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Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 26, 2021 15:34

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dead.flowers
What about politesse? A word that no dictionary knows. Does he mean politeness or what? Was it ever questioned or explained?

Isn't it about one's political body?

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: dead.flowers ()
Date: November 26, 2021 15:45

In the German language Politesse is the designation for a female parking enforcement officer, which however doesn't fit here.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: MelBelli ()
Date: November 26, 2021 16:00

Refinement, sophistication — “wealth and taste”

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: November 26, 2021 17:35

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GasLightStreet
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DGA35
Sharks will cry from Sparks Will Fly.

That's just poor writing.

grinning smiley

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: November 26, 2021 20:20

I've always taken "fever in the funkhouse now" to be about a horny chick ala "She Was Hot".

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: November 26, 2021 20:21

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MelBelli
Restoration plays:

[www.rsc.org.uk]

Bell, book, and candle:

[en.m.wikipedia.org]

Thanks, I learned something today!

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Elmo Lewis ()
Date: November 26, 2021 20:29

Give me the truth now
Don't want no shame
I'd be hung drawn and quartered for a sheep
Just as a well as a lamb


WTF?

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: November 26, 2021 20:32

Some of his lines really make you wonder if Mick has a confused or expanded grip on religion

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: November 26, 2021 20:45

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Elmo Lewis
Give me the truth now
Don't want no shame
I'd be hung drawn and quartered for a sheep
Just as a well as a lamb


WTF?


In England a few hundred years ago punishment for minor crimes was severe - ie. Deported to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread.

Hung, drawn and quartered was usually reserved for heresy, treason or witchcraft.
Mick probably used it because it's England's most notorious punishment assimilated into everyday usage - ie. Oh, I'm late home from the pub, the wife is going to hang, draw and quarter me.

Hanging was as you expect, but not 'til death, then drawn which meant having your stomach opened with a sword, drawn from your solar plexus down to your groin, so your inardds fell out, then quartered, pull apart by a horse on each limb, or all four limbs chopped off. (all while still alive - harsh)

What Mick means is if you are going to be punished like that, it may as well be for a stealing a sheep rather than something smaller, like a lamb.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-11-26 20:47 by EddieByword.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: KRiffhard ()
Date: November 26, 2021 21:05

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Elmo Lewis
I've always taken "fever in the funkhouse now" to be about a horny chick ala "She Was Hot".

[www.urbandictionary.com]

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: MelBelli ()
Date: November 27, 2021 05:18

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EddieByword
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Elmo Lewis
Give me the truth now
Don't want no shame
I'd be hung drawn and quartered for a sheep
Just as a well as a lamb


WTF?


In England a few hundred years ago punishment for minor crimes was severe - ie. Deported to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread.

Hung, drawn and quartered was usually reserved for heresy, treason or witchcraft.
Mick probably used it because it's England's most notorious punishment assimilated into everyday usage - ie. Oh, I'm late home from the pub, the wife is going to hang, draw and quarter me.

Hanging was as you expect, but not 'til death, then drawn which meant having your stomach opened with a sword, drawn from your solar plexus down to your groin, so your inardds fell out, then quartered, pull apart by a horse on each limb, or all four limbs chopped off. (all while still alive - harsh)

What Mick means is if you are going to be punished like that, it may as well be for a stealing a sheep rather than something smaller, like a lamb.

What Eddie says. More here:

[idioms.thefreedictionary.com]

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: bakersfield ()
Date: November 27, 2021 06:22

I ain’t signifying’

I hear the word ‘signifying’ in a lot of blues songs but I have no idea what it means

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Paddy ()
Date: November 27, 2021 06:36

I love Jigsaw Puzzle but....

“With his methylated sandwich, he's a walking clothesline” - Wtf?

“I'm just trying to do my jig-saw puzzle, bfore it rains anymore” - If he’s inside lying on the floor what does he care if it’s raining?

“And the bass player he looks nervous, about the girls outside” - Least nervous around women of any bass player anywhere ever, he should have been MORE nervous in fact....

And the whole last verse could be a reference I don’t get, but I don’t get the last verse really either.

The whole piece is a bit stream of conscious so I take it as such.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: wupperstein ()
Date: November 27, 2021 08:32

I'm a cold italian pizza, I could use a lemon squeezer, that'ts not really true.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 27, 2021 08:57

I love Jigsaw Puzzle but....

“With his methylated sandwich, he's a walking clothesline” - Wtf?


Alcoholics/tramps would often use bread to dip into
such things as warmed up boot polish or Metho as a way of consuming the alcohol

Walking clothes line -- slang for wearing clothes
straight off clothes line ... not ironed -- clumbled ...



ROCKMAN

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: November 27, 2021 09:30

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wupperstein
I'm a cold italian pizza, I could use a lemon squeezer, that'ts not really true.

maybe a reference to robert johnson's traveling riverside blues

"Now you can squeeze my lemon till the juice run down my
(Till the juice run down my leg, baby, you know what I'm talkin' 'bout)
You can squeeze my lemon till the juice run down my leg
(That's what I'm talkin' about now)"

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: November 27, 2021 09:33

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bakersfield
I ain’t signifying’

I hear the word ‘signifying’ in a lot of blues songs but I have no idea what it means

hard to explain but this should help though
wikipedia

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: StonedRambler ()
Date: November 27, 2021 10:10

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GasLightStreet
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DGA35
Sharks will cry from Sparks Will Fly.

That's just poor writing.
That's not poor writing, it is just not supposed to be taken too seriously. Just as you should not take anything of for example 'Shattered' seriously. It's only rock'n'roll, it's supposed to be fun.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: bakersfield ()
Date: November 27, 2021 11:39

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ProfessorWolf
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bakersfield
I ain’t signifying’

I hear the word ‘signifying’ in a lot of blues songs but I have no idea what it means

hard to explain but this should help though
wikipedia[/quote

Thanks Professor. You have earned your nickname!

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: November 27, 2021 16:58

Walking clothes line...he's as thin as a clothes line, presumably from drug use, or it could also be a reference to being strung out from drugs, as a clothes line is strung up.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-11-27 17:01 by Bliss.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: MizzAmandaJonez ()
Date: November 27, 2021 19:39

"Bainbelled Jangler" ?

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: JJHMick ()
Date: November 27, 2021 19:49

In 1986 I was studying English at university. We had a lecturer from Cambridge, very 'English' from head to toe and always open to argue about who's better Beatles or Stones. He was into the Beatles.
Funny thing was that we were doing a course on phrases, slang and proverbs at the time of Dirty Work. Was it mere coincidence that I suddenly had a clue about what Mick was singing?! He refused to confess.
Seems, the Beatles had no new record out then to quote from...

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: November 27, 2021 20:01

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MizzAmandaJonez
"Bainbelled Jangler" ?

brainbell jangler, he' jangling your bells

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: astmalia ()
Date: November 27, 2021 20:35

I didn't understand the lyrics of "2120 South Michigan Avenue"

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: November 27, 2021 22:28

play it backwards at 78RPM .....
Youll hear the words ...Worlds Greatest Derelict Blues Band....



ROCKMAN

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Paddy ()
Date: November 28, 2021 06:08

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Rockman
I love Jigsaw Puzzle but....

“With his methylated sandwich, he's a walking clothesline” - Wtf?


Alcoholics/tramps would often use bread to dip into
such things as warmed up boot polish or Metho as a way of consuming the alcohol

Walking clothes line -- slang for wearing clothes
straight off clothes line ... not ironed -- clumbled ...

Never knew about that reference ! Cool...

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: November 28, 2021 06:40

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astmalia
I didn't understand the lyrics of "2120 South Michigan Avenue"

turn it up loud enough to make your ears bleed and you'll clearly hear what brian's singing

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: November 28, 2021 08:25

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Elmo Lewis
Give me the truth now
Don't want no shame
I'd be hung drawn and quartered for a sheep
Just as a well as a lamb


WTF?

Actually... as bad as that is, Mick could've said 'cow as well as veal', it really could kinda made sense more so in the 2020-2021... uh, differences in how the older are not necessarily lambs (young sheep) but, well... a kind of equivalent to people on horseback in England kind of not lamb but... chasing after something... while acting like sheep? Kinda "Once upon a time you were my baby chicken..." trip.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: November 28, 2021 11:36

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GasLightStreet
Quote
Elmo Lewis
Give me the truth now
Don't want no shame
I'd be hung drawn and quartered for a sheep
Just as a well as a lamb


WTF?

Actually... as bad as that is, Mick could've said 'cow as well as veal', it really could kinda made sense more so in the 2020-2021... uh, differences in how the older are not necessarily lambs (young sheep) but, well... a kind of equivalent to people on horseback in England kind of not lamb but... chasing after something... while acting like sheep? Kinda "Once upon a time you were my baby chicken..." trip.

It's an old English expression. Mick uses clichés a lot.

Re: Stones' lyrics that ya don't know the meaning
Posted by: Mariuana ()
Date: November 28, 2021 19:24

What I've always been wondering about is where idea for paint it black came from. They were too young to witness it themselves but Mick found exact words to describe that dark and deep depression you feel after losing someone really close and loved one.

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