It’s probably an obvious one, but how Charlie comes back in just after the solo before the last chorus of Wild horses.

The first Stones song I heard after his passing was Get Off Of My Cloud. It really choked me up.


But the one thing I will miss is seeing Charlie sitting at the drum kit in the dark waiting for the house lights to come on during the first song of the show. You could always see Charlie at his kit during the video intro.



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Street Fighting Man from Ya Ya's.

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Thanks Keith! I just said the same about Charlie's "place" within the Rolling Stones the other day during a Monday evening radio interview about Charlie. Together with Bill he was the heartbeat of the Rolling Stones. Others can only have the honour and joy to copy them as best as they can. Keith will be hit the most doing his thing without the présence of Charlie.
Best of luck Keith. Still hope to see you again one day.

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Can't pick just one tune as I've been listening to Stones nearly 24/7 since Charlie passed...reminds me of when John Lennon passed away and all I listened to was Beatles and Lennon solo tunes for at least a week.

However, there's one picture that has made the biggest impression on me that was posted on Keith's instagram...speaks volumes, and still makes me sad....

I made this the backdrop for my computer. In the week that has passed, I had wanted to go to the opening show and pay my respects, be amongst those who get it. But now, 7-11-15 is my final show. I want to remember the band as they were, not in their prime, but on fire nonetheless. The band without Charlie is simply not The Rolling Stones to me. I will continue to grow my music collection with their releases, but I will no longer go to any shows. Twelve is my magic number, alas. So close to my lucky 13. They are indeed closed, and I wish to God they would go the way of Zep.



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In the week that has gone by since Charlie's death, I know we are all listening and re-listening to songs with new and deeper appreciations - question - what is the one moment/ piece of music that has most affected you this past week? - for me it's the drum outro to time Waits For No One... tears in my eyes each time I hear it..

what yours?

Mine is "If you can't rock me" .. "the drummer thinks that he is dynamite"

Anyway the outro of "Time waits for no one" is the perfect match for the Charlie "closed" drums photo!

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Funeral Blues

Various lines of this poem by WH Auden keep circling my head.
I know it's inappropriate in a few ways, but it's beautiful,
it has cool rhythms, and change or two can make it for Charlie.


Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the guitars to hear the silent drum.
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message ‘He is Dead’.
Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

He was our North, our South, our East and West,
Our working week and our Sunday rest,
Our noon, our midnight, our talk, our song;
I thought the Stones would last forever. I was wrong.

The stars are not wanted now; put out every one,
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun,
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;
For nothing now can ever come to any good.

Damn, sssoul, that is perfect. You can tell because I’m weeping again. So glad to see you here, but very saddened by the reason. Thank you.

This was recited in the movie "Four Weddings and a Funeral" I was watching it a couple weeks ago. Great movie.

Mine is "If You Can't Rock Me," but they transformed it as they played it live, and the LA Friday 75 version just blows me away each time I hear it, the way Charlie did the rolling, galloping drum riff, it feels like a stampeding herd of horses running you over....

So it has been over a week and we still do not know how Charlie passed on.


The only other celeberity that I can think of in that being over a week
after their passing and still not real clue is another great ..
Marvelous Marvin Hagler (in which the general public still does not know .. which
I find incredibly strange in this day and age considering he passed on months ago).

Does anyone have any idea?

*NOTE: The very last thing I want is to disrupt the privacy of Charlie Watts
.. being as how he was I know he definately would not want that (as well as his family should get that respect). So please please do not pry or attempt to dig into this if they happen to know someone within range of the CW crowd ...especially on my behalf. I was simply wondering if anyone knew by now?


Ian



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[www.YouTube.com] - in French by ARTE TV




[www.YouTube.com] - Charlie Watts Interview 1971 (French voice-over)




[www.YouTube.com] - by ARTE TV (until 30-Sep-2021) - [iorr.org]




[www.YouTube.com] - by ARTE TV (until 1-Oct-2021) - [iorr.org]



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So it has been over a week and we still do not know how Charlie passed on.


The only other celeberity that I can think of in that being over a week
after their passing and still not real clue is another great ..
Marvelous Marvin Hagler (in which the general public still does not know .. which
I find incredibly strange in this day and age considering he passed on months ago).

Does anyone have any idea?


Ian

I quess there aren't (m)any leaks in his inner circle. And when the family decides they do not want to share his cause of death with the public, then it can take a while until we get to know. Eventually we will, no doubt about it.
I think it's the combination of Charlie being not a public person at all (nowadays) and the fact that he was 80 years old and not used social media.

The fact that absolutely nothing is known about his funeral does surprise me though..

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swiss~!!

Naturalust!!

Love this pic from Mick's 50th b'day.

Hard Rock- Times Square

Axel Zwingenberger and Ben Waters - A musical tribute to friend and mentor Charlie Watts with very special guests

17 September
Tivoli Theatre Wimborne
[www.tivoliwimborne.co.uk]

18 September
The Cadogan Hall
[cadoganhall.com]

Does anyone else think the band are going to make a statement soon on the future? Maybe after the tour?

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Does anyone else think the band are going to make a statement soon on the future?

They'll probably go on without a statement since there were also no statements about the recent replacements in their Touring-Band.

It'll be interesting how they commemorate Charlie live on stage during the Tour and also how they introduce Steve Jordan.

I Played Jazz With Charlie Watts For 20 Years. Here's What I Learned

Tim Ries
September 2, 2021


Charlie Watts onstage with Tim Ries' jazz tribute act, The Rolling Stones Project, at a London venue in 2013./Richard Kerris

Musician Tim Ries has been a touring member of The Rolling Stones since 1999, playing woodwinds and keys. But he also enjoyed a special relationship with drummer Charlie Watts, as their shared love of jazz bloomed into a series of collaborations. Watts died Aug. 24 at age 80; below is Ries' remembrance of a few exceptional moments from their two-decade friendship.

On my first tour with The Rolling Stones, I remember looking over at Charlie Watts during "Moonlight Mile." My keyboard was set up close to his drum kit, facing him, almost how it would be if we were on a small club stage instead of in an arena. I'd been hired in January 1999 as part of the band's incredible extended ensemble: playing saxophone in the horn section along with Bobby Keys, trumpeter Kent Smith and trombonist Michael Davis, as well as keyboard, piano and organ next to Chuck Leavell. But during that song, whose drum part is played with mallets, I listened to Charlie and all I could hear was Elvin Jones, playing a mallet part behind John Coltrane.

The thought was still with me when I got back home to New York. When I recorded my next jazz album, Alternate Side, for the European label Criss Cross, I snuck in an instrumental version of "Moonlight Mile" as a tribute to what I'd experienced. I just couldn't get over how Charlie played.

It is no secret that Mr. Watts was a lover of jazz, that great American music, that swing. And much has been written about how that love helped shape the sound of the Stones, through the legacy of the many brilliant drummers he listened to as a young man growing up in England. But those who knew him will tell you that his life wasn't defined by keeping time, but by giving it — to friends and near-strangers and the music he loved, whether on or off the bandstand.

Just before the next Stones tour, for the 40th anniversary compilation Forty Licks, I got an idea: to arrange an album's worth of the band's songs for a jazz group to perform. For players, I would draw from my circle of musician friends in New York — John Patitucci on bass, Brian Blade on drums, Ben Monder on guitar and Bill Charlap on piano. And maybe, I thought, I could convince Charlie to participate on a track or two.

As rehearsals began, I shared a few demos with Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, just to be sure I had their blessing. Then, on a flight from Atlanta to Los Angeles, I asked Charlie if he might take part in the sessions. "Absolutely," he said. "And you should ask Keith."

I was gobsmacked. "Ask Keith?"

"Yes," he replied. Then, before I could react, he added: "I'll ask him."

And with that, he walked to the front of the plane. I was still processing the shock when he returned a moment later with Keith and Ronnie Wood behind him. Keith said, "We're all in, mate." I was speechless. My little jazz quintet date was becoming something quite different.

At that next session in LA, the expanded lineup included Charlie, Keith and Ronnie, Stones bassist Darryl Jones and organist Larry Goldings, and one of the band's frequent opening acts, Sheryl Crow. We recorded Keith's song "Slipping Away," one of my favorites, and "Honky Tonk Women," with the saxophone playing the lead vocal part and Sheryl and Keith singing backup. At the end of the day, everyone had left except for Charlie, Larry and me. I asked Charlie if he would mind trying one more pass at "Honky Tonk Women" as an organ trio, the way you might hear Jimmy Smith or Brother Jack McDuff do it. He immediately said yes, and the three of us recorded the song in one take. Larry put down a serious groove, and Charlie, I must say, was swinging his ass off.

For the next few years, I recorded in locations all around the world while the Stones were on tour. I eventually released two full albums of their music: The Rolling Stones Project, on Concord Records in 2005, and Stones World: The Rolling Stones Project II, on Sunnyside Records in 2008. There were sessions in Munich and Portugal, in Paris and London, and the roster of guests grew to include around 80 musicians and singers, with even Mick joining in on the second record. And every time I asked Charlie to participate, he said yes.

Once those recordings were out, I started to spend my off nights on tour performing gigs with Bernard Fowler, who has been singing backup with the Stones since the late '80s. Over and over, Charlie would come to those shows to listen to who I had in the band. When jazz drummers go out to see other groups perform, there is a history, I would even say a childlike passion, of finding a seat in the house as close as possible to the drummer, so they can observe their playing up close: the ride cymbal patterns, the left hand technique, the bass drum and hi-hat footwork. (You'll see this if you ever visit the Village Vanguard in New York, where there is seating basically right next to the drummer's position onstage.) Charlie would watch the drummers and get inspired — and in many instances, even though he was mainly there to hang, he would wind up joining us onstage by the end of the night. I daresay he came to 50 gigs and sat in at 48 of them.

On nights when I didn't have a gig, Charlie and I would go see which jazz groups were playing at clubs and theaters in the cities our route took us through — not just New York but Chicago, Detroit, Melbourne, Sydney, Mexico City, Tokyo. He was famously indifferent to the glamour of the rock and roll touring life, but when he was on the jazz scene he was really in his element: He could hang with all the cats, because he was one of the cats. Still, even he could be starstruck from time to time. One night in Pittsburgh, we went to hear the Dizzy Gillespie All-Star Big Band, which featured Frank Wess, James Moody and Jimmy Heath in the sax section. Backstage, Charlie was like a young boy again, in disbelief that he was standing in the same room as three of his heroes. Just when it seemed like things couldn't get better, Jimmy Heath got our attention and started dancing around the dressing room. This jazz master, for our amusement, was doing his best Mick Jagger impression. Charlie got quite a chuckle from that sight.

We heard so much incredible music on those nights out, and after each gig we would go backstage to rap to the musicians. Of course, everyone knew who Charlie was. But to their surprise, he knew who they were as well. Beyond the the 1940s and '50s jazz he'd grown up with, he was always interested in listening to the newest and youngest stars on the scene, and he always took the time to visit and chat with each player — not as the star that he was, but just as a devoted lover of the music. Many of the musicians were friends of mine, and I would invariably get a call or an email the next day or even the same night, telling me how special the experience had been, how gentle and kind Charlie was to them.

The most important thing a drummer can offer to a band, and the most important thing one person can offer to another, is time. Charlie Watts exemplified this better than anyone I know. He used his time to celebrate the music that had given so much to him. He reveled in being around jazz players, but in those moments backstage and in the studio, he offered his attention to everyone else — to friends of friends, to people he'd never met — because they interested him too. He was The Rolling Stones' timekeeper for nearly 60 years, but when he wasn't onstage with the biggest rock band there ever was, he was giving all that time back.

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Thanks, bye bye Johnny, that’s the loveliest thing I’ve read yet about Charlie.

Tim's eloquent tribute is so cool to share his personal jazz club outings with Charlie - a real bird's eye view of their musical bond.



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Thanks, bye bye Johnny, that’s the loveliest thing I’ve read yet about Charlie.

Thank you indeed, bye bye Johnny. Fascinating and insightful.

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Thanks, bye bye Johnny, that’s the loveliest thing I’ve read yet about Charlie.

Agreed. Really his Gentleman-ness just keeps growing and growing.

Just the most beautiful and tender tribute from Tim Ries. Speaks volumes about the calibre of person, let alone musician, Charlie was.

The loss of Charlie Watts is with sadness. I am delighted though what wonderful tributes he has received in the days after his passing. He inspired countless people and passed the torch. Good luck t all of you on this board!

by by johnny, I'm joining in to thank you for posting the entire Tim Ries tribute.
I saw the link on FB earlier to day and read it, and a most beautiful piece, it is.

(Irix, what changes in the external touring band?)

~"Love is Strong"~

I don't know if this has been posted before on this thread, but I always remember an interview with Charlie where he really gave Mick Taylor the thumbs up for how good he was at playing as a member of The Rolling Stones.

Heard it many years ago somewhere but can't find it now.
Always brings me to tears just lately watching this, even though I've seen it many times lately.

No words needed.

God Bless you Charlie.

Legendary drummer’s visit to Frost School memorable



As the world mourns the loss of Charlie Watts, drummer for the Rolling Stones, Shelly Berg, dean of the Frost School of Music, remembers the time when the musician made a special visit to the University.
Dean Shelly Berg said he will never forget the time in 2016 when Charlie Watts—the longtime Rolling Stones drummer who passed away Aug. 24 at age 80—surprised students and stopped by the University of Miami Frost School of Music to jam with them and talk about life in the entertainment business.

“You should have seen the faces of our students when Watts, along with singer-percussionist Bernard Fowler and saxophonist Tim Ries, walked into the room. It was complete disbelief,” he recalled.

The Stones’ musicians had reached out to Berg to see if they could bring some new big band charts by for a read-through. The trio had come to perform jazz arrangements of Rolling Stones’ songs with the students of the Frost Concert Jazz Band. It was supposed to be a quick visit, but Watts truly made it a special learning opportunity for the students.

“He stayed for about an hour and a half after the group played some music and talked to our students and our drummers, answering questions from the eager musicians,” recounted Berg. “Watts was a collector of drum sets and he had owned drums from some of the most famous jazz artists in history. So, just talking to students about what it was like to own these gems was a great educational experience for them.”

Berg noted that Watts’ dedication to the students was a testimony to his personality.

“He will always be remembered as a legendary musician and also as a kind and gentle person,” said Berg. “There's a lot to learn from the person Charlie was. He proved that fame doesn't have to change who you are as a person.”

The dean pointed out that Watts was known for being reserved and that he was not a fan of the spotlight.

“He was not caught up at all with his fame. You wouldn't think he was aware of it. It just wasn't what made him go,” he said.

A longtime jazz lover, Watts always marched to the beat of his own drum.

“Something that I always thought was really unique was that he played a jazz drum set the entire time with the Rolling Stones. For those who don’t know, these kinds of drums only include four pieces, compared to the traditional rock drum sets which include about 6 or 7,” explained Berg. “Watts was never tempted to change that and fall into the big hoopla. He always stayed true to his style.”

According to Berg, Watts’ impact on the jazz world will forever live on.

“He lured people to check out jazz. A lot of people tuned in because of him, not because they were jazz fans. So, I think that created an opportunity for new audiences to discover the genre,” said Berg.

Berg said that he hopes that students can learn from his legacy.

“They can learn that there are very subtle things that make a difference between good and great, and they are not always readily apparent,” Berg said. “It's easy to focus on the things that are flashy and the things that seem to be exciting, but I think students can learn that at some basic level. It's the subtle taking care of business as a musician that makes a difference.”
[news.miami.edu]

Found a gem of as short vid.. May 25 2018 London. Final Bow - some very nice band interaction and close up of Charlie. 0:54 forward in particular but some cool stuff before. I was getting jostled around a bit so bumpy

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(Irix, what changes in the external touring band?)

Bobby Keys -> Karl Denson, Lisa Fischer -> Sasha Allen, Brass section: Andy Snitzer, Michael Davis, Kent Smith -> Tim Ries, leaving of Blondie Chaplin, return of Matt Clifford .... and so on.