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Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 04:32

Like many of you I'm not too thrilled with the song selections on the upcoming rarities CD. So with the aid of this informative website [www.timeisonourside.com] I am attempting to assemble a track list for a better rarities collection, one I will burn myself.

I'm going to start with a CD encompassing every studio track released since 1970 that is not on a studio album. Live stuff like Let It Rock can wait for the next disc. Remixes will also be yet another CD.

Here's what I have, please let me know of mistakes, things I've left out, etc.
Did I get them all?

1.Through The Lonely Nights (B Side of It's Only Rock 'N' Roll)
2. Everything Is Turning To Gold (B Side to Shattered and also on Sucking In The '70s)
3. If I Was A Dancer (Sucking In The '70s)
4. Think I'm Going Mad (B Side to She Was Hot)
5. Fancy Man Blues (B Side to Mixed Emotions)
6. Cook Cook Blues (B Side to Rock And A Hard Place)
7. Wish I'd Never Met You (B Side of Terrifying)
8. Highwire (Flashpoint)
9. Sex Drive (Flashpoint)
10. The Storm (B Side to Love Is Strong)
11. So Young (B Side to Love Is Strong)
12. Jump On Top Of Me (B Side to You Got Me Rockin')
13. I'm Gonna Drive (B Side to Out Of Tears)
14. Paying The Cost To Be The Boss (with B.B. King, on King's 1997 album Deuces Wild)
15. Anyway You Look At It (B Side to Saint Of Me)
16. Honest I Do (remake) (Hope Floats soundtrack)
17. Don't Stop (Forty Licks)
18. Keys To Your Love (Forty Licks)
19. Stealing My Heart (Forty Licks)
20. Losing My Touch (Forty Licks)
21. Extreme Western Grip (Four Flicks)
22. Well Well (Four Flicks)
23. Hurricane (Red Cross charity single)
24. Under The Radar (A Bigger Bang Special Edition)
25. Don't Wanna Go Home (A Bigger Bang Special Edition)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 20:51 by ohnonotyouagain.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: georgelicks ()
Date: November 16, 2005 05:19

What about Exile On Main Street Blues?

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: James Lynn ()
Date: November 16, 2005 05:22

Thats a damn good list! ohnonotyouagain Nice Job. Never heard 2-3 of them myself!

MEZ

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: marko ()
Date: November 16, 2005 08:59

This is the way to go,not the one theyre releasing.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: wisertime ()
Date: November 16, 2005 10:54

I would buy this one, not the other !!

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: Baboon Bro ()
Date: November 16, 2005 10:59

"20. Losing My Touch (Forty Licks) " No, no, no, please, no.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ssprings ()
Date: November 16, 2005 15:47

Memo From Turner



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 15:53 by ssprings.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Date: November 16, 2005 16:30

The 25 tunes listed in the original post would be a fantastic "Rarities" CD.

However one must make several purchases to get all of the songs listed. The Stones want it this way.

Seriously, look at how many fans bought 40 Licks for 4 new songs. Look how many will buy the Special Edition ABB for 2 new songs. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if there were still yet ANOTHER edition of ABB following the "Special Edition" to go on sale at the beginning of the European tour.

It's also funny how some will not buy Rarities when it will come out but will have no problem paying/donating $5+ for one song........Hurricane.

Hopefully we will be able to see more "Stripped" type compilations available in the near future.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: mr edward ()
Date: November 16, 2005 17:30

Saw A Bigger Bang in stores today for only 9,99 euro, which it already was in the second week here in Holland (Van Leest, Mediamarkt)so the Rarities album, which won't sell as much as ABB, will hopefully follow the same path shortly after being released.

Why didn't they wait untill the tour hits Europe and media attention is secured? That would have been a better release date?

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: November 16, 2005 17:57

Well, everybody will prefer his or her own individual tracklist for a Rarities release - and the Stones for sure do not want to hear that their tracklist decision is wrong. But it must be said that the ommitance of a couple of tracks is nothing less than a crime: Think I'm Going Mad comes to mind, but also later tracks such as The Storm, So Young, Jump On Top Of Me, Honest I Do (Stripped remake) - and although labelled as solo tracks, I prefer Run Rudolph Run and The Harder They Come by Keith over the lame Thru And Thru (live) any day.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: revolver ()
Date: November 16, 2005 19:33

An impressive tracklisting. I don't understand why Highwire + Sexdrive is there though.

Anyway, you are missing 2 tracks:

Criss Cross Man (on Japanese soundtrack Metamorphosis, 1973)

Long Black Veil (Stones with The Cheiftans, 1995)

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: Chas ()
Date: November 16, 2005 19:45

Now that would be a good album. And, yes include Losing My Touch.

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: micawber ()
Date: November 16, 2005 20:15

Must be a real big CD, hope it fits into my player. 25 songs...

Re: Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 20:50

revolver Wrote:
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> An impressive tracklisting. I don't understand why
> Highwire + Sexdrive is there though.
>

While not my favorite songs, they fit my criteria of studio tracks that aren't on a studio album.

> Anyway, you are missing 2 tracks:
>
> Criss Cross Man (on Japanese soundtrack
> Metamorphosis, 1973)
>
> Long Black Veil (Stones with The Cheiftans, 1995)

Good call on those two. For that matter, I left out all the other Stones songs on Metamorphosis as well, including Memo From Turner as ssprings pointed out. (Of course, some of the songs on Metamorphosis are not actually Stones tunes, they are just Jagger with the Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra.) And as georgelicks pointed out I left out Exile On Main Street Blues.

Ok, so here is the revised track listing of all studio tracks released from 1970 to present that aren’t on studio albums:

Disc 1
1. Exile On Main Street Blues (promotional magazine release)
2. Through The Lonely Nights (B Side of It's Only Rock 'N' Roll)
3. Don't Lie to Me (Metamorphosis)
4. I Don't Know Why (Metamorphosis)
5. If You Let Me (Metamorphosis)
6. Jiving Sister Fanny (Metamorphosis)
7. Downtown Suzie (Metamorphosis)
8. Family (Metamorphosis)
9. Memo from Turner (Metamorphosis)
10. I'm Going Down (Metamorphosis)
11. Criss Cross Man (Metamorphosis, Japanese version only
12. Everything Is Turning To Gold (B Side to Shattered and also on Sucking In The '70s)
13. If I Was A Dancer (Sucking In The '70s)
14. Think I'm Going Mad (B Side to She Was Hot)
15. Fancy Man Blues (B Side to Mixed Emotions)
16. Cook Cook Blues (B Side to Rock And A Hard Place)
17. Wish I'd Never Met You (B Side of Terrifying)
18. Highwire (Flashpoint)
19. Sex Drive (Flashpoint)

Disc 2
1. The Storm (B Side to Love Is Strong)
2. So Young (B Side to Love Is Strong)
3. Jump On Top Of Me (B Side to You Got Me Rockin')
4. I'm Gonna Drive (B Side to Out Of Tears)
5. The Long Black Veil (with The Chieftians, from their 1995 album The Long Black Veil)
6. Paying The Cost To Be The Boss (with B.B. King, on King's 1997 album Deuces Wild)
7. Anyway You Look At It (B Side to Saint Of Me)
8. Honest I Do (Stripped outtake, released on Hope Floats soundtrack)
9. Don't Stop (Forty Licks)
10. Keys To Your Love (Forty Licks)
11. Stealing My Heart (Forty Licks)
12. Losing My Touch (Forty Licks)
13. Extreme Western Grip (Four Flicks)
14. Well Well (Four Flicks)
15. Hurricane (Red Cross charity single)
16. Under The Radar (A Bigger Bang Special Edition)
17. Don't Wanna Go Home (A Bigger Bang Special Edition)

Is this complete? Anybody got any more?

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:03

not sure why the guest appearance the BB King album makes the cut, but if that's the case, what about the Mick/Keith appearances (3 songs) on Jimmy Rogers final album?

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:15

T&A Wrote:
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> not sure why the guest appearance the BB King
> album makes the cut, but if that's the case, what
> about the Mick/Keith appearances (3 songs) on
> Jimmy Rogers final album?

That's a good question, and the same could apply to the Chieftians song The Long Black Veil. I think that in both cases the song is credited on the album as B.B. King (or the Chieftians) and the Rolling Stones, and all four Stones play on it. On the Jimmy Rogers album it was just Mick and Keith and was credited to them, not the Stones. At least I'm pretty sure I have my facts right here - anyone know for sure?

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:17

Long Black Veil features just MJ I believe - there's another track at the end of the album that credits the whole RS band -

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:24

Would that be The Rocky Road To Dublin? Here's the amazon.com listing for the album if that will help jog your memory: [www.amazon.com]

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: T&A ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:27

yep - that's the one - it's not really something a lot of Stones fans would dig - really just a romp through an Irish jig - if someone didn't tell you the Stones were playing on it you wouldn't likely be able to figure it out

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:30

12" B sides of Dance & Feel On Baby.




ROCKMAN

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: erikjjf ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:34

Keith's dub version of Beast Of Burden.

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:58

to me including guest appearances on other people's albums - even if you go with just tracks where at least two Stones appear -
is opening the door to something more like a box set than a double album. just off the top of my head you'd want
~ I Can Feel the Fire and Am I Grooving You from Ronnie's first album
~ at least half of Pay Pack & Follow
~ Truly off Ian McLagan's first album
~ Willie & the Poor Boys
and if you were into concert tracks too, then there's
~ the 1974 Ron Wood & Band gigs,
~ the New Barbarians gigs,
~ Mick & Keith's set at the Concert for NYC
~ etc.
in other words: i'd leave guest appearances for another day and stick with straight Stones stuff.

i'd also leave off those Metamorphosis tracks, because (a) they're on Metamorphosis already, and
(b) except for I'm Going Down, they don't fit your stated timeframe (they were recorded in 1969 or earlier).
[discreet edit: ahem, right: your stated timeframe is *released* after 70. but still: the tracks are already assembled on a "rarities" disk of sorts ... ]

very cool track list, though - carry on!


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 22:18 by with sssoul.

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 21:59

Rockman Wrote:
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> 12" B sides of Dance & Feel On Baby.
>
>
> ROCKMAN

Are those remixes? I'm excluding remixes because there are so many of them that otherwise this would be a boxed set.

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:00

erikjjf Wrote:
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> Keith's dub version of Beast Of Burden.

Is that a remix? Sounds like a remix.

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: Wuudy ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:22

If we're talking guest appaerances, what about Two Trains and Trouble trains with Muddys Waters?! Great songs!!!!

Cheers,
Wuudy

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: ohnonotyouagain ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:42

with sssoul Wrote:
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> to me including guest appearances on other
> people's albums - even if you go with just tracks
> where at least two Stones appear -
> is opening the door to something more like a box
> set than a double album. just off the top of my
> head you'd want
> ~ I Can Feel the Fire and Am I Grooving You from
> Ronnie's first album
> ~ at least half of Pay Pack & Follow
> ~ Truly off Ian McLagan's first album
> ~ Willie & the Poor Boys
> and if you were into concert tracks too, then
> there's
> ~ the 1974 Ron Wood & Band gigs,
> ~ the New Barbarians gigs,
> ~ Mick & Keith's set at the Concert for NYC
> ~ etc.
> in other words: i'd leave guest appearances for
> another day and stick with straight Stones stuff.
>
>
> i'd also leave off those Metamorphosis tracks,
> because (a) they're on Metamorphosis already, and
>
> (b) except for I'm Going Down, they don't fit your
> stated timeframe (they were recorded in 1969 or
> earlier).
>
>
> very cool track list, though - carry on!
>
> "Music, to me, is the joy, right?"
> - Keith
>
> - Keith by Ronnie
>
>
>
> Edited 2 times. Last edit at 11/16/05 22:18 by
> with sssoul.


Good point, I think I will leave off guest appearances. I was trying to limit myself to only guest appearances that were credited to The Rolling Stones (and not just one or more indvidual members), but it is such a grey area that I'm now convinced you're right, guest appearances should be a whole 'nother collection.

Good point about Metamorphosis, too. It was released in '75 but recorded in the '60s, so I will leave those tracks off as well. But what about Memo From Turner? Was that recorded in '69 or '70? And when was Chris Cross Man recorded?

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:48

far as i know Memo was recorded in 68, and CrissCross in 72/73.
but does CrissCross qualify, if the compilation is supposed to be of *released* rarities?
bootlegs/outtakes seem like yet another box set, and a pretty massive one at that.

ps regarding the Metamorphosis tracks: I'm Going Down *does* sort of fit: it was started in 69 and completed in 70.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2005-11-16 22:53 by with sssoul.

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: barcelona ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:50

"Drift away"
"Family"

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: with sssoul ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:55

Family was recorded in 68; and yeah, Drift Away sure belongs on there if outtakes are included! but so do miles and miles of other outtakes too.


"What do you want - what?!"
- Keith

Re: Gazza, with sssoul And Other Experts ... Need Your Help Assembling A Track List For A Better Rarities Album
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 16, 2005 22:56

Dance - 4.40 instrumental version found on the 12 " US promo
Feel On Baby - 6.27 dub version found on b-side of Undercover




ROCKMAN

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