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Oh, gotcha, I somehow thought it was the box office that dropped those 2016 Vegas prices. My bad!

Naturally the box office will have very little incentive go to below their original face value. Perhaps on some occasions they do, but the drop isn't that drastic. I wanna say some $300 tickets became $200 tickets on TM on the 2019 tour, or something to that effect.

Topi, I know you know this now, but that dramatic drop was largely due to us poor suckers, er, fans who had to fly home because we couldn't make the new, postponed date. Glad you benefited, Hairball.

~"Love is Strong"~

The second *Vegas '16 show was never a rescheduled date - it was confirmed over a month beforehand in September.

See details here.> *Vegas '16

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Topi, I know you know this now, but that dramatic drop was largely due to us poor suckers, er, fans who had to fly home because we couldn't make the new, postponed date. Glad you benefited, Hairball.

Believe the drop was mainly due to the real uncertainty of it after the first show was cancelled. Lot of people ruled it out then.
Such a great gig... the whole band stepped up to help Mick out that night.
Honestly have never heard better sound (esp the guitars- loud and raunchy) in an arena.

Wish they were playing there again. Lucky Dipped this one, fantastic seats!

Poor Mick struggled no doubt with everyone covering for him - I felt bad for him and the fans who paid alot of money. But the one bright side was Keith giving us a unique three tune set.
Surprised they actually went forward with the show considering how sick Mick still was. Honestly Angee, you didn't miss much - even my wife was surprised when it abruptly ended.
Only 18 songs in the setlist vs the 20 song setlists at the previous Desert Trip shows just prior, but again Mick was terribly sick and nowhere near his best - can't blame him for giving up and throwing in the towel.

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Lol.
Butt-hurt till the bitter end. Lovin it.

Wish they would play the superior MGM Arena again some day as it is far better than the sterile T-Mobile Arena or any massive football stadium, but clearly those days are a thing of the distant past.
One of the most memorable Stones shows I ever saw there was the day Mick's father passed away in 2006. Mick soldiered on like a real trooper at 100% - such a contrast to the sadly inferior *Vegas '16 show.
Immediately after the show ended, my wife dragged me in to a cab to go see Prince in a small club at the Rio. Show started well after midnight and continued through the wee hours...such good memories...
Wasn't a huge Prince fan prior to that (my wife definitely was), but I became one immediately afterwards - what a showman he was. But enough memories for now, there's a tour about to start with whats left of the Stones...

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I have posted the following in the "travel to USA" thread:

Travel to USA for The Rolling Stones Tour 2021 (stoneslife.org)

Bjornulf

Thanks for sharing Bjornulf - so far, so good...hope the rest of your adventures in the USA with the Rolling Stones are fantastic!
Noticed the pic of Legal Sea Foods in Boston - had lunch there myself about ten years ago.
Keep on rolling...................

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Only 2 weeks to tour kick off.
Any guests or opening acts rumors?

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Only 2 weeks to tour kick off.
Any guests or opening acts rumors?

Ghost Hounds have said they will open a few shows.
Unclear which ones. They are from Pittsburgh, so that could be one of them.

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Only 2 weeks to tour kick off.
Any guests or opening acts rumors?

Ghost Hounds have said they will open a few shows.
Unclear which ones. They are from Pittsburgh, so that could be one of them.

An announcement for all the opening acts in '19 came about two weeks before the opener.
[consequence.net]

Perhaps we'll see similar coming early in the week as it appears this tour will be business as usual in that regard.

AEG posted this tour promo yesterday:

[youtu.be]

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AEG posted this tour promo yesterday:

[youtu.be]

So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

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AEG posted this tour promo yesterday:

[youtu.be]

So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

of course there's not single show of Charlie in the video – since it is a promo video for a tour without Charlie

...........sad..............

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AEG posted this tour promo yesterday:

[youtu.be]

So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

Wot? At least the clip above I saw ends to Charlie's photo with his birth and passing year.

- Doxa

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So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

Have look at Pos. 0:28.



[www.YouTube.com]

Either way, I can't bring myself to watch it.

Today it is 14 days until tour start.

Bjornulf

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AEG posted this tour promo yesterday:

[youtu.be]

So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

of course there's not single show of Charlie in the video – since it is a promo video for a tour without Charlie

Yeah. I know that. We all do. Doesn't make it any less sad.

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AEG posted this tour promo yesterday:

[youtu.be]

So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

of course there's not single show of Charlie in the video – since it is a promo video for a tour without Charlie

Yeah. I know that. We all do. Doesn't make it any less sad.

[www.youtube.com]

I don't know who AEG is or what they do. They may post as many videos as they like, may be they are in charge of selling tickets, then sure they have to post anything legal and available, I don't know. This is their main pages:

[www.aegpresents.com]

I don't work for the band (RS), even if some say so, I don't really worry what money say and what money do, I just follow the band.

From what I can see AEG are pushing nine - 9 - acts on their main pages banner, Celine Dion and eight other ones. I do see they are managing The Rolling Stones there too, sort of "This Fall" banner with the RS tongue.

Fine with me. They are the promoter. I do only relate to the band and what they say and do. I will see them on stage September 26 in St Louis.

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I don't know who AEG is or what they do.

AEG = Anschutz Entertainment Group = main competitor of Live Nation - [en.Wikipedia.org] .

Yes, and Concerts West is their subsidiary/division in charge of promoting the Stones tour.

As regards that video, it's obvious why all the Charlie action shots were edited out. And yes, in a way it was sad, even surreal to watch. But at least they included that brief tribute at the end.

And hey - a week from now the band's back on stage again, how about that?



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As regards that video, it's obvious why all the Charlie action shots were edited out. And yes, in a way it was sad, even surreal to watch. But at least they included that brief tribute at the end.

Yeah, it was kinda 'reality bites' moment: there is no Charlie Watts any longer there. This promo was a first real indication of The Stones without Charlie - what it is from now on. No easy to swallow, but we will cope...

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So sad. Not a single shot of Charlie in the video.

Have look at Pos. 0:28.



[www.YouTube.com]

I just watched that, and it made me realise that I still can't quite really grasp the fact that they're still "out there", but that they're out there without Charlie ? I'm completely unsure what to think about it all, talk about "mixed emotions". Part of me thinks it's good that they're still gonna "roll for evermore", part of me thinks that "somehow" it's all wrong.

I really don't know. Anyone else suffering from mixed emotions ? I can't be the only one ?

[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]

Another story relevant to the tour:

Crowded stadiums, pandemic create combustible mix this fall

Pandemic

More than 65,000 fans packed a stadium in Tampa to watch Tom Brady lead the Buccaneers to a win in the NFL’s season opener, just hours after President Joe Biden announced a sweeping new plan to slow the latest COVID-19 surge. Most people at the open-air stadium Thursday night didn’t wear masks. There was no vaccine requirement for fans, something Biden has urged sports and entertainment venues to impose. Many other football stadiums are taking a similarly lax approach to pandemic measures this fall, and that worries health experts. This fall’s crowded college and professional football stadiums could create ripe conditions for COVID-19 to spread among unvaccinated fans, experts say. The risk of catching or passing a virus that has infected more than 40 million people in the United States will depend on where the stadium is and whether the game is outdoors, among other factors.

HOW RISKY ARE STADIUMS?

It’s difficult to predict how many COVID-19 cases might develop from a single event. That depends partly on infection rates where the venue is located and how many people are vaccinated. The highly contagious delta variant has triggered a surge in infections this summer that just recently started to taper. The seven-day rolling average for daily new cases in the U.S. sits at about 150,000 after starting September above 167,000, according to Johns Hopkins University. At those rates, it is “basically a certainty” that there will be at least one infected person at any gathering of a thousand people, epidemiologist Ryan Demmer said. Many football stadiums seat 60,000 fans or more. “At any sort of large event like at a football stadium, without question there will be many infected people there,” said Demmer of the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.

HAS COVID-19 SPREAD AT OTHER EVENTS?

Yes. The Lollapalooza music festival in Chicago drew about 385,000 people in late July. Festivalgoers had to show proof of vaccination or a negative test. Nearly two weeks after the event, city officials reported 203 COVID-19 cases connected to it. In Wisconsin, health officials have said nearly 500 coronavirus cases may be linked to the crowds that attended Milwaukee Bucks games or gathered outside the arena — estimated as high as 100,000 one night — during the team’s push to the NBA championship.

ARE VENUES TAKING ANY MEASURES?

The NFL doesn’t have a blanket policy for masks or vaccination status for fans. That creates a patchwork of guidelines that each of the 32 teams has developed. The Las Vegas Raiders, for instance, will require proof of vaccination for all fans 12 and over. The New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks will require that fans show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test. Louisiana State University, a college football powerhouse, has a policy similar to the Saints. Many teams are asking fans to wear masks indoors but not requiring them while they are in their seats. Football games are the latest events to resume with full stadiums or arenas, following a summer of concerts, NBA playoff games and baseball.

DO OUTDOOR STADIUMS ELIMINATE RISK?

No. But they are considered safer because air circulates better in them, which can hamper the airborne virus’s ability to spread. That said, there’s still an “extremely high chance” an unvaccinated and unmasked fan could wind up with COVID-19 if they sit next to an infected person for three hours or so, even outdoors, said Demmer, the epidemiologist. Most of the NFL’s 30 stadiums are open-air venues. Four teams have closed roofs — the Detroit Lions, Las Vegas Raiders, New Orleans Saints and Minnesota Vikings — and five have retractable roofs that can be opened or closed. A stadium that opened last year in Los Angeles and is home to the Chargers and Rams has a canopy-type roof and panels at each end that allow air in and out.

WHAT PRECAUTIONS CAN FANS TAKE?

The biggest measure is becoming fully vaccinated. Doctors say the shots don’t eliminate risk, but they lower it considerably, especially when it comes to developing a serious case that requires hospitalization. “The delta variant is ... so much more contagious that if you’ve got clusters of unvaccinated people, it’s going to rip through them,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. Bringing masks and hand sanitizer to the game is a good idea, said Dr. Sharon Wright, chief infection prevention officer at Beth Israel Lahey Health in Boston. She noted that masks are not perfect, but they offer some protection. They also prevent people from touching their faces. “Lots of people touch lots of things in sports arenas,” she noted. Once fans get to their seat, they should try to stay there as much as possible to minimize contact with infected people, Demmer said. “Don’t wander around the stadium,” he said. “Try not to stand in a lot of concession lines.” The epidemiologist said there is no question that crowded stadiums this fall will lead to more infections, but he also realizes that “we can’t live for the next five or 10 years not having large gatherings” because of the virus. “I just wish everyone would get vaccinated and then we can really move past this once and for all,” Demmer said.

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Another story relevant to the tour:

Crowded stadiums, pandemic create combustible mix this fall

Pandemic

More than 65,000 fans packed a stadium in Tampa to watch Tom Brady lead the Buccaneers to a win in the NFL’s season opener, just hours after President Joe Biden announced a sweeping new plan to slow the latest COVID-19 surge. Most people at the open-air stadium Thursday night didn’t wear masks. There was no vaccine requirement for fans, something Biden has urged sports and entertainment venues to impose. Many other football stadiums are taking a similarly lax approach to pandemic measures this fall, and that worries health experts. This fall’s crowded college and professional football stadiums could create ripe conditions for COVID-19 to spread among unvaccinated fans, experts say. The risk of catching or passing a virus that has infected more than 40 million people in the United States will depend on where the stadium is and whether the game is outdoors, among other factors.

HOW RISKY ARE STADIUMS?

It’s difficult to predict how many COVID-19 cases might develop from a single event. That depends partly on infection rates where the venue is located and how many people are vaccinated. The highly contagious delta variant has triggered a surge in infections this summer that just recently started to taper. The seven-day rolling average for daily new cases in the U.S. sits at about 150,000 after starting September above 167,000, according to Johns Hopkins University. At those rates, it is “basically a certainty” that there will be at least one infected person at any gathering of a thousand people, epidemiologist Ryan Demmer said. Many football stadiums seat 60,000 fans or more. “At any sort of large event like at a football stadium, without question there will be many infected people there,” said Demmer of the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.

HAS COVID-19 SPREAD AT OTHER EVENTS?

Yes. The Lollapalooza music festival in Chicago drew about 385,000 people in late July. Festivalgoers had to show proof of vaccination or a negative test. Nearly two weeks after the event, city officials reported 203 COVID-19 cases connected to it. In Wisconsin, health officials have said nearly 500 coronavirus cases may be linked to the crowds that attended Milwaukee Bucks games or gathered outside the arena — estimated as high as 100,000 one night — during the team’s push to the NBA championship.

ARE VENUES TAKING ANY MEASURES?

The NFL doesn’t have a blanket policy for masks or vaccination status for fans. That creates a patchwork of guidelines that each of the 32 teams has developed. The Las Vegas Raiders, for instance, will require proof of vaccination for all fans 12 and over. The New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks will require that fans show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test. Louisiana State University, a college football powerhouse, has a policy similar to the Saints. Many teams are asking fans to wear masks indoors but not requiring them while they are in their seats. Football games are the latest events to resume with full stadiums or arenas, following a summer of concerts, NBA playoff games and baseball.

DO OUTDOOR STADIUMS ELIMINATE RISK?

No. But they are considered safer because air circulates better in them, which can hamper the airborne virus’s ability to spread. That said, there’s still an “extremely high chance” an unvaccinated and unmasked fan could wind up with COVID-19 if they sit next to an infected person for three hours or so, even outdoors, said Demmer, the epidemiologist. Most of the NFL’s 30 stadiums are open-air venues. Four teams have closed roofs — the Detroit Lions, Las Vegas Raiders, New Orleans Saints and Minnesota Vikings — and five have retractable roofs that can be opened or closed. A stadium that opened last year in Los Angeles and is home to the Chargers and Rams has a canopy-type roof and panels at each end that allow air in and out.

WHAT PRECAUTIONS CAN FANS TAKE?

The biggest measure is becoming fully vaccinated. Doctors say the shots don’t eliminate risk, but they lower it considerably, especially when it comes to developing a serious case that requires hospitalization. “The delta variant is ... so much more contagious that if you’ve got clusters of unvaccinated people, it’s going to rip through them,” said Dr. Amesh Adalja of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. Bringing masks and hand sanitizer to the game is a good idea, said Dr. Sharon Wright, chief infection prevention officer at Beth Israel Lahey Health in Boston. She noted that masks are not perfect, but they offer some protection. They also prevent people from touching their faces. “Lots of people touch lots of things in sports arenas,” she noted. Once fans get to their seat, they should try to stay there as much as possible to minimize contact with infected people, Demmer said. “Don’t wander around the stadium,” he said. “Try not to stand in a lot of concession lines.” The epidemiologist said there is no question that crowded stadiums this fall will lead to more infections, but he also realizes that “we can’t live for the next five or 10 years not having large gatherings” because of the virus. “I just wish everyone would get vaccinated and then we can really move past this once and for all,” Demmer said.

When I read something like this, which strikes me as pretty balanced and not particularly over-exaggerated, I can't help but wonder if this tour is actually going to get completed in full ........... ?

O well, "to be seen" !?

[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]