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When the Stones insurance contracts leaked to public domain back in 2014 (as part of a court case after the Asia tour cancellation?) I remember reading there was a clause allowing for a replacement drummer.
With all due respect, did you read the statement? Charlie was rushed in for emergency surgery. I don’t think that when the Stones were thinking “Well, why don’t we pump up the excitement to sell more tickets then tell them the truth in a few weeks time”. Shit just happened to Charlie and they are desperate not to disappoint the paying fans.
He might rejoin if his health allows him to. We can hope, but we also have to accept the reality. And from what it is known, it was surprise condition requiring surgery, which is not too optimistic, unfortunately.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-05 11:17 by jumpingjackflash5.
I also understand, but it is still sad and the shows will not be the same.
Many needn't notice, but the sound will be different without Charlie.
Yes, I read it, I understand it. I just can't get over the fact, that Charlie will get replacement. I just imagined when Mick, for example, would play without Ron or Keith and it's too much for me, I hope it won't ever happen. Charlie's health is most important and if the surgery was emergency - I understand, but if they weren't sure about health of Charlie and announced new shows - that would be cruel for fans.
It would be great and I wish it happen. But, it also needn't happen.
Back in the States next year? Where did you hear that?
Only if you listen for it. Blindfold? Doubt anyone would notice. If anything you would probably think it was a good night for Charlie. Just being realistic.
Your "most of the audience" is a worn-out trope. It's like you wanna say that YOU would obviously notice a difference, but you're involuntarily pointing out that you're indifferent to it
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-05 11:41 by Nikkei.
No need whatsoever to apologize!
Fans that know the songs well can surely notice. I shall notice.
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Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
StonedRambler
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:14
True. But I don't necessarily think he WANTS to, they probably have some insurance contract to fulfill.Quote
Roadster32
The one thing that annoys me the most is Keith Richards. Wasn't it him who always said "Without Charlie Watts there!ll be no Rolling Stones. He is the only person I couldn't play without."
Bla bla bla.
Get well soon Charlie and give him a few kicks in the a..
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
crholmstrom
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:18
Best wishes & prayers to Charlie. Be safe & well!
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
PaintMonkeyManBlack
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:28
This answers the question if they would tour without ronnie to.
I dont like this. But maybe it will grow on me
I dont like this. But maybe it will grow on me
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
PaintMonkeyManBlack
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:30
Also the statement leaves space for charlie to join when he is ready. Maybe it is just for a few shows?
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
zgredzik
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:32
It's really sad to see how Rolling Stones gathers moss. Charlie was there since early days, they have some contracts to pay, but why they started to sell new concerts and just 2-3 weeks later them say that one of the most important persons in group won't play with them?
To all Stones fans on US. I know you are mad because of postponement of the tour last year's etc., but how do you feel with that? Do you want the Stones to play even without Charlie? Or you would sell back your ticket?
Contracts, money it's the most important thing right now, that's sad.
To all Stones fans on US. I know you are mad because of postponement of the tour last year's etc., but how do you feel with that? Do you want the Stones to play even without Charlie? Or you would sell back your ticket?
Contracts, money it's the most important thing right now, that's sad.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
Rockman
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:37
.... Charlie's health comes first ...
Jordan will nail it inta place till he get back ...
Stay safe Charlie ...
ROCKMAN
Jordan will nail it inta place till he get back ...
Stay safe Charlie ...
ROCKMAN
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
Topi
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:38
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Well I look at this positively.............. Charlie said he would join his bandmates later this year. He'll probably join them for the last half of the tour.
Contractually they have to tour.
They are not required to tour if one of their principle members is not well. They absolutely have the right to cancel if they need to but for whatever reason they want to finish this tour. That's why there is insurance for these kinds of things.
When the Stones insurance contracts leaked to public domain back in 2014 (as part of a court case after the Asia tour cancellation?) I remember reading there was a clause allowing for a replacement drummer.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
sandandglue
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:46
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zgredzik
It's really sad to see how Rolling Stones gathers moss. Charlie was there since early days, they have some contracts to pay, but why they started to sell new concerts and just 2-3 weeks later them say that one of the most important persons in group won't play with them?
With all due respect, did you read the statement? Charlie was rushed in for emergency surgery. I don’t think that when the Stones were thinking “Well, why don’t we pump up the excitement to sell more tickets then tell them the truth in a few weeks time”. Shit just happened to Charlie and they are desperate not to disappoint the paying fans.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Lady Jayne
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Date: August 5, 2021 10:53
Very hard news to hear but inevitable that it will happen more at their ages. Much love to Charlie.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:17
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Well I look at this positively.............. Charlie said he would join his bandmates later this year. He'll probably join them for the last half of the tour.
He might rejoin if his health allows him to. We can hope, but we also have to accept the reality. And from what it is known, it was surprise condition requiring surgery, which is not too optimistic, unfortunately.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-05 11:17 by jumpingjackflash5.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
BowieStone
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:21
I understand this tour without him.
Was already delayed… new plans were made… a new delay or cancellation would probably hit too hard… financially.
Announcing a tour without Charlie would be something different. Don’t think they would do that.
Was already delayed… new plans were made… a new delay or cancellation would probably hit too hard… financially.
Announcing a tour without Charlie would be something different. Don’t think they would do that.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:23
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BowieStone
I understand this tour without him.
Was already delayed… new plans were made… a new delay or cancellation would probably hit too hard… financially.
Announcing a tour without Charlie would be something different. Don’t think they would do that.
I also understand, but it is still sad and the shows will not be the same.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
WorriedAboutYou
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:23
Most of the audience won't care or even notice. They're there to see Mick and to a lesser extent Keith, hear Satisfaction and You Got Me Rocking, buy the T-shirt and post on Facebook about it. The drummer is of zero consequence to at least 90% of the audience.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Maindefender
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:23
Another chapter. 60 years, we have been so fortunate. Rumour is the band will be back in the states next year. Healing vibes to Mr. Watts
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Roll73
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:25
Aside from the obvious surprise of this announcement (never thought they'd go on stage without Charlie) - and hoping he recovers very soon, from a purely musical pov it will be very interesting to see how Steve Jordan fares. He's obviously a hell of a drummer with a serious groove and has the chops to do this gig - I just wander if he'll adapt his style at all to try and play more like Charlie or he'll just do his thing. Is it possible that he'd play on Charlie's kit??
Unprecedented times for sure.
Unprecedented times for sure.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
mattstones
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:26
Hopefully the Wembley Whammer will be back soon.
Have a good recovery Charlie!
Have a good recovery Charlie!
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:26
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WorriedAboutYou
Most of the audience won't care or even notice. They're there to see Mick and to a lesser extent Keith, hear Satisfaction and You Got Me Rocking, buy the T-shirt and post on Facebook about it. The drummer is of zero consequence to at least 90% of the audience.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Many needn't notice, but the sound will be different without Charlie.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
zgredzik
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:27
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sandandglueQuote
zgredzik
It's really sad to see how Rolling Stones gathers moss. Charlie was there since early days, they have some contracts to pay, but why they started to sell new concerts and just 2-3 weeks later them say that one of the most important persons in group won't play with them?
With all due respect, did you read the statement? Charlie was rushed in for emergency surgery. I don’t think that when the Stones were thinking “Well, why don’t we pump up the excitement to sell more tickets then tell them the truth in a few weeks time”. Shit just happened to Charlie and they are desperate not to disappoint the paying fans.
Yes, I read it, I understand it. I just can't get over the fact, that Charlie will get replacement. I just imagined when Mick, for example, would play without Ron or Keith and it's too much for me, I hope it won't ever happen. Charlie's health is most important and if the surgery was emergency - I understand, but if they weren't sure about health of Charlie and announced new shows - that would be cruel for fans.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:27
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mattstones
Hopefully the Wembley Whammer will be back soon.
Have a good recovery Charlie!
It would be great and I wish it happen. But, it also needn't happen.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
brownsugar86
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:28
Smart move getting Charlie to quote himself that he wants Steve Jordan to stand in for him. Can you imagine the s**t storm if it was just a factual announcement by the management
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Topi
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:28
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Maindefender
Another chapter. 60 years, we have been so fortunate. Rumour is the band will be back in the states next year. Healing vibes to Mr. Watts
Back in the States next year? Where did you hear that?
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
WorriedAboutYou
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:29
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WorriedAboutYou
Most of the audience won't care or even notice. They're there to see Mick and to a lesser extent Keith, hear Satisfaction and You Got Me Rocking, buy the T-shirt and post on Facebook about it. The drummer is of zero consequence to at least 90% of the audience.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Many needn't notice, but the sound will be different without Charlie.
Only if you listen for it. Blindfold? Doubt anyone would notice. If anything you would probably think it was a good night for Charlie. Just being realistic.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Nikkei
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:39
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WorriedAboutYouQuote
jumpingjackflash5Quote
WorriedAboutYou
Most of the audience won't care or even notice. They're there to see Mick and to a lesser extent Keith, hear Satisfaction and You Got Me Rocking, buy the T-shirt and post on Facebook about it. The drummer is of zero consequence to at least 90% of the audience.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Many needn't notice, but the sound will be different without Charlie.
Only if you listen for it. Blindfold? Doubt anyone would notice. If anything you would probably think it was a good night for Charlie. Just being realistic.
Your "most of the audience" is a worn-out trope. It's like you wanna say that YOU would obviously notice a difference, but you're involuntarily pointing out that you're indifferent to it
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-08-05 11:41 by Nikkei.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:39
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WorriedAboutYou
Most of the audience won't care or even notice. They're there to see Mick and to a lesser extent Keith, hear Satisfaction and You Got Me Rocking, buy the T-shirt and post on Facebook about it. The drummer is of zero consequence to at least 90% of the audience.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Re: Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, 80, pulls out of band's US tour after undergoing emergency surgery in London
Posted by:
Beast
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:41
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Posted by: NilsHolgersson ()
Date: August 5, 2021 04:04
Maybe Steve Jordan sounds better and Mick and Keith fire Charlie from the band
i'm sorry but thats just mean and in really bad taste
No need whatsoever to apologize!
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
jumpingjackflash5
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:47
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WorriedAboutYouQuote
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WorriedAboutYou
Most of the audience won't care or even notice. They're there to see Mick and to a lesser extent Keith, hear Satisfaction and You Got Me Rocking, buy the T-shirt and post on Facebook about it. The drummer is of zero consequence to at least 90% of the audience.
Good luck to Steve Jordan and best to Charlie.
Many needn't notice, but the sound will be different without Charlie.
Only if you listen for it. Blindfold? Doubt anyone would notice. If anything you would probably think it was a good night for Charlie. Just being realistic.
Fans that know the songs well can surely notice. I shall notice.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Nikkei
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:48
A prolific drummer could probably learn how to do a break or turn-around in Charlie-style, but I don't see anyone having the authority facing Mick and Keith onstage and actually pulling that off.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
Irix
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:50
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
frankotero
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:53
Hope Charlie will recover perfectly and have some more enjoyable years. This is really too bad. Best wishes to him.
Re: Charlie Watts pulls out of US tour after undergoing emergency surgery
Posted by:
shortfatfanny
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Date: August 5, 2021 11:54
Health comes first...always !
Stay safe,take your time and a good recovery,Charlie...
Stay safe,take your time and a good recovery,Charlie...
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