. No matter what critics say EXILE was still the definition of god-like coolness. But GOATS HEAD SOUP was something else, and "Angie" - no matter how big hit it was and how many new fans it brought to them - gave a signal that a new interesting rock music is to be found from somewhere else. If in a way the band had achieved some sort of eternal rock god status living in a sort of Olympys Mountain of their own, their new music started to be pretty mortal and irrelevant.
To put it in other words: if in 1969 when the title "Greatest Rock&Roll Band of the World" was introduced it was something like an arrogant battle-cry they wanted to prove true (knowing pretty well that at least there was one band in the world that might think otherwise), by 1973 it had turned out to be a some kind of cliche like "King of Rock" associated to Elvis, acknowledging their achievements, status and place in history of rock and like an ageless manifestation that 'this is what real and original rock music should sound like and anything else always will measured against it' no matter what kind of trends come and go. What is unique and incredible actually is that The Stones have always being able to delivare according to the expectations set by themselves, especially live - being enough good version of themselves. Still today.
First you shock them, then they put you in a museum...
- Doxa
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Doxa
For the Stones I think 1973 was the crucial year when they started to look old and not any longer a representation of the zeitgeist. That didn't mean they weren't incredibly popular - yes they were, like Elvis was - but the new trends and younger generations discovering new 'hotter' acts started to happen.
In a way it happened pretty quickly - STICKY FINGERS was about the hottest and trendiest album of 1971 and like a statement that the Stones are the leading rock band of the world now as the Beatles were gone. No matter what critics say EXILE was still the definition of god-like coolness. But GOATS HEAD SOUP was something else, and "Angie" - no matter how big hit it was and how many new fans it brought to them - gave a signal that a new interesting rock music is to be found from somewhere else. If in a way the band had achieved some sort of eternal rock god status living in a sort of Olympys Mountain of their own, their new music started to be pretty mortal and irrelevant.
To put it in other words: if in 1969 when the title "Greatest Rock&Roll Band of the World" was introduced it was something like an arrogant battle-cry they wanted to prove true (knowing pretty well that at least there was one band in the world that might think otherwise), by 1973 it had turned out to be a some kind of cliche like "King of Rock" associated to Elvis, acknowledging their achievements, status and place in history of rock and like an ageless manifestation that 'this is what real and original rock music should sound like and anything else always will measured against it' no matter what kind of trends come and go. What is unique and incredible actually is that The Stones have always being able to delivare according to the expectations set by themselves, especially live - being enough good version of themselves. Still today.
First you shock them, then they put you in a museum...
- Doxa
Sticky Fingers was released after The Beatles broke up, but conceived when Beatles still were together - and that goes for some parts of Exile too, but GHS is the first album with songs conceived after the Beatles-break up. I think that has a bigger impact on the way GHS is put together. In an interview at the time Mick Jagger said that Stones were exploring "beauty" on the new album (I can't remember his exact words). I think tracks like 100 years ago, Coming down again, Angie, Hide your love, Winter, Can you hear the music can be seen in that light. If glam had been seen as something that needed to be fought harder they would have included Criss Cross and more like that.