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All the LED screen talk reminded me of another thought I don't think I've seen here yet.
At every show, maybe during the band introductions, I fully expect for Charlie to be projected onto the screens in a brief but live (complete with the usual annoying but minor dialogue delays) video chat with the boys and Steve, and a brief hello-how-are-you to the crowds. Hopefully he'll be able to see us like we see him, so he'll see what he's missing.
Charlie will confirm he's doing better. Tell us he hates not being there playing, but will stress what good hands the shows are in with Steve. And so forth, all in the course of conversing with the official representative of the 50,000 of us, Mick. During which we'll witness that, yes, it is Charlie live and not a pre-recorded vid. That he can hear us, and experience a little crowd noise from us.
Maybe three minutes, and done. Nothing fancy.
What will be the point? We'll see Charlie! He'll see us! He'll get to feel a little vicarious involvement in the night. Everybody will feel better, will be the point.
It also reassures everybody that Charlie is recovering... we see it for ourselves... and signals that yes he is still a Rolling Stone and will return to touring soon.
About the time differences, yes I know Charlie is a man who likes his set hours and routines, including bedtime. And that 10 PM in, say, Dallas, is 4 AM in England. So the little live video appearances will be an inconvenience for him roughly once every four days. But I think he'll be happy to do them anyway. They'll be for him, too. He's going to feel antsy being home while for the first time in his life the rest of the Rolling Stones are on tour without him. The little live video drop-ins will let him feel more connected to it.
And if he recovers well enough, who knows, he may wind up doing only half a tour of these wee hours video calls before he actually starts turning up at concerts... maybe about Vegas, or Dallas, or Tampa... and even drumming on a couple of songs per show. (See that wild speculation a page or two back).
As satire, the post is quite good. But I think you might be serious.
Like Charlie would ever be a part of such a lame-ass idea, a video chat into a concert (or playing on a song or two or a hologram or anything else other than staying home in England).
He's not there, he's not playing, he doesn't want any applause at shows he's not at, nor does he want to step on the musicians who are playing, i.e. Jordan. He has too much class for any of these ideas.
Just my opinion.
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I just don't get how Mick and Keith can do this !
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Well I think it is interesting that if it were Mick, there is no way there would be a show. Not possible.
In the very strict sense of the words, even this wouldn’t be the case.
During the Keith set, Mick leaves the stage, completely off sight.
No one doubts they are “The Rolling Stones”
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TheBluesHadaBaby
All the LED screen talk reminded me of another thought I don't think I've seen here yet.
At every show, maybe during the band introductions, I fully expect for Charlie to be projected onto the screens in a brief but live (complete with the usual annoying but minor dialogue delays) video chat with the boys and Steve, and a brief hello-how-are-you to the crowds. Hopefully he'll be able to see us like we see him, so he'll see what he's missing.
Charlie will confirm he's doing better. Tell us he hates not being there playing, but will stress what good hands the shows are in with Steve. And so forth, all in the course of conversing with the official representative of the 50,000 of us, Mick. During which we'll witness that, yes, it is Charlie live and not a pre-recorded vid. That he can hear us, and experience a little crowd noise from us.
Maybe three minutes, and done. Nothing fancy.
What will be the point? We'll see Charlie! He'll see us! He'll get to feel a little vicarious involvement in the night. Everybody will feel better, will be the point.
It also reassures everybody that Charlie is recovering... we see it for ourselves... and signals that yes he is still a Rolling Stone and will return to touring soon.
About the time differences, yes I know Charlie is a man who likes his set hours and routines, including bedtime. And that 10 PM in, say, Dallas, is 4 AM in England. So the little live video appearances will be an inconvenience for him roughly once every four days. But I think he'll be happy to do them anyway. They'll be for him, too. He's going to feel antsy being home while for the first time in his life the rest of the Rolling Stones are on tour without him. The little live video drop-ins will let him feel more connected to it.
And if he recovers well enough, who knows, he may wind up doing only half a tour of these wee hours video calls before he actually starts turning up at concerts... maybe about Vegas, or Dallas, or Tampa... and even drumming on a couple of songs per show. (See that wild speculation a page or two back).
As satire, the post is quite good. But I think you might be serious.
Like Charlie would ever be a part of such a lame-ass idea, a video chat into a concert (or playing on a song or two or a hologram or anything else other than staying home in England).
He's not there, he's not playing, he doesn't want any applause at shows he's not at, nor does he want to step on the musicians who are playing, i.e. Jordan. He has too much class for any of these ideas.
Just my opinion.
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If Charlie live-streams at 4am I hope he's in his pajamas!
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Also , when Mick feel ill due to his heart the tour was postponed until he was better and fit to carry on . So what is different now besides one is the front man / vocalist and the other keeps the beat on the drums ? What was the hurry during the Pandemic that the once already delayed tour be delayed yet again so that there mate would be ready and fit to go ? What am I missing besides the obvious $ . I am not going to say there is a sense of urgency for obvious reasons . I just don't get how Mick and Keith can do this !
TheGreek, as GlimmerGirl24 pointed out, the contracts say that Charlie and Ronnie can be replaced. Mick and Keith can not. This is why they postponed due to Mick's health issue, but won't/can't postpone because of Charlie.
(I know, in 2017 the European tour was postponed due to Ronnie's cancer, but perhaps in that case it was easier to do so, as venues were available in the fall and all parties agreed)
Also, there's pretty much nowhere to postpone the US tour to at this point. They can't play stadiums in the wintertime. They had to do it it now.
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I just don't get how Mick and Keith can do this !
Because they all (including Charlie) might agree that they're not willing to pay any Dollar they have already cashed in back in case the insurance will not pay?
Because they also feel some kind of responsibility for all the other people involved to stage a Stones show and may be in desperate need for this job after this COVID-mess?
People, grow up! It's not all about the glory. The real world is a bit, ehm, different.
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If Charlie live-streams at 4am I hope he's in his pajamas!
And he would be without any drum kit since Charlie doesn't play drums at home ....
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Well I think it is interesting that if it were Mick, there is no way there would be a show. Not possible.
In the very strict sense of the words, even this wouldn’t be the case.
During the Keith set, Mick leaves the stage, completely off sight.
No one doubts they are “The Rolling Stones”
Still disagree with you. That's when vast amounts of the audience allow themselves the bladder break, as nothing important is going on.
(OUCH! I didn't actually mean that.)
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Well I think it is interesting that if it were Mick, there is no way there would be a show. Not possible.
In the very strict sense of the words, even this wouldn’t be the case.
During the Keith set, Mick leaves the stage, completely off sight.
No one doubts they are “The Rolling Stones”
Still disagree with you. That's when vast amounts of the audience allow themselves the bladder break, as nothing important is going on.
(OUCH! I didn't actually mean that.)
Disagree with the statement that they are not 100% Rolling Stones when Mick takes a break and Keith does one of his classic Stones songs.
(I actually feel sorry for the usually alcohol fueled pisss breaks people have to take at some point in the show, often using Keith's set as a lame excuse.. Who would rather be smelling and looking at a urinal instead of catching Happy or BTMMR or Salt of the Earth et al? No Stones fan worth their salt, that I'm certain of
That aside, your argument doesn't hold water
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I just had a horrifying thought. NOW, when Mick leaves the stage, there will be more original X-Pensive Wino's members on stage than original Rolling Stones members.
Yikes!
(Also, more original New Barbarians members).
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I just had a horrifying thought. NOW, when Mick leaves the stage, there will be more original X-Pensive Wino's members on stage than original Rolling Stones members.
Yikes!
(Also, more original New Barbarians members).
Damn. Just thinking the contrast that sight (and sound) will have in compared to the band that once conquered the world back in the 60's... Only the guitarist from that band and him now doing... hmm... lead vocals, surrounded by an army of some other people... tell the first timer who finally got to see the legends that 'yes, this is the band that once did "Satisfaction"'...
I think one doesn't need to be His Majesty to reasonably ask is this really The Rolling Stones or does name actually connotate anything any longer...
But it still can be good music, though.
So, on with the show. It's Only Rock'n'Roll. Or something.
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Well I think it is interesting that if it were Mick, there is no way there would be a show. Not possible.
In the very strict sense of the words, even this wouldn’t be the case.
During the Keith set, Mick leaves the stage, completely off sight.
No one doubts they are “The Rolling Stones”
Still disagree with you. That's when vast amounts of the audience allow themselves the bladder break, as nothing important is going on.
(OUCH! I didn't actually mean that.)
Disagree with the statement that they are not 100% Rolling Stones when Mick takes a break and Keith does one of his classic Stones songs.
(I actually feel sorry for the usually alcohol fueled pisss breaks people have to take at some point in the show, often using Keith's set as a lame excuse.. Who would rather be smelling and looking at a urinal instead of catching Happy or BTMMR or Salt of the Earth et al? No Stones fan worth their salt, that I'm certain of
That aside, your argument doesn't hold water
I'm a guy who has to take multiple piss breaks but have NEVER had to do it during a Stones show.. How? I limit myself to one beer about an hour pre-show, piss, and then no more until after.. And then I make up for it
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Or Jordan will do the final bow with a Charlie t-shirt...
... in "whiteface" make-up?
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look at the horn section from 89-90. I see five people there, Bobby Keys not being one of them.
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Well I think it is interesting that if it were Mick, there is no way there would be a show. Not possible.
In the very strict sense of the words, even this wouldn’t be the case.
During the Keith set, Mick leaves the stage, completely off sight.
No one doubts they are “The Rolling Stones”
Still disagree with you. That's when vast amounts of the audience allow themselves the bladder break, as nothing important is going on.
(OUCH! I didn't actually mean that.)
Disagree with the statement that they are not 100% Rolling Stones when Mick takes a break and Keith does one of his classic Stones songs.
(I actually feel sorry for the usually alcohol fueled pisss breaks people have to take at some point in the show, often using Keith's set as a lame excuse.. Who would rather be smelling and looking at a urinal instead of catching Happy or BTMMR or Salt of the Earth et al? No Stones fan worth their salt, that I'm certain of
That aside, your argument doesn't hold water
I'm a guy who has to take multiple piss breaks but have NEVER had to do it during a Stones show.. How? I limit myself to one beer about an hour pre-show, piss, and then no more until after.. And then I make up for it
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is there an update on his health-status?