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GasLightStreet
Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

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RG
Charlie will be back!

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GasLightStreet
Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

Imo the "fab" 4's music has aged badly (it reeks of the 60's) and post-69 careers solo by the lads are awful. Yes I'm one who thinks "Imagine" is awful, cheeesy and laughable. The Beatles are slowly fading into oblivion and they'll sink in it completely once the babyboom generation "fades"/dies.

But back to Charlie!

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GasLightStreet
Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

Imo the "fab" 4's music has aged badly (it reeks of the 60's) and post-69 careers solo by the lads are awful. Yes I'm one who thinks "Imagine" is awful, cheeesy and laughable. The Beatles are slowly fading into oblivion and they'll sink in it completely once the babyboom generation "fades"/dies.

But back to Charlie!

I love me my Stones but the Beatles...something else altogether and never to be forgotten.

Strange but The Beatles music reeking of the 60's is true, primarily as it was written in the 60's. The Beatles music will be remembered long after the Rolling Stones music has faded from memory. Heresy on a Stones Board I know but The Beatles split 51 years ago and they are still the biggest band ever.

Solo Beatles were never going to reach the heights of the Fab Four but there are definitely some high points.

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GasLightStreet
Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

Imo the "fab" 4's music has aged badly (it reeks of the 60's) and post-69 careers solo by the lads are awful. Yes I'm one who thinks "Imagine" is awful, cheeesy and laughable. The Beatles are slowly fading into oblivion and they'll sink in it completely once the babyboom generation "fades"/dies.

But back to Charlie!

Strange but The Beatles music reeking of the 60's is true, primarily as it was written in the 60's. The Beatles music will be remembered long after the Rolling Stones music has faded from memory. Heresy on a Stones Board I know but The Beatles split 51 years ago and they are still the biggest band ever.

Solo Beatles were never going to reach the heights of the Fab Four but there are definitely some high points.

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GasLightStreet
Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

Imo the "fab" 4's music has aged badly (it reeks of the 60's) and post-69 careers solo by the lads are awful. Yes I'm one who thinks "Imagine" is awful, cheeesy and laughable. The Beatles are slowly fading into oblivion and they'll sink in it completely once the babyboom generation "fades"/dies.

But back to Charlie!

Strange but The Beatles music reeking of the 60's is true, primarily as it was written in the 60's. The Beatles music will be remembered long after the Rolling Stones music has faded from memory. Heresy on a Stones Board I know but The Beatles split 51 years ago and they are still the biggest band ever.

Solo Beatles were never going to reach the heights of the Fab Four but there are definitely some high points.

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Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery new
Posted by: dcba ()
Date: August 12, 2021 20:21

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GasLightStreet
Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

Imo the "fab" 4's music has aged badly (it reeks of the 60's) and post-69 careers solo by the lads are awful. Yes I'm one who thinks "Imagine" is awful, cheeesy and laughable. cool smiley The Beatles are slowly fading into oblivion and they'll sink in it completely once the babyboom generation "fades"/dies.

But back to Charlie! thumbs up

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Charlie is a trooper. He'll be back and hopefully by the end of the tour.

I remember an interview where he said touring was like a "call to arms".

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Mick and Ron had health problems now it is Charlie's turn.

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Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery new
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Date: August 13, 2021 01:13

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Charlie is a trooper. He'll be back and hopefully by the end of the tour.

I remember an interview where he said touring was like a "call to arms".

Everything we've heard so far leads me to believe it's unreasonable to think he'll resume drumming duties during the tour, replacing Steve Jordan. Even if he returns to health, having missed the rehearsals, that'd be very hard to do.

Charlie IS a trooper, though, has always been as reliable as clockwork, and I know he hates disappointing us. I also wouldn't be surprised if two months from now he isn't back in pretty good shape.

So this is my hope, and I think it may be a not unrealistic one.

At a show about mid-tour or later, after doing 18 songs the band is offstage. In this hypothetical they're doing 20 song shows in which they go all-out, busting their butts trying to compensate a little bit for No Charlie. They come out for the encore, but instead of Steve, out comes Charlie. Or maybe Steve does come out, only to turn and regally hand the sticks to the emerging Charlie. Who gives one of his modest little waves.

Of course now the encore is delayed while we all roar, and chant CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE! nonstop for 10 or 15 minutes straight. During which it'll be fun to watch him because he really is a humble chap and our refusal to shut up will embarrass him. His is an ego that really has no need for and doesn't know how to deal with that much love from so many people. But it will touch him deeply anyway.

Then he'll play on the two encore songs, and, show over! "See You Soon!" 50,000 people go home giddily happy.

And so on for the rest of the end of the tour.

Trying to get up to speed with the rest of the band, it already being mid-tour, for a full set list won't be realistic, and it's doubtful he'd have the stamina for that yet anyway. But two songs? Might that work?

If Charlie felt more ambitious, maybe even the last 4 songs. Steve would continue to shoulder the lion's share of the drumming duties, playing 16 songs in those last shows of the tour, and Charlie comes out for the last four.

If that becomes do-able, I hope they do something like it.

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I'm down in Virginia
with your Cousin Lou.

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Charlie is a trooper. He'll be back and hopefully by the end of the tour.

I remember an interview where he said touring was like a "call to arms".

Everything we've heard so far leads me to believe it's unreasonable to think he'll resume drumming duties during the tour, replacing Steve Jordan. Even if he returns to health, having missed the rehearsals, that'd be very hard to do.

Charlie IS a trooper, though, has always been as reliable as clockwork, and I know he hates disappointing us. I also wouldn't be surprised if two months from now he isn't back in pretty good shape.

So this is my hope, and I think it may be a not unrealistic one.

At a show about mid-tour or later, after doing 18 songs the band is offstage. In this hypothetical they're doing 20 song shows in which they go all-out, busting their butts trying to compensate a little bit for No Charlie. They come out for the encore, but instead of Steve, out comes Charlie. Or maybe Steve does come out, only to turn and regally hand the sticks to the emerging Charlie. Who gives one of his modest little waves.

Of course now the encore is delayed while we all roar, and chant CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE! CHAR-LIE! nonstop for 10 or 15 minutes straight. During which it'll be fun to watch him because he really is a humble chap and our refusal to shut up will embarrass him. His is an ego that really has no need for and doesn't know how to deal with that much love from so many people. But it will touch him deeply anyway.

Then he'll play on the two encore songs, and, show over! "See You Soon!" 50,000 people go home giddily happy.

And so on for the rest of the end of the tour.

Trying to get up to speed with the rest of the band, it already being mid-tour, for a full set list won't be realistic, and it's doubtful he'd have the stamina for that yet anyway. But two songs? Might that work?

If Charlie felt more ambitious, maybe even the last 4 songs. Steve would continue to shoulder the lion's share of the drumming duties, playing 16 songs in those last shows of the tour, and Charlie comes out for the last four.

If that becomes do-able, I hope they do something like it.

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Justin
...logistically how will that work?

Is Charlie supposed to jump on mid-tour with no rehearsal at all? ...Charlie will have no one to rehearse with....

It's a romantic idea that Charlie swoops in mid-tour to take over but logistically it just can't happen. He's either there from the beginning (right now) for rehearsals or he'll have to wait and catch the next train....

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Bastion
No one is‘forcing’ their opinion on anyone.

Ironically stated in a manner that is enforcing what opinions people are allowed to have.

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Justin
...logistically how will that work?

Is Charlie supposed to jump on mid-tour with no rehearsal at all? ...Charlie will have no one to rehearse with....

It's a romantic idea that Charlie swoops in mid-tour to take over but logistically it just can't happen. He's either there from the beginning (right now) for rehearsals or he'll have to wait and catch the next train....

I'm not talking about him "taking over." If it's just the encore, that's TWO warhorses he's played live 1000 times with those guys. He practices in England watching and listening to the tour performances of the two songs as they've been performed in the tour shows he's not at. On travelling to the U.S. and meeting up with the band, yes it'll be difficult to work in three or four secret rehearsals mid-tour, but again these are rehearsals of TWO songs, not of a concert. It'd not be impossible, and it'd be worth it, to everybody.

Would the two warhorses come off perfectly the first night they do this? Maybe not. Maybe people will be out of sync a couple of times. But NOBODY WOULD CARE about that.

They'd only care that that's Charlie Watts, the fourth Rolling Stone, up there behind the drum kit.

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Ridiculous.

To deny how awesome The Beatles were (are) is beyond stupidity.

Imo the "fab" 4's music has aged badly (it reeks of the 60's) and post-69 careers solo by the lads are awful. Yes I'm one who thinks "Imagine" is awful, cheeesy and laughable. The Beatles are slowly fading into oblivion and they'll sink in it completely once the babyboom generation "fades"/dies.

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Charlie has been doing this for decades. Does he really NEED 2 weeks of rehearsals? Drumming is no different than gitfiddle playing; your legs and arms are ingrained with the moves, like riding a bike.

His first show back may be a bit shaky but the second onwards and he'd get his groove back.

Those songs are INSIDE of him a part of his very being.

He'd be back in the groove very quickly.

Besides, I'd rather see a loose and shaky Charlie on first night back than Steve Jordan playing the whole tour.

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To be fair: They are not 75 percent Stones without Charlie. 60 percent rather.

- 25% with Brian Jones left in 1969
- 25% with Mick Taylor left in 1974
- 25% with Bill Wyman left in 1993
- 25% with Charlie not able to tour now

I don't agree on these mathematics. The Rolling Stones are a synergy of Mick, Keith, Ronnie, Charlie, the very important supporting musicians on stage, their highly skilled crew, and their fans. They are still 100% The Rolling Stones, even if they may not tour with Brian, Mick T, Bill and Charlie.

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...logistically how will that work?

Is Charlie supposed to jump on mid-tour with no rehearsal at all? ...Charlie will have no one to rehearse with....

It's a romantic idea that Charlie swoops in mid-tour to take over but logistically it just can't happen. He's either there from the beginning (right now) for rehearsals or he'll have to wait and catch the next train....

I'm not talking about him "taking over." If it's just the encore, that's TWO warhorses he's played live 1000 times with those guys. He practices in England watching and listening to the tour performances of the two songs as they've been performed in the tour shows he's not at. On travelling to the U.S. and meeting up with the band, yes it'll be difficult to work in three or four secret rehearsals mid-tour, but again these are rehearsals of TWO songs, not of a concert. It'd not be impossible, and it'd be worth it, to everybody.

Would the two warhorses come off perfectly the first night they do this? Maybe not. Maybe people will be out of sync a couple of times. But NOBODY WOULD CARE about that.

They'd only care that that's Charlie Watts, the fourth Rolling Stone, up there behind the drum kit.

You want Charlie, recently recovered from surgery, to be traveling all over the country so that he can sit in on two songs? That makes no sense for anyone, least of all Charlie.

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"A three-legged dog is still a dog, it just has to learn how to run differently" - Michael Stipe on Bill Berry retiring from REM (1997)

Well, at least "our dog" still has 4 legs, it's just that one of them seems to be injured. Let's be optimistic and hope Charlie will be back next year.