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Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 13, 2021 23:21

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Didn't want to start a separate thread, and thought this was topical in a way:

[www.rollingstone.com]


Tony retires after cancellation of 2021 tour due to COVID. Mind you, he is 95.

The family wants him to keep touring at 95, six years into Alzheimer's, but his doctors have prevailed, thank god. When I saw the story I thought of Mick, 20 years from now. From what I know of his family, I don't see them doing this.

By the way, there was nothing that said that Covid had anything to do with the cancellations. It was his age and condition, as the article says. You made up "due to COVID," no?

I think I read the ditched the tour due to COVID but if I'm wrong mea culpa.

Most of the articles I've seen mention the long break due to covid as a big factor.

"Moreover, Tony’s 2020-21 Tour was going to be his last tour due to his disease. After the long pause cause by COVID-19, Tony was all set to resume his Fall 2021 Tour in September."
[tecake.com]

Yeah, thanks Mr. DDDD. I did think I read that but at age 95 you had to think the retirement was imminent.

Sad that they couldn't do their desired 'finale' tour. Saw him 9 or 10 years ago. Absolutely fantastic.

Beating a dead horse:

You're thanking him for confirming you were wrong to say that the tour was cancelled due to covid, rather than that the tour, which had been delayed due to covid, was cancelled due to Bennett's worsening physical condition and his manager/son's fear that, after the pandemic delay, it was such that he would fall or something after they pushed him on stage.

I wouldn't say beating...

I'd say you're taking the dead horse, dressing it up in a dress and having unspeakable carnal pleasures with it.

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: Rokyfan ()
Date: August 13, 2021 23:27

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I'd say you're taking the dead horse, dressing it up in a dress and having unspeakable carnal pleasures with it.

I guess you would say that, lacking a cogent response.

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 14, 2021 00:28

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I'd say you're taking the dead horse, dressing it up in a dress and having unspeakable carnal pleasures with it.

I guess you would say that, lacking a cogent response.

I understand you're picking a fight. Why don't you do something more constructive, like brush your teeth or clip your nails?

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 14, 2021 01:03

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I think I read the ditched the tour due to COVID but if I'm wrong mea culpa.

Nice way to respond to a (perceived) error. Discussion shoulda ended there imo.

As pointed out, many articles listed covid as a factor,even in the header.
And indeed it was, just not in the way people who just read a headline or assume things would take it. Not on you.
But great mic drops, kind of a shame they'll get deleted. smileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: Hairball ()
Date: August 14, 2021 02:39

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From the NY Daily News:

“His (Tony's) continued health is the most important part of this,” his son explained. “And when we heard the doctors — when Tony’s wife, Susan heard them — she said, ‘Absolutely not.’ He’ll be doing other things, but not those upcoming shows. It’s not the singing aspect but, rather, the traveling. Look, he gets tired. The decision is being made that doing concerts now is just too much for him. We don’t want him to fall on stage, for instance — something as simple as that.”

I took my mom to see Tony Bennett over 20 years ago as she was a huge fan, and he was very OLD even back then, but I was glad I was able to see him and my mom loved it.
Whether his tour was canceled due to Covid, Alzheimers, or whatever - no denying good old Tony was very, very old at 95. And based on what his son said - "he gets tired" and "we don't want him to fall on stage", etc. -
seems the family were well aware of his deteriorating condition and had good reason to put an end to the tour. Sad, but he had a positively great and very lengthy career, so hats off to him.

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Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: August 14, 2021 06:48

COVID was a part of his, or whoever's, decision for no more touring. "As a result."

One can not be so flip to say Tony Bennett cancelled his tour because he's old. COVID plays a huge part. Tony was very likely told ABC about it, how it would involve ABC and affect ABC... because his plans were to keep going through the agreed deal.

So dumb.

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 14, 2021 07:02

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I think I read the ditched the tour due to COVID but if I'm wrong mea culpa.

Nice way to respond to a (perceived) error. Discussion shoulda ended there imo.

As pointed out, many articles listed covid as a factor,even in the header.
And indeed it was, just not in the way people who just read a headline or assume things would take it. Not on you.
But great mic drops, kind of a shame they'll get deleted. smileys with beer

I wasn't sure whether I was wrong or not so pre-emptively apologized. I've seen so many cancellations due to COVID I figured maybe I just made an incorrect leap of logic. As for the mic drops, sometimes people just want to try to eviscerate you...so you save those for them!

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: ohmercy61 ()
Date: August 14, 2021 20:56

Can anyone confirm Ronnie is in Boston already?

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: August 15, 2021 06:28

I'd say you're taking the dead horse, dressing it up in a dress and having unspeakable carnal pleasures with it.

Nuffin worse than a cross-dressing stallion ..... HHHeee HAWWWW



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Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: Dougratajczak87 ()
Date: August 15, 2021 16:20

Live Nation now requiring vaccination or negative COVID test within 72 hours of show after relative success piloted at Lollapalooza (203 reported cases with 400,000 attendees).


[www.jambase.com]



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Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: crawdaddy ()
Date: August 15, 2021 16:26

Not sure if the subject of how the whole of The Rolling Stones entourage are going to keep Covid infections well away from 'The Rolling Stones Bubble', so to speak.

It's not going to be Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Steve all on their lonesome all the time.

I'm confident Team Rolling Stones will have it all planned as soon as the rehearsals get underway. thumbs up

As we have seen with other bands and performers, just one infection in the Camp can cause a gig postponement/cancellation or even a whole Tour.

It's not gonna happen with The Rolling Stones I'm sure. smileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: angee ()
Date: August 15, 2021 17:17

crawdaddy, what makes you so sure?

~"Love is Strong"~

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: Irix ()
Date: August 15, 2021 18:30

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what makes you so sure?

Because the Stones are working very professional and everything is planned with military precision ....

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: crawdaddy ()
Date: August 15, 2021 18:49

Couldn't put it better Irix. thumbs up

Their team have probably done all their homework as to what to do, and what not to do.

Time is not on their side when it comes to touring, and the Tour of USA must go ahead as UK and Europe will probably not happen if it doesn't.

My glass is definitely half full when it comes to The Rolling Stones fulfilling the contract, hopefully without any more cancellations/postponements. smileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Date: August 15, 2021 18:54

This is the exact reason to go to the first few shows!

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Not sure if the subject of how the whole of The Rolling Stones entourage are going to keep Covid infections well away from 'The Rolling Stones Bubble', so to speak.

It's not going to be Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Steve all on their lonesome all the time.

I'm confident Team Rolling Stones will have it all planned as soon as the rehearsals get underway. thumbs up

As we have seen with other bands and performers, just one infection in the Camp can cause a gig postponement/cancellation or even a whole Tour.

It's not gonna happen with The Rolling Stones I'm sure. smileys with beer

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 15, 2021 20:27

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This is the exact reason to go to the first few shows!

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Not sure if the subject of how the whole of The Rolling Stones entourage are going to keep Covid infections well away from 'The Rolling Stones Bubble', so to speak.

It's not going to be Mick, Keith, Ronnie and Steve all on their lonesome all the time.

I'm confident Team Rolling Stones will have it all planned as soon as the rehearsals get underway. thumbs up

As we have seen with other bands and performers, just one infection in the Camp can cause a gig postponement/cancellation or even a whole Tour.

It's not gonna happen with The Rolling Stones I'm sure. smileys with beer

Tend to agree, and glad I have one fairly early (Nashville) but-

They call it a "wave" for a reason, could very well turnout that the November shows are actually safer in terms of spread. But- if they end up cancelling after a half dozen shows, we won't find that out, so early is better no matter what I guess.

Vaxxes are way up, boosters are on the horizon, if they have to cancel shows, I hope they do it individually based on the location, as opposed to scrapping the whole tour.

U.S. Vaccine Doses Rise to Almost 1 Million a Day Amid New Surge

The U.S. reported almost 1 million Covid-19 vaccine doses on Saturday, the most for a single day since early July, reflecting a faster pace of inoculation as the delta variant spreads.


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported almost 991,000 doses given nationwide. That’s more than double a low point of less than 400,000 reached in mid-July.

Several states hit hardest by the recent surge in infections have reported increased vaccinations, including Arkansas, Mississippi and Louisiana. However, Florida, which broke a record for weekly cases on Friday, reported vaccinations falling week over week.
[www.bloomberg.com]



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Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 16, 2021 04:59

Not familiar with all the venues, but am hoping to get acquainted with a few winking smiley

Anyone make a case for best venue other than the two newest ones?

Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas and SoFi Stadium in Inglewood would seem to be the favorites, but when you consider all the factors- location, size, ambiance, the city, the weather, transportation/lodging options, etc.. maybe not.

Both new stadiums look like something from outer space, both hi-tech with state of the art technology. Both stunning, but I'm thinking SoFi with a construction cost of $5 Billion vs Allegiant's nearly $2 Billion price tag, makes SoFi the one to beat. But- Allegiant may win best venue just based on the location.. easy walk from the strip, many things to do in town etc.

Any other contenders??





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Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: brucepv ()
Date: August 16, 2021 05:14

SoFi has all the cool tech, state of the art video board, and it's located across the street from the Fabulous Forum where the Sones have played many memorable shows, but I give the win to Allegiant as they have the Al Davis Memorial Torch!

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: August 16, 2021 05:50

You will appreciate that warm weather in LA or Vegas come time for these shows. Other places are liable to be freezing cold and/or raining.

I would base the best on either intimacy, which isn't going to happen, or ability to get good seats. Then the weather if the gig is outdoors. The rest is pretty much icing on the cake. Digi porn as it were.

jb

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 16, 2021 06:09

A bit of a wild card is the Circuit of the Americas racetrack in Austin.

Can see the venue being excellent for some. A variety of good seats/bleachers and even a Golden Circle up front, and plenty of interesting areas, entertainment, etc set up around the grounds including camping options.

Austin is also one of the coolest cities to visit. Scheduled now as the closer, further adding to the appeal.
But with the track way outside of town, very limited transportation options, along with the amount of walking and volume of people etc.,
potentially makes it a much bigger commitment and pain in the.. imo.
Have tix in hand and still not certain I'll make this one.





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Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: August 16, 2021 06:09

More like Sci-Fi than SoFieye popping smiley

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: August 16, 2021 06:56

In Austin they are going to be in that "Super Stage" area on the map? Any idea what the capacity is going to be there? Because you are right: Austin is a totally kool city, and that with camping and all looks to be a nice adventure. If it comes down to it and you decide you cannot go, send me an email and maybe I could take your ticket off your hands! Otherwise, I would encourage you to go, could well be the most laid back of any of the show in this run.

jb

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: TornAndFried ()
Date: August 16, 2021 08:21

Best venue? Inside the tent at Robert Kraft's private party in Gillette Stadium.



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Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 16, 2021 15:43

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Best venue? Inside the tent at Robert Kraft's private party in Gillette Stadium.

Winner!!

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 16, 2021 16:03

Nissan Stadium in Nashville makes the top tier for me.

Walking distance to perhaps the coolest city on the tour.
Open air, but the sight lines from the seats for the stadium built in the nineties makes this a much better venue from the field than the stands imo.



Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: ukcal ()
Date: August 16, 2021 19:59

Ronnie Wood seen out in a London theatre Sat 14th august 21

Er !....no mask in a theatre with a large crowd, he is sitting in
the stalls not a private box = massive risk to the tour

Better put Mick taylor on Standby!

What Stones Bubble is that?

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: jmd ()
Date: August 16, 2021 20:10

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In Austin they are going to be in that "Super Stage" area on the map? Any idea what the capacity is going to be there? Because you are right: Austin is a totally kool city, and that with camping and all looks to be a nice adventure. If it comes down to it and you decide you cannot go, send me an email and maybe I could take your ticket off your hands! Otherwise, I would encourage you to go, could well be the most laid back of any of the show in this run.

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I’ve traveled to Austin for F1 race several times; agree that it should be a good weekend so long as it stays dry and not too cold.

COTA rarely provides official information on capacity for the Formula 1 race, so I wouldn’t expect them to provide figures for Stones show. F1 capacity is listed around 120,000, so I’d guess 60,000-70,000, give or take.

(Note that the map in this string may be “aspirational” at best; I’m not sure I’d describe that collection pond out by Lot F as adequate for “fishing and boating” for example. The cart track by Lot A can be fun, though…)

Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: August 16, 2021 23:27

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I’ve traveled to Austin for F1 race several times; agree that it should be a good weekend so long as it stays dry and not too cold.

COTA rarely provides official information on capacity for the Formula 1 race, so I wouldn’t expect them to provide figures for Stones show. F1 capacity is listed around 120,000, so I’d guess 60,000-70,000, give or take.

(Note that the map in this string may be “aspirational” at best; I’m not sure I’d describe that collection pond out by Lot F as adequate for “fishing and boating” for example. The cart track by Lot A can be fun, though…)

Already pre-paid for one of the shuttle busses (x2 that they wouldn't refund), so now I'm more likely to go just to have them make good on it winking smiley

Ever taken one for race days?
Will likely take some extra patience regardless..

Looks like a perfect spot for those with rv's..
I believe I did my last concert/camp situation at Desert Trip (was a blast btw)

Re: The Rolling Stones - 2021 US Tour (Rescheduled Dates + New Shows)
Posted by: timbernardis ()
Date: August 17, 2021 09:06

Which weekend DDDD?


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Re: Best Venue of the Tour
Posted by: jmd ()
Date: August 17, 2021 09:54

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I’ve traveled to Austin for F1 race several times; agree that it should be a good weekend so long as it stays dry and not too cold.

COTA rarely provides official information on capacity for the Formula 1 race, so I wouldn’t expect them to provide figures for Stones show. F1 capacity is listed around 120,000, so I’d guess 60,000-70,000, give or take.

(Note that the map in this string may be “aspirational” at best; I’m not sure I’d describe that collection pond out by Lot F as adequate for “fishing and boating” for example. The cart track by Lot A can be fun, though…)

Already pre-paid for one of the shuttle busses (x2 that they wouldn't refund), so now I'm more likely to go just to have them make good on it winking smiley

Ever taken one for race days?
Will likely take some extra patience regardless..

Looks like a perfect spot for those with rv's..
I believe I did my last concert/camp situation at Desert Trip (was a blast btw)

We usually drive and park in Lot F as we don’t stay downtown. Did take the shuttle one year (2015?) when Austin received about 10 inches of rain before the race. Parking lots were closed due to mud so shuttle was only way to get to COTA. Yes, it required a lot of patience…then again, after 48 hours or so of rain, we were so happy to get out of hotel and watch the race we really didn’t care. I’ve heard after the concerts the traffic out can be brutal so shuttle is likely best choice.

We were at Desert Trip too…weekend #2…no camping though.

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