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I agree it always sounds this way on the recordings and videos, however when I saw them in concert in recent years I always enjoys that mix. But it is certainly a matter of taste.Quote
Justin
The mixers are riding the knobs so aggressively it kind of spoils the natural flow of how they normally play. I suspect if Keith and Ronnie heard the mix from the audience standpoint they would be shocked that it sounds nothing like the "stew" they are hearing themselves of the full band all together.
Dave Natale. Been with em since the ABB tour.Quote
shattered
Who is doing the audio? I can place his face but not the name. He worked with AC/DC too. I tried to search here and no luck.
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StonedRamblerDave Natale. Been with em since the ABB tour.Quote
shattered
Who is doing the audio? I can place his face but not the name. He worked with AC/DC too. I tried to search here and no luck.
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The Joker
Keith blasts through the mix
I suspect if Keith and Ronnie heard the mix from the audience standpoint they would be shocked that it sounds nothing like the "stew" they are hearing themselves of the full band all together.
So you say the mix varies way too much in order
- to match with the particular guitar player on the screen
- also to hide a screwed-up solo or guitar part.
And the junction of the two tactics makes the sound even more erratic
Interesting
I, also, noted that when Keith is on the screen, the volume of his guitar can be silly heavy, maybe to send a not-too-subtle message : Keith is a guitar god, he is soo good, Keith is the man, if it's loud it's good, etc.
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Justin
Pros: Vocals, Steve and Darryl come through amazingly well; crisp, powerful
Cons: Ronnie and Keith fluctuate so drastically in the mix it takes away from their performances; robbing the audience of the natural "weave" and an appreciation of what each guitar player is doing
I miss the "stereo" effect in the live soundscape. In recent years, the sound design is more akin to a "Mono" presentation where certain members are highlighted only one at a time in the center space.
I think the live mix is basically what Scorcese did on "Shine A Light": whenever the camera would be on a particular guitar player the mix would spike up to highlight what we saw on the screen. That is what I feel like the current mix is doing. The guitars are never even throughout an entire song; Keith blasts through the mix for the intro and then basically disappears when Mick starts singing and then reappears again during a solo. The mixers are riding the knobs so aggressively it kind of spoils the natural flow of how they normally play. I suspect if Keith and Ronnie heard the mix from the audience standpoint they would be shocked that it sounds nothing like the "stew" they are hearing themselves of the full band all together.
The way they do things right now only emphasizes when the band has off nights like they did in Tampa. There were times that the mixer's had to cut Keith out of the mix due to a bum note but the result of that left such gaping holes in the mix; making it extra noticeable something has gone wrong. I think their mix style makes it more difficult to work with these issues as they come up.
Anyone have any thoughts about the mix in recent tours?
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Justin
Pros: Vocals, Steve and Darryl come through amazingly well; crisp, powerful
Cons: Ronnie and Keith fluctuate so drastically in the mix it takes away from their performances; robbing the audience of the natural "weave" and an appreciation of what each guitar player is doing
I miss the "stereo" effect in the live soundscape. In recent years, the sound design is more akin to a "Mono" presentation where certain members are highlighted only one at a time in the center space.
I think the live mix is basically what Scorcese did on "Shine A Light": whenever the camera would be on a particular guitar player the mix would spike up to highlight what we saw on the screen. That is what I feel like the current mix is doing. The guitars are never even throughout an entire song; Keith blasts through the mix for the intro and then basically disappears when Mick starts singing and then reappears again during a solo. The mixers are riding the knobs so aggressively it kind of spoils the natural flow of how they normally play. I suspect if Keith and Ronnie heard the mix from the audience standpoint they would be shocked that it sounds nothing like the "stew" they are hearing themselves of the full band all together.
The way they do things right now only emphasizes when the band has off nights like they did in Tampa. There were times that the mixer's had to cut Keith out of the mix due to a bum note but the result of that left such gaping holes in the mix; making it extra noticeable something has gone wrong. I think their mix style makes it more difficult to work with these issues as they come up.
Anyone have any thoughts about the mix in recent tours?
i thought was just crazy nice to see someone else noticed this too
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Justin
Pros: Vocals, Steve and Darryl come through amazingly well; crisp, powerful
Cons: Ronnie and Keith fluctuate so drastically in the mix it takes away from their performances; robbing the audience of the natural "weave" and an appreciation of what each guitar player is doing
I miss the "stereo" effect in the live soundscape. In recent years, the sound design is more akin to a "Mono" presentation where certain members are highlighted only one at a time in the center space.
I think the live mix is basically what Scorcese did on "Shine A Light": whenever the camera would be on a particular guitar player the mix would spike up to highlight what we saw on the screen. That is what I feel like the current mix is doing. The guitars are never even throughout an entire song; Keith blasts through the mix for the intro and then basically disappears when Mick starts singing and then reappears again during a solo. The mixers are riding the knobs so aggressively it kind of spoils the natural flow of how they normally play. I suspect if Keith and Ronnie heard the mix from the audience standpoint they would be shocked that it sounds nothing like the "stew" they are hearing themselves of the full band all together.
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Justin
Pros: Vocals, Steve and Darryl come through amazingly well; crisp, powerful
Cons: Ronnie and Keith fluctuate so drastically in the mix it takes away from their performances; robbing the audience of the natural "weave" and an appreciation of what each guitar player is doing
I miss the "stereo" effect in the live soundscape. In recent years, the sound design is more akin to a "Mono" presentation where certain members are highlighted only one at a time in the center space.
I think the live mix is basically what Scorcese did on "Shine A Light": whenever the camera would be on a particular guitar player the mix would spike up to highlight what we saw on the screen. That is what I feel like the current mix is doing. The guitars are never even throughout an entire song; Keith blasts through the mix for the intro and then basically disappears when Mick starts singing and then reappears again during a solo. The mixers are riding the knobs so aggressively it kind of spoils the natural flow of how they normally play. I suspect if Keith and Ronnie heard the mix from the audience standpoint they would be shocked that it sounds nothing like the "stew" they are hearing themselves of the full band all together.
The way they do things right now only emphasizes when the band has off nights like they did in Tampa. There were times that the mixer's had to cut Keith out of the mix due to a bum note but the result of that left such gaping holes in the mix; making it extra noticeable something has gone wrong. I think their mix style makes it more difficult to work with these issues as they come up.
Anyone have any thoughts about the mix in recent tours?
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Cooltoplady
They are not riding the knobs. Mick’s vocals run through a compressor that squash the sound when vocals are introduced. Every live band uses this in venues
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Cooltoplady
Depends were you sit. That’s all there is too it. You sit in one section it sounds bad , you sit down n smother and it’s clear as a bell