So we're judging this by a cell phone recording?

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Thanks! You live and learn.

I didn't know the song being a cover (until Mick said last night) and anything about The Chi-Lites. Checked them from Wiki, and damn, this Chicago-based R&B/soul vocal quartet was founded in 1959 and still going on, and one of the founders, Marshall Thompson, still onboard. Their peak years were early 70's. Seemingly "Trouble's A' Comin" is a single B-side from 1970. The A-side was "Are You A Woman" - of which samples were used by Beyonce Knowles in her 2004 Grammy-winning (and whatever) "Crazy In Love".

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What a historical and emotional night it was in a tent at the Gillette Stadium on September 20.
We entered the venue at 20.30, had to give our names and proof of full vaccination and found our way to the tent.
The very first Stones gig since 2019, the first show of their 2021 tour and, unfortunately, the very first show without Charlie Watts.

Robert Kraft came on stage at 21.00 and did a short introduction speech about the stones playing in Gillette for the first time in 2002 and that this was for his recent big birthday adding that every Birthday is a blessing and he wanted everyone attending to embrace life and enjoy the moment with the greatest rock and roll band in the world.
2 minutes later the Stones were on; we expected a very standard short setlist with only the well known songs but what a surprise it was: Let’s Spend The Night Together as opener!
Mick was looking great and powerful as always, Keith with a black beanie on his head, Ronnie’s hair re-growing strongly after his treatment this year and Steve, with sunglasses, smiling all the time.
After Tumbling Dice there it was, Charlie being honoured: Mick, Keith and Ronnie, huddled together arms around each others shoulders, obviously touched. Mick mentioned that it was their first tour in 59 years without Charlie Watts. That they miss Charlie so much, miss him as a band, miss him as friends, many memories and he was sure that he will be missed by everyone who ever attended a concert and he would like to dedicate this show to Charlie. Ronnie added: "Charlie we’re praying and playing for you”
After these emotional words we got another unexpected song: Under My thumb.
It was with this song that I paid a bit more attention to Steve: his drumming was, as expected, more firm and robust, but absolutely not too loud and certainly not as dominant as he was with the Winos.
After this it was time for “ A song we never performed before on stage, only at home and recorded ages ago and will be on the rerelease of the tattoo You Album. An obscure cover called Trouble’s A Coming”
This song circulated in trading circles for a couple of months but it’s a safe bet to say that no one in the audience ever heard this one before! The yet unreleased outtake version has a nice falsetto but Jagger didn’t do that tonight. Makes me wonder how the version on the rerelease of Tattoo You will be…..
Next was the premiere of Ghost Town, which worked out really well with great harmonica and good audience participation.
Then Mick said happy birthday to Robert Kraft and said that Its so nice to play for someone even older than we are”
After You Can’t Always Get What You Want we got Midnight Rambler; really miss Charlie on this song.
The band introduction was very interesting too. Steve Jordan was introduced as "a great friend of Charlie and the first show with us, Steve Jordan” Steve, being very humble, stayed at his drum kit.
Another highlight of the show was the 'saxophone weaving' between Tim Ries and Karl Denson on Miss You, stunning!
19th Nervous Breakdown is a keeper and then we got the usual warhorses like Start Me Up, Gimme Shelter, Sympathy For The Devil, Jumpin’ Jack Flash and as ecore, Satisfaction. Interesting detail: Street Fighting Man was mentioned on the setlist but wasn’t played. Quite surprisingly Brown Sugar and Honky Tonk Women weren’t played, which you would expect in a private show..
Time for the bow: first with the entire band, then Keith all but disappeared and I got the impression he needed a little encouragement to come back out to bow as just a three without Charlie.
We had an amazing night; my advice: I feel the best way to honour Charlie is go out en see ‘em!


Hendrik Mulder

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...I compared Charlie's drum style to a dancer that glides across the floor, where as Steve Jordan walks like an elephant as the phrase goes.

Really takes the band from being guitar driven to the guitars trying to cut through the drumming.

True enough - a completely different animal so to speak.
Some will be able to either overlook, ignore, and/or embrace the differences, while others will either learn to live with it or reject it.
No doubt it will take some getting used to for those that are willing, but sadly it will never be the same as it was...

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That's one of the better quality clips out there - last minute of Satisfaction. Worth the watch! thanks!

If they had bowed out after Charlie's passing they would have earned my eternal respect. Now it feels like a freak show to me. The song Doom and Gloom has become reality.Jagger doesn't look like a front man but a ring leader, a subtle difference. But I do respect the fans who feel differently.

Thanks for that great write up Hendrik! Not even gonna ask how you got in - just, good for you! Excellent, 'well balanced' report.

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If they had bowed out after Charlie's passing they would have earned my eternal respect. Now it feels like a freak show to me. The song Doom and Gloom has become reality.Jagger doesn't look like a front man but a ring leader, a subtle difference. But I do respect the fans who feel differently.

This autumn's shows are OK. I hope that they will manage next year's anniversary decently and after some shows reminding their great legacy they will bow out, preferably releasing the last album with Charlie's tracks, too. That would be a great farewell to greatest rock'n'roll band.

If they decide to continue even after that, I'll respect that, but it's appropriate to say that it's different band then, playing Stones' songs.

Listen to the Winos ballads: “Make No Mistake,” “Locked Away,” “Hate It When You Leave,” “Demon.” He absolutely could play dynamically and with a light touch.

Congratulations Hendrik on getting into the show that is awesome.
Sounds like a great show hope you were able to get some great photographs.
Enjoy the tour.

Nate

Thanks for the details, Hendrik! Glad you were able to give us an eye witness account. Looking forward to Sunday in St. Louis

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Listen to the Winos ballads: “Make No Mistake,” “Locked Away,” “Hate It When You Leave,” “Demon.” He absolutely could play dynamically and with a light touch.

Hate it when you leave - no light touch, rather extensive drumming [www.youtube.com]

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Listen to the Winos ballads: “Make No Mistake,” “Locked Away,” “Hate It When You Leave,” “Demon.” He absolutely could play dynamically and with a light touch.

Hate it when you leave - no light touch, rather extensive drumming [www.youtube.com]

What do you mean by “extensive”?

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Listen to the Winos ballads: “Make No Mistake,” “Locked Away,” “Hate It When You Leave,” “Demon.” He absolutely could play dynamically and with a light touch.

Hate it when you leave - no light touch, rather extensive drumming [www.youtube.com]

What do you mean by “extensive”?

Louder, more frequent and having that high pitch "crashing end". Listen to Stones ballads how dynamic and gentle drumming sounds, Hate it when you leave is not that case. Jordan starts a rhythm and goes with it through the whole song, kind of machine-like precision.



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Summary of the RS-App Video-snippets:



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Jagger statement:

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Jagger statement:

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"Charlie" .... [www.Instagram.com] , [www.Facebook.com] .



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O see Mich just posted s clip on his FB where he talks about the poignancy of this show/tour

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Mick Jagger video on Insta is the best thing for Charlie. Thanks guys. Life goes on. Poignant but lively, that's the spirit.

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Listen to the Winos ballads: “Make No Mistake,” “Locked Away,” “Hate It When You Leave,” “Demon.” He absolutely could play dynamically and with a light touch.

Hate it when you leave - no light touch, rather extensive drumming [www.youtube.com]

What do you mean by “extensive”?

Louder, more frequent and having that high pitch "crashing end". Listen to Stones ballads how dynamic and gentle drumming sounds, Hate it when you leave is not that case. Jordan starts a rhythm and goes with it through the whole song, kind of machine-like precision.

Listen, there’s no accounting for taste. There’s really no right or wrong here. But I enjoy a lot of “pop” in a snare drum. Charlie did, too.

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Listen to the Winos ballads: “Make No Mistake,” “Locked Away,” “Hate It When You Leave,” “Demon.” He absolutely could play dynamically and with a light touch.

Hate it when you leave - no light touch, rather extensive drumming [www.youtube.com]

What do you mean by “extensive”?

Louder, more frequent and having that high pitch "crashing end". Listen to Stones ballads how dynamic and gentle drumming sounds, Hate it when you leave is not that case. Jordan starts a rhythm and goes with it through the whole song, kind of machine-like precision.

Listen, there’s no accounting for taste. There’s really no right or wrong here. But I enjoy a lot of “pop” in a snare drum. Charlie did, too.

Yes somebody may like it. But sound of the Stones has been different from how Steve Jordan played.

Okay so for everone who's expecting a sincere tribute at the upcoming shows, if this doesn't do it for you, you're going to be disappointed. It's the only thing possible in their onstage mindset

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Okay so for everone who's expecting a sincere tribute at the upcoming shows, if this doesn't do it for you, you're going to be disappointed. It's the only thing possible in their onstage mindset

Yes this tribute is awesome and very moving.

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Am I the only one to whom this seems rather seedy and depressing?

You’re not the only one, no.

Playingthese shows for billionaires is not appealing. Be The Cockroaches again and sneak into small clubs where us regular fans might be

Tough crowd over here.

I like what i have seen and heard. God bless this guys

Thanks Hendrik, i really appreciate the time and effort in your post. It was the review i wanted to read all along.

***Can't you hear me knocking?***

Great tribute, seriously great.

Thank you Hendrik, for your report.