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Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: steffialicia ()
Date: July 11, 2021 14:31

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Strange to put this sort of issue on a Rolling Stones website but it's strange days indeed. Professional advice is needed. If you are still in love with her counseling can help. If you're not, maybe it's time to go.

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Yep we've been to about 20 sessions and that helped enormously. But last one was in april and it takes about 10 weeks and whoops it starts again. I guess it's all about astrology, I'm a fire sign (aries) and I tell ya it ain't no coincidence both Mick and Keith are fire signs and Brian's a fish. Aquaries and fishes are two special breeds indeed. Test this theory on anyone you know, it actually works.

A lot of musicians are geminies(Both Charlie and Ronnie for instance), as are lotsa american presidents.

I am a double sag with a Leo rising. Both of my husbands were Geminis. Two divorces. I was in love with a pisces once but I think I do best with fire signs. I do wish you the best of luck. Therapy can be very helpful.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: hopkins ()
Date: July 11, 2021 14:37

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Does what it says on the tin folks....

Why are the ladies always try to waste us, makes our candles always burn down?

I love my missus but she sure ain't doin' it right, putting me down all the way down until I just got that Hoodoo blues! Dropping viagra and it ain't comin' to any use so I guess I'm stuck with B2B in Bremen, at least Keith is on fire! Not mentioning the rest!!

Looking forward to Salt Lake, that's for sure, maybe we could get some advice on those customs they are prone to......winking smiley

Right on, Max; wtf up with these chix dude? i am so tired of having to pretend i'm listening to them and interested; you can only nod and smile so many times before it's time to just drink; holy moly get over yourselves girls.
yes you're cute; ok? this is why i got nasty habits; i was a freaking angel but then, .... you know....

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aside from a little satire, that Stones song is a total peach; masters of emotion and soulful lovely track; excellent stoneage tho i usually go for the early stuff or the Let it Bleed stuff mostly lately.



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Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: July 12, 2021 23:19

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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?



The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....

The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!


Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...


My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?


Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.

The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.

This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....

I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.

Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.

I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.


It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!

Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.

It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.

Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.

Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: July 12, 2021 23:28


Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: Bastion ()
Date: July 12, 2021 23:29

Can we make this OT and change the title?

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: Nikkei ()
Date: July 12, 2021 23:31

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Can we make this OT and change the title?

I doubt you being able to make the call if it's OT. Your posts certainly are.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: July 13, 2021 00:30

Dear Ruth Westheimer .....



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Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
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Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: July 13, 2021 22:32

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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?



The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....

The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!


Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...


My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?


Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.

The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.

This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....

I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.

Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.

I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.


It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!

Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.

It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.

Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.

Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.

Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.

Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.

But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.

Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.



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Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
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Date: July 13, 2021 22:53

Uh. Was looking for whatever live versions and came across this one and there is a wonderful souring that happens from 1:47 through 1:51 that is just hilarious.




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Uh. Was looking for whatever live versions and came across this one and there is a wonderful souring that happens from 1:47 through 1:51 that is just hilarious.

Yeah that was pretty funny - and then saved by 2:03 through 2:25. Thank you.

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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?



The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....

The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!


Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...


My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?


Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.

The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.

This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....

I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.

Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.

I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.


It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!

Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.

It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.

Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.

Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.

Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.

Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.

But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.

Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.


This is something that causes tremendous arguments with my 2nd wife, as she doesn't understand why I would have more kids either. My ex-wife and I got pregnant and had actually planned on aborting our first child, but then we both realized that we couldn't do that and cancelled the appointment. I wasn't sure what else to do, and trying to do the right thing, we eloped. But I was young, immature, and worst of all, I wasn't in love with her. Needless to say, I wasn't a good husband to her thru out the tenure of our 12+ year marriage. I wasn't happy, and I'd wanted kids as a way to try and plug that hole, but really that's stupid I realize now. Anyway, the ex almost died giving birth to our 2nd child, along with the child, and she was petrified to have a 3rd, and after giving birth via c-section, she tied her tubes so that she couldn't have anymore, and I already resented her and that just made it worse. That contributed largely to me wanting to leave at that time - knowing that I wouldn't be having anymore kids if I stayed. But like I said, I also wasn't a good husband and there were other factors involved too. I was a selfish little pr!ck back then, I'm afraid, but I knew that she deserved someone who actually loved, cherished, and respected her and the marriage. Unfortunately, that just wasn't me. I spent a large part of my life emulating Mick on a non-Rock Star's salary, and unfortunately, my kids paid the ultimate price for it. They've now all turned against me, as they know now the reason for the divorce, and that's why they no longer talk to me.



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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?



The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....

The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!


Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...


My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?


Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.

The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.

This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....

I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.

Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.

I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.


It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!

Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.

It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.

Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.

Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.

Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.

Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.

But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.

Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.


This is something that causes tremendous arguments with my 2nd wife, as she doesn't understand why I would have more kids either. My ex-wife and I got pregnant and had actually planned on aborting our first child, but then we both realized that we couldn't do that and cancelled the appointment. I wasn't sure what else to do, and trying to do the right thing, we eloped. But I was young, immature, and worst of all, I wasn't in love with her. Needless to say, I wasn't a good husband to her thru out the tenure of our 12+ year marriage. I wasn't happy, and I'd wanted kids as a way to try and plug that hole, but really that's stupid I realize now. Anyway, the ex almost died giving birth to our 2nd child, along with the child, and she was petrified to have a 3rd, and after giving birth via c-section, she tied her tubes so that she couldn't have anymore, and I already resented her and that just made it worse. That contributed largely to me wanting to leave at that time - knowing that I wouldn't be having anymore kids if I stayed. But like I said, I also wasn't a good husband and there were other factors involved too. I was a selfish little pr!ck back then, I'm afraid, but I knew that she deserved someone who actually loved, cherished, and respected her and the marriage. Unfortunately, that just wasn't me. I spent a large part of my life emulating Mick on a non-Rock Star's salary, and unfortunately, my kids paid the ultimate price for it. They've now all turned against me, as they know now the reason for the divorce, and that's why they no longer talk to me.

Still I think you didnae do anything wrong. Emulating Jagger? Well she should've liked it. I emulate Keef most of the time, with GREAT results (although with a much stronger libido ) I might add, and most of the time, she is always in my mind, to paraphrase Bob. Now, I got a new job, working my butt off but she (my missus) just ignore me and don't understand that rather that she get stressed (which she says) because I call 3-4 times during my break she won't return my calls at all and think it is perfectly natural. Thank GOD my daughter is on my side. People like these should receive a licence before they are allowed to bring up children! F**in Norman Bates vibes all over. Unfortunately. Time to fly to the Lone Star State and get Sad Sad Sad I tell ya!!!

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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?



The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....

The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!


Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...


My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?


Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.

The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.

This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....

I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.

Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.

I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.


It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!

Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.

It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.

Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.

Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.

Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.

Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.

But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.

Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.


This is something that causes tremendous arguments with my 2nd wife, as she doesn't understand why I would have more kids either. My ex-wife and I got pregnant and had actually planned on aborting our first child, but then we both realized that we couldn't do that and cancelled the appointment. I wasn't sure what else to do, and trying to do the right thing, we eloped. But I was young, immature, and worst of all, I wasn't in love with her. Needless to say, I wasn't a good husband to her thru out the tenure of our 12+ year marriage. I wasn't happy, and I'd wanted kids as a way to try and plug that hole, but really that's stupid I realize now. Anyway, the ex almost died giving birth to our 2nd child, along with the child, and she was petrified to have a 3rd, and after giving birth via c-section, she tied her tubes so that she couldn't have anymore, and I already resented her and that just made it worse. That contributed largely to me wanting to leave at that time - knowing that I wouldn't be having anymore kids if I stayed. But like I said, I also wasn't a good husband and there were other factors involved too. I was a selfish little pr!ck back then, I'm afraid, but I knew that she deserved someone who actually loved, cherished, and respected her and the marriage. Unfortunately, that just wasn't me. I spent a large part of my life emulating Mick on a non-Rock Star's salary, and unfortunately, my kids paid the ultimate price for it. They've now all turned against me, as they know now the reason for the divorce, and that's why they no longer talk to me.

Still I think you didnae do anything wrong. Emulating Jagger? Well she should've liked it. I emulate Keef most of the time, with GREAT results (although with a much stronger libido ) I might add, and most of the time, she is always in my mind, to paraphrase Bob. Now, I got a new job, working my butt off but she (my missus) just ignore me and don't understand that rather that she get stressed (which she says) because I call 3-4 times during my break she won't return my calls at all and think it is perfectly natural. Thank GOD my daughter is on my side. People like these should receive a licence before they are allowed to bring up children! F**in Norman Bates vibes all over. Unfortunately. Time to fly to the Lone Star State and get Sad Sad Sad I tell ya!!!


Not the good qualities of Jagger. Let's face it, Mick has had a wandering eye most of his life....

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
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Date: August 16, 2021 15:52

So it seems that the 2nd Mrs. and I are headed for the same ending as the 1st, and this time no other parties were involved. We just cannot seem to make it work and realize at the end of the day that we really just want different things out of life and those things do not in any way, shape, or form line up with what the other person wants. Very sad because I had, at one time, thought us to be soulmates. I guess I've known for some time this would be the ending, but I just couldn't bring myself to bear being twice divorced when really all I'd wanted in life was to be married with a family. I'd just chosen the wrong person to have the family with.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: MadMax ()
Date: August 16, 2021 18:04

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VoodooLounge13
So it seems that the 2nd Mrs. and I are headed for the same ending as the 1st, and this time no other parties were involved. We just cannot seem to make it work and realize at the end of the day that we really just want different things out of life and those things do not in any way, shape, or form line up with what the other person wants. Very sad because I had, at one time, thought us to be soulmates. I guess I've known for some time this would be the ending, but I just couldn't bring myself to bear being twice divorced when really all I'd wanted in life was to be married with a family. I'd just chosen the wrong person to have the family with.

Man, it breaks my heart to hear this. I think about you and I hope you are ok. Things doesn't seem so rosey at this end either, I suspect some people just get too damaged during their chilhood and then they get determined to get the same outcome in their own lives.

I guess one should keep a perspective in these days what with what happens right now in Kabul. The world ain't a fun place at the moment, those planet-cuddling days seems to be over but I hope the Stones can help us turn it around, a bit at least....



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Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: August 16, 2021 20:17

Thank you, Max. I have been thinking about you as well and often check to see if there's been any update to this thread. I'm sorry to hear that things have not gotten any better for you. I had had no relationship - no contact - with my kids for a solid two years when the 2nd Mrs. came into my life. She is that child whose dad walked away and wanted nothing to do with her - not that that was me. I tried and tried and tried, but my ex had turned the kids against me, and in order to maintain my sanity and not destroy my own life, I chose to give up. But #2, she wouldn't hear of that. Said I needed to fight for them, that all she wanted was a relationship with her dad and he couldn't care less. So I did and for a while, things were better, but then between COVID and my admitting to being a sh!tty-@ssed husband to their mom has left me without my kids again, and it pains me beyond measure. I had had a crappy relationship with my father since childhood too, and #2 was able to get me to work thru that and my dad and I now enjoy the best relationship we ever have. I truly believed her to be more than just a deep footprint in my life. I knew her to be someone who should stay in my life, and I have sacrificed sooooo much to be with her - gave up friends and most of my family (and a decent sized inheritance) because they didn't like her, and all along I followed my heart and what it told me, though it wasn't - or hasn't - always been easy. And yet despite it all here I am.....credit card given and papers being drawn up. Sometimes the most courageous thing is to walk away, and I've only very recently come to understand that. I've made a life out of giving up, and she had been the only thing that I kept fighting for. In the end, I am the one who has been broken and beaten down to a shred of the guy I used to be. I need to find myself again, build my self-confidence back up, as well as my self-worth.

If there is a bright side in any of this, I have been listening to the Stones again with much more regularity, and I am getting caught up on some things that I've missed - like the GHS re-release. I am also seriously considering the drive to Pittsburgh to finally capture my 13th Stones show. To do so would mean that I would most likely have to get vax'd, so for all those of you who feud with me over that point, you should be glad. I do think this will be the last time we get to see the band stateside, as I really don't see COVID going away anytime soon, if ever.

And once I move past the debt of a second divorce, find my place, and settle in to my new routine, I will get caught back up on all the releases I've not been able to purchase these past 6 years.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: August 23, 2021 15:59

I have finally relented and after much hesitation and not wanting to believe my 2nd marriage over, I have given the go-ahead to the lawyer to charge my credit card. Though she's had the info for some time now, I could not bring myself to let go.


And now, so begins figuring out what my life will be yet again...

No Use In Crying

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: treaclefingers ()
Date: August 23, 2021 16:18

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VoodooLounge13
I have finally relented and after much hesitation and not wanting to believe my 2nd marriage over, I have given the go-ahead to the lawyer to charge my credit card. Though she's had the info for some time now, I could not bring myself to let go.


And now, so begins figuring out what my life will be yet again...

No Use In Crying

Hang in there man. It sounds trite but the new opportunity is around the corner, just don't be too hard on yourself or feel in a rush to get there. Everyone makes mistakes in life and you have the power to make things better. Best of luck with it.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: August 23, 2021 20:23

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treaclefingers
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VoodooLounge13
I have finally relented and after much hesitation and not wanting to believe my 2nd marriage over, I have given the go-ahead to the lawyer to charge my credit card. Though she's had the info for some time now, I could not bring myself to let go.


And now, so begins figuring out what my life will be yet again...

No Use In Crying

Hang in there man. It sounds trite but the new opportunity is around the corner, just don't be too hard on yourself or feel in a rush to get there. Everyone makes mistakes in life and you have the power to make things better. Best of luck with it.


Thanks. I'm gutted. If only you knew the battle we had to wage to even get this far together, to now only see it all blown to sh!t.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: August 23, 2021 20:45

I've made a few Stones purchases - Havana Moon, Confessin The Blues, and the SW Live RSD Picture Disc . Much, much more in assorted carts and pricing needs to be arranged. It's something like $4,000?! But I also want to be ready if the tour does go ahead, and so will need to get vax'd. And I am looking to move out of state - either to NC or TN. Just need a fresh start, me and my lil dog.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: August 23, 2021 20:47

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VoodooLounge13
I've made a few Stones purchases - Havana Moon, Confessin The Blues, and the SW Live RSD Picture Disc . Much, much more in assorted carts and pricing needs to be arranged. It's something like $4,000?! But I also want to be ready if the tour does go ahead, and so will need to get vax'd. And I am looking to move out of state - either to NC or TN. Just need a fresh start, me and my lil dog.

Everyone is moving to Middle Tennessee (Nashville area). Housing prices have soared in the last year. Californians everywhere.

Re: Ya just a Memory of a love that used to be
Posted by: VoodooLounge13 ()
Date: August 23, 2021 22:36

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NashvilleBlues
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VoodooLounge13
I've made a few Stones purchases - Havana Moon, Confessin The Blues, and the SW Live RSD Picture Disc . Much, much more in assorted carts and pricing needs to be arranged. It's something like $4,000?! But I also want to be ready if the tour does go ahead, and so will need to get vax'd. And I am looking to move out of state - either to NC or TN. Just need a fresh start, me and my lil dog.

Everyone is moving to Middle Tennessee (Nashville area). Housing prices have soared in the last year. Californians everywhere.

I'm actually looking in the Granite Falls/Hickory/Lenoir area of NC, though I'd prefer to be a bit closer to Asheville, or the Eastern most part of TN so that I'm still about an hour's drive to Asheville. Like Nashville, but to me, I prefer Memphis. Just a cooler city I think, and I could watch the mighty Miss roll past allll day long.

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