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StonedRambler
I hope you're treating your loved ones better than doubting everything they are and do just because they did one stupid mistake.
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When stage monitoring is really loud it is possible you lose your reference to pitch since overtones can cover up and interfere each other......
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Lady Jayne
I'm curious about what people think about the suggestions in the comments to this Youtube clip, namely, that Keith plays much better when seated.
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I don't know where this clip comes from but it does look relatively recent. Obviously you can't compare studio conditions with live performances but it wouldn't be surprising if all the wandering around he seems to feel he has to do on huge stadia stages distracted from the playing at his age.
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
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Lady Jayne
I'm curious about what people think about the suggestions in the comments to this Youtube clip, namely, that Keith plays much better when seated.
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I don't know where this clip comes from but it does look relatively recent. Obviously you can't compare studio conditions with live performances but it wouldn't be surprising if all the wandering around he seems to feel he has to do on huge stadia stages distracted from the playing at his age.
I think in the last few shows he plays the intro for Gimme Shelter seated, no?
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
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Stoneage
A comparison from 1990 (my first Stones gig):
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
“The Rolling Stones as a garage band” — sorry folks, I kind of like this novelty idea in some twisted state of my mind and senses. There’s something fascinating about it, which I can’t fully explain why myself.
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Stoneage
A comparison from 1990 (my first Stones gig):
Sad Sad Sad
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RisingStone
Watching the visual recorded material of the performances of the Stones after turning 40, 50 or even 60, have you ever felt they were younger than you thought back then, and playing brilliantly?
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Yeah, the 'old' Stones of 1989 seem like young whippersnappers compared to now.
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
So true, remember the Stones are part of the elite these days, a clean up operation follows them.
I didn't want to be the first to say it but, Steve's drums were off too and im a huge supporter of Steve.
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StonedRamblerYeah, totally rediculous how a thread called "Keith's playing better this tour" is now turning to "he should call it a day" because of ONE screwed up solo on Sad Sad Sad. I said at the beginning of this tour that he plays about the same he played since 2012, he's only more vital and fit on stage. People always are looking for sensations and tend to get overly excited so at the start of every tour you are hearing the usual "they're paying better than ever". Your own emotions are not always reality. Truth is that Keith is playing solid like most of the time since 2012. And now and then he has his usual screw-ups which also do not mean the end of the world. No reason to make a drama out of it.Quote
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Phase 1: Keith's playing is better than in years!
Phase 2: They haven't been this good since 1999!
Phase 3: Keith messed up! What was he thinking!?
Phase 4: Keith is heading downhill and needs to rest
Phase 5: They should retire
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
So true, remember the Stones are part of the elite these days, a clean up operation follows them.
I didn't want to be the first to say it but, Steve's drums were off too and im a huge supporter of Steve.
Rubbish. Steve's drums weren't off just as Mick's voice wasn't off as you claimed in a previous post - the point is that Keith just completely f****d up his solo and that's all.
And, being the class act that Keith actually is he will be the first to admit that it was his fault and his fault only, instead of seeking excuses and blaming other band members like you obviously feel the need to do in your desperate attempts to save the face of your hero and let me say - he does not need it.
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
So true, remember the Stones are part of the elite these days, a clean up operation follows them.
I didn't want to be the first to say it but, Steve's drums were off too and im a huge supporter of Steve.
Rubbish. Steve's drums weren't off just as Mick's voice wasn't off as you claimed in a previous post - the point is that Keith just completely f****d up his solo and that's all.
And, being the class act that Keith actually is he will be the first to admit that it was his fault and his fault only, instead of seeking excuses and blaming other band members like you obviously feel the need to do in your desperate attempts to save the face of your hero and let me say - he does not need it.
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Markdog
Sad x3 is simply a horrible song. Clearly Micks and an attempt at a modern rock song of its time. Very commercial and cold.
Chuck Berry licks make no sense on this song style and it should be Ronnie's lead since he'd do something more suited.
Poorly played chuck licks in the wrong key...I nominate as the worst solo by a professional musician in years.
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
So true, remember the Stones are part of the elite these days, a clean up operation follows them.
I didn't want to be the first to say it but, Steve's drums were off too and im a huge supporter of Steve.
Rubbish. Steve's drums weren't off just as Mick's voice wasn't off as you claimed in a previous post - the point is that Keith just completely f****d up his solo and that's all.
And, being the class act that Keith actually is he will be the first to admit that it was his fault and his fault only, instead of seeking excuses and blaming other band members like you obviously feel the need to do in your desperate attempts to save the face of your hero and let me say - he does not need it.
I liked this version - it was more energetic and better than previous ones after 1990.
However, Keith's solo is in the wrong key and Mick is under pitch for the good part of the song.
But they played it well, and it rocked.
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Stoneage
Where did all the SSS videos go? The first thing I noticed about that song was not Keith's cacophony, that is part of the equation these days - it was Jordan's drumming. He is kind of one pace ahead of the other throughout the song. Not one step behind like Charlie. It is very much the Stones x 0,6 now. The rhythm section is gone and the guitar section is struggling. Garage band charm? Or not?
So true, remember the Stones are part of the elite these days, a clean up operation follows them.
I didn't want to be the first to say it but, Steve's drums were off too and im a huge supporter of Steve.
Rubbish. Steve's drums weren't off just as Mick's voice wasn't off as you claimed in a previous post - the point is that Keith just completely f****d up his solo and that's all.
And, being the class act that Keith actually is he will be the first to admit that it was his fault and his fault only, instead of seeking excuses and blaming other band members like you obviously feel the need to do in your desperate attempts to save the face of your hero and let me say - he does not need it.
I liked this version - it was more energetic and better than previous ones after 1990.
However, Keith's solo is in the wrong key and Mick is under pitch for the good part of the song.
But they played it well, and it rocked.
Really? Then my ears must be deaf! Old age, what can I do? Better listen to the YouTube video on a good system? Honestly, Mick may sound a bit shakey here and there - not unusual with rarely played numbers, but "under pitch for the good part of the song" is a vast exaggeration imo.
Again, Keith does not gneed an excuse for his solo. And that goes for whoever is responsible for the guitar bum note(s) at the start of the song, too.