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MisterDDDD
Not if they get tested and isolate afterwards..
C'mon people.. these safeguards aren't new.

Most artists who have cancelled planned their shows too soon or don't have enough balls or base to demand vax/test.

Be a Willie Nelson(and many others), who bravely and wisely, despite being older with respiratory issues, will play vax or test shows like Farm Aid.
Not like Neil Young, who despite the precautions, cowardly backs out because someone might not make the right choices.
Personal responsibility and common sense is what is needed, not everyone catering to the unvaxxed.

Farm Aid is September 25th. That's just over a month away. A lot could change.

Willie's playing vaxxed shows currently.

I just saw Willie Nelson & Family on 8/14 at Ravinia outside of Chicago. There was no COVID policy whatsoever... no tests, no vax requirement, no mask requirement. He and his team didn't seem to care at all about COVID. It was a sold out show too.

Anyone wearing masks or not really?

I'm curious to see if we'll see (m)any masks on the Stones stadium tour for most nights.

I'd say less than 2% of the crowd was wearing masks. Ravinia is a weird venue. 80% of the tickets sold can't even see the stage and there's generally no video screens for those areas. It's a big open field and they let people bring in their own food, drinks, chairs, coolers, tables and set up big family style picnics. It's also a non-profit and they give first dibs to people who donate money.

My partner and I wore masks while walking around and in bathrooms and lines. I believe the venue even had a mask rule for indoor areas, but no one was following it and absolutely no enforcement. We had pavilion seats close to the stage which are partly covered. She wore her mask for the whole show. I took mine off maybe 20 mins into Willie's 60 min set because we had empty seats next to us, there was a good breeze going, I'm vaxxed and we were surrounded by rich, white North Shore people who are very likely vaxxed and at the time, IL/Chicago's COVID numbers were relatively low. I've been tested since and didn't catch anything. Cases are going up again so I'm very hesistant to take that risk again, especially if it's a show with younger people attending. The pavillion for Willie was almost 100% older, people 40+, but A LOT 60 or older.

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It isn’t that the masks and vaccines don’t work or that they are particularly dangerous. The people who don’t want them, by and large, don’t trust the entities who are so emphatically advocating their use. Be it the government, media, dodgy scientists or their overbearing, know-it-all neighbor. People have to trust those pushing the vaccine. A significant portion of Americans (percentage wise more people of color not “ignorant redneck Christians) don’t trust the government, media or dodgy scientists and, in their minds, for good reason. Until these objections can be overcome there’s going to remain a segment of the citizenry who will voluntarily remain un-vaxxed. Insults, threats and intimidation are not the way to reach these folks. If our “enlightened betters” were really so smart you’d think they’d have figured that out by now.

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It isn’t that the masks and vaccines don’t work or that they are particularly dangerous. The people who don’t want them, by and large, don’t trust the entities who are so emphatically advocating their use. Be it the government, media, dodgy scientists or their overbearing, know-it-all neighbor. People have to trust those pushing the vaccine. A significant portion of Americans (percentage wise more people of color not “ignorant redneck Christians) don’t trust the government, media or dodgy scientists and, in their minds, for good reason. Until these objections can be overcome there’s going to remain a segment of the citizenry who will voluntarily remain un-vaxxed. Insults, threats and intimidation are not the way to reach these folks. If our “enlightened betters” were really so smart you’d think they’d have figured that out by now.

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NFL stadiums will most likely NOT be full weeks 1, 2, 3 and however long, although at some point they may be.

Just a guess.

The whole 'be vaxxed or tested for entry' thing is one way to get people that have paid big bucks for season tickets to... be part of the big picture or not be in the picture at all.

Think of the pushback in stadiums in the south, where anti-mask and anit-vax mentality is rampant - for a lot of people, football, whether it's college or pro, is a big deal.

Enter seeing the Stones on what is likely their second to last North American tour.

It will either be a slow evolution towards the greater good, as it may be perceived, or a slow revolution towards chaos and perhaps a portion of the United States essentially left out of enjoying things.

Hey Gas, what/when do you think will be the last North American tour?


plexi

At this point, obviously only speculation, but if 2021 gets cancelled, perhaps they'll arrange it for 2022 spring - whatever second tier cities booked could still have them, which might include, still, Jazz Fest, and then that leaves the 60th anniversary, which it just seems like they'll do a Euro/UK tour in the fall.

Considering that they don't play as many shows, all cities are "select cities", right? Aside from second tier markets, like the 2021 tour, it's easy to think for 2023, if it's their last NA tour (obviously they aren't going to say it and it's not a given based on the cities since they tend to bounce between markets) they'll possibly do a

Los Angeles/Denver/Dallas/Chicago/Detroit/Nashville/Miami/DC/Philly/Boston/Manhattan (multiple nights at MSGarden) or New Jersey (Giants Stadium) kind of tour.

That's my guess for their last NA tour. It's easy to think that based on their tours since 1989.

Maybe this coming spring they'll line up 3 or 4 shows so they're in shape for Jazz Fest (hope they'll be able to handle the heat because it can be brutal), similar to what they did a few years ago for Coachella or whatever that was.

Charlie is the oldest and has the most difficult job of the band. Obviously how he recovers from surgery could determine some things. Keith's slipping cognizance and arthritis issues could be twice fold what it was in 2019. It's simply gotten very close to being that time... on top of everything else going on, choices where to spend money, etc...

Take Mick's statement about the new album being the last. Aside from the obvious issue of them getting it together enough to make 12 tracks or whatever, that statement could be taken as a hint about their touring days as well. The romance of them falling apart on stage might be a bit much in reality: some of them might not physically or mentally be able to fall apart on stage, yet alone die on stage.

The whole 'go out in a blaze of glory' is antiquated.

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The Pixies just cancelled their tour, and my show was an outdoor one

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Love to see it.

People getting turned away from the Saints game because of lack of or questionable vax proof.
Also, a mobile vax unit set up there has reportedly been doing a ton of jabs today.
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Between the NFL and other large events working the kinks out of vax or test requirements, and the FDA full approval today, things are looking up for fall concerts. Still think the Stones timing could be perfect

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BKB-Did you notice the cheap seats are the ones that sold? Very telling. St. Louis literally has an entire section of floor seats unsold.

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artedm
Garth Brooks addressed his cancellation with video on facebook today
Important point was why not just postpone to 2022.
Garth said 2022 very hard to get dates at stadiums.

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artedm
Garth Brooks addressed his cancellation with video on facebook today
Important point was why not just postpone to 2022.
Garth said 2022 very hard to get dates at stadiums.

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The stones should cancel the tour out of respect to Charlie watts.

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Charlie wanted them to go on without him but it’s hard picturing them
boys continuing… I don’t think they’ll cancel but we’ll see. I support their decision either way. LOVE YOU CHARLIE.