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Strange to put this sort of issue on a Rolling Stones website but it's strange days indeed. Professional advice is needed. If you are still in love with her counseling can help. If you're not, maybe it's time to go.
Yep we've been to about 20 sessions and that helped enormously. But last one was in april and it takes about 10 weeks and whoops it starts again. I guess it's all about astrology, I'm a fire sign (aries) and I tell ya it ain't no coincidence both Mick and Keith are fire signs and Brian's a fish. Aquaries and fishes are two special breeds indeed. Test this theory on anyone you know, it actually works.
A lot of musicians are geminies(Both Charlie and Ronnie for instance), as are lotsa american presidents.
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Why are the ladies always try to waste us, makes our candles always burn down?
I love my missus but she sure ain't doin' it right, putting me down all the way down until I just got that Hoodoo blues! Dropping viagra and it ain't comin' to any use so I guess I'm stuck with B2B in Bremen, at least Keith is on fire! Not mentioning the rest!!
Looking forward to Salt Lake, that's for sure, maybe we could get some advice on those customs they are prone to......
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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?
The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....
The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!
Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...
My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?
Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.
The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.
This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....
I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.
Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.
I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.
It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!
Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.
It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.
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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?
The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....
The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!
Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...
My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?
Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.
The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.
This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....
I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.
Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.
I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.
It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!
Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.
It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.
Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.
Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.
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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?
The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....
The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!
Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...
My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?
Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.
The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.
This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....
I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.
Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.
I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.
It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!
Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.
It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.
Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.
Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.
Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.
Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.
But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.
Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.
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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?
The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....
The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!
Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...
My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?
Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.
The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.
This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....
I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.
Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.
I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.
It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!
Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.
It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.
Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.
Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.
Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.
Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.
But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.
Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.
This is something that causes tremendous arguments with my 2nd wife, as she doesn't understand why I would have more kids either. My ex-wife and I got pregnant and had actually planned on aborting our first child, but then we both realized that we couldn't do that and cancelled the appointment. I wasn't sure what else to do, and trying to do the right thing, we eloped. But I was young, immature, and worst of all, I wasn't in love with her. Needless to say, I wasn't a good husband to her thru out the tenure of our 12+ year marriage. I wasn't happy, and I'd wanted kids as a way to try and plug that hole, but really that's stupid I realize now. Anyway, the ex almost died giving birth to our 2nd child, along with the child, and she was petrified to have a 3rd, and after giving birth via c-section, she tied her tubes so that she couldn't have anymore, and I already resented her and that just made it worse. That contributed largely to me wanting to leave at that time - knowing that I wouldn't be having anymore kids if I stayed. But like I said, I also wasn't a good husband and there were other factors involved too. I was a selfish little pr!ck back then, I'm afraid, but I knew that she deserved someone who actually loved, cherished, and respected her and the marriage. Unfortunately, that just wasn't me. I spent a large part of my life emulating Mick on a non-Rock Star's salary, and unfortunately, my kids paid the ultimate price for it. They've now all turned against me, as they know now the reason for the divorce, and that's why they no longer talk to me.
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If you're into that stuff, can you tell me how Libra goes with Libra? Are they complementing each other perfectly or do they sort of zero-sum cancel out?
The same here mate! Only I'm aries (fire sign too) but the missus is aquaries and she sure is a master in making me feel unwanted to paraphrase Gram Parsons.....
The quote saying that fire needs air but not vice-versa, how I wish I would've known that 5 years ago!
Nikkei good news!: The Libra with Libra romance is a breeze. It's like looking into a mirror and loving what you see. Early dates clue them in that they've found an intellectual equal. ... Libra Suns know how to turn a phrase and stay mutually dazzled by the conversation...
My ex-wife is cancer and the worst match for a aries is cancer, interestingly enough we were married for about 6 months..... Guess fire needs fire...?
Madmax,
Yes indeed, fire does work best with fire it would seem: Overall, an Aries man will happily match and marry star signs such as Aries, Sagittarius, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Gemini. Ironically, one of Aquarius' best matches is Libra, which is what my ex-wife is, and I was bored out of my mind. Leo and Aquarius CAN work, but it is a lifetime commitment to a LOT of work and PATIENCE.
The fact that aquarius' best friend is a libra I just read the last week mate! Then it all made sense to me as the missus can't let go of her mother who happens to be.. a LIBRA! They're really best friends, it's a god damn disaster I tell ya! She is my best friend but I am not her best friend, which is quite humiliating.
This is the biggest obstacle in our relationship, which is a pity as I love her to bits and I can't live without her. I would die for her in an instant but when it's bad I am very much tempted to call her by the name of Norma, after a certain Anthony Perkins....
I can relate to a lot of that Max.......I'd do the same for my Missus, and we often have brutal arguments that have gone to the dark side of the spectrum at times. Doesn't help that we also come from VERY different backgrounds either - she's a city chick from a dysfunctional family, and I'm a country boy thru and thru. She barely made it thru high school, and I'm a college grad. I'm a a divorcee with 3 kids from my first marriage, and my ex doesn't work - she was a stay at home mom, and in NY, I was taken to the cleaners for that. It's INSANE the amount that I had to pay out in alimony and still pay in child support. I literally count down the days, day by day til the kids drop off one by one. But despite all of that, we are coming up on 3 years married at the end of this month, and we are committed to working thru our differences and figuring out how to make this marriage work. I, too, need her to be my best friend, but don't often feel like she is. It's a matter of training your brain to forget about the negative stuff and really focus on the positive and why you want to be together in the first place - what brought you together and why did you get married. That sort of thing. It can definitely get better bro, but you BOTH have to be committed to putting in the effort to you's back there.
Voodoo, Bro I really appreciate your words, I feel very lonely at the moment as it is a really bad situation right now. I am so happy for you that you have your wife by your side, from your description I am sure she loves you deeply. I do not receive those signals at all from my (who I want to be) "soulmate". I know a lot of people don't believe astrology but it actually helps me a lot during this horrible time.
I am commited but I am starting to doubt she is. I come from a very stable home with mum and dad still together after 44 years of marriage and I got no intention to get divorced again, whereas my lady had a quite rough upbringing in a latin american country with her dad abusive and missing most of the time. Now I feel she project her experiences again at us which breaks my heart. I am always happy and positive but she can get real dark and then it is impossible to get through to her. She knows I die for her and every time we have a crisis (which is way to often) she thanks me afterwards for standing by her.
It's tough, MadMax, no doubt about that. There have been plenty of times that I've thought of leaving, and even have left for a few days, or she's thrown me out, and I go stay at the folks house for a few days. We actually split for a few months earlier this year. We were doing really bad leading up to COVID, headed for a divorce, and then COVID forced us to be holed up together here and we survived that. Not without some turbulence, but we made it thru nonetheless, and coming out of it, we were headed for tough times again. I haven't seen my kids since Oct. 2019, and they have no interest in Facetiming or anything, barely pick up the phone when I call, or respond to my texts, so I've been really depressed with that, feeling like a sh-t father. Add to that the problems in my marriage, and I myself was in a dark place a few months back. Even put a knife to my chest, and that's what led to our splitting up for a few months. We have photos all over our condo of different places and things we've done together and it helps to make us remember why we are here. Many of my friends have said to leave too, and of course, that doesn't help either. In my heart, I know she is my soulmate, and the only person for me, which is why I can't let her go. She's helped me mend my relationship with my kids, and even with my dad, who I hadn't had a good relationship for a few decades. She's an integral part of my life, and when all of the BS is put aside, we know why we are together. Unfortunately, a lot of that BS does seep in and makes it harder. Try sitting her down and having a talk with her. Tell her how you feel, try to get her to remember why she's with you. Best of luck!!
Bro, I recognize a lot of what you tells me in my own situation. Not seeing the kids for years must be hell, I saw my baby girl yesterday for the first time in 15 days, to me it's another 15 days in our lives that are wasted. She is my life and her smile and laughter when we play music, eat together, dance, and have fun means everything. I just wish the missus would adress her own issues and show a little empathy and keep a dialouge with me. Again, I now accept how she is (thanks to the astrological explanations I've found) whereas I couldn't do that before, what with the extreme closeness to her mum and minimal or (like now) non-existent communication. Now I'm pretty cool with her behaviour if we just can get together. Still, outta 365 days a year I would like at least 350 of them to be great as that is how I always have lived and assumed the future would be.
It slowly breaks me apart, the mornings being the worst as I always have slept very well but now I sleep for 4-5 hours and then I lay awake for 2-3 and then I finally can sleep a litle more. Horrible. I am going to see our couple therapist on my own to try to understand her more as the therapist know her quite well. It is disaster on all fronts. All I want is to be together with my little family as life should be celebrated as much as possible, not spat on.
Yes, there's so much time wasted with my kids, and with the Mrs. Each time we fight and don't speak, it's time wasted, and then one never knows when one's life will end. Look at all those people who died in 9/11 (insert your own tragedy here, as I feel like you are not Stateside), and how many of them had gone to work that morning while in the midst of an argument with a loved one. Tragic. So tragic and wasteful. My ex used my kids against me when I first tried to leave, when my youngest was just 6 months old. Told me I couldn't have any contact with my kids until I decided what I wanted out of life. I lasted 7 days. I was never prepared for that sort of separation, and it took me another 8 years to work up the courage and mentally be prepared to not see them everyday, be there when they got off the bus. But now that they're older, and even more brainwashed by the ex, they don't want anything to do with Dad anymore, and it's devastating. My wife tries to comfort me, but a lot of what she says is not helpful - things like these are the repercussions of the choices you made in life, deal with it. Be an adult about it. Let it go, so your kids don't want anything to do with you. Oh well. Move on. It's not always easy - especially since she and I can't have kids, so if I really wanted more, I'd have to get a divorce, and I don't want that. I don't want kids just to have them. I wanted more with my current wife, but it wasn't meant to be, and I accept that.
Hope you're doing OK, Max. I'm thinking of you.
Your thoughts and words means the world for me Voodoo! A big hug! Today was another nail in the coffin for us as we met at a solicitor's office. She barely looked at me (the missus, not the solicitor) and was just her ususal (for the last 2 weeks) stone cold self. It is destroying me.
Yeah I agree about the 9/11 example, she had such a (in its places) dark and bad childhood so it's like she wants to project the same suffering at our daughter. She can not feel grateful and appreciate the beauty in life and the fact that her man loves her endlessly and that we have such an amazing little girl and that we actually are ALIVE. She is like a certain Führer during the last week in the Berlin bunker, as it sometimes feels like she just wanna bring as much casualties as possible with her. I keep telling her I am in no way like her father and that I work non-stop for us, it is just bleedin' IMPOSSIBLE to be three in the relationship as her mother is almost more worth to her than our daughter. I guess it doesn't help that my little baby points her index finger to her head and says mummy in front of me and my mother-in-law and other people.
But I really think the answers lay in the history of people, their childhood and astrology.
Voodoo, Bro, may I be so bold and ask you why you wanted to leave your ex-wife after your third baby just had arrived? I wish my woman wanted to have two more as she is the love of my life, I pray for us every day to get together again. I am so glad you got your current wife near you, this loneliness is killing me, it's so unnnecessary. If one wants to be alone fine, but if one got a child with another they should be together if the love's there.
This is something that causes tremendous arguments with my 2nd wife, as she doesn't understand why I would have more kids either. My ex-wife and I got pregnant and had actually planned on aborting our first child, but then we both realized that we couldn't do that and cancelled the appointment. I wasn't sure what else to do, and trying to do the right thing, we eloped. But I was young, immature, and worst of all, I wasn't in love with her. Needless to say, I wasn't a good husband to her thru out the tenure of our 12+ year marriage. I wasn't happy, and I'd wanted kids as a way to try and plug that hole, but really that's stupid I realize now. Anyway, the ex almost died giving birth to our 2nd child, along with the child, and she was petrified to have a 3rd, and after giving birth via c-section, she tied her tubes so that she couldn't have anymore, and I already resented her and that just made it worse. That contributed largely to me wanting to leave at that time - knowing that I wouldn't be having anymore kids if I stayed. But like I said, I also wasn't a good husband and there were other factors involved too. I was a selfish little pr!ck back then, I'm afraid, but I knew that she deserved someone who actually loved, cherished, and respected her and the marriage. Unfortunately, that just wasn't me. I spent a large part of my life emulating Mick on a non-Rock Star's salary, and unfortunately, my kids paid the ultimate price for it. They've now all turned against me, as they know now the reason for the divorce, and that's why they no longer talk to me.
Still I think you didnae do anything wrong. Emulating Jagger? Well she should've liked it. I emulate Keef most of the time, with GREAT results (although with a much stronger libido ) I might add, and most of the time, she is always in my mind, to paraphrase Bob. Now, I got a new job, working my butt off but she (my missus) just ignore me and don't understand that rather that she get stressed (which she says) because I call 3-4 times during my break she won't return my calls at all and think it is perfectly natural. Thank GOD my daughter is on my side. People like these should receive a licence before they are allowed to bring up children! F**in Norman Bates vibes all over. Unfortunately. Time to fly to the Lone Star State and get Sad Sad Sad I tell ya!!!
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So it seems that the 2nd Mrs. and I are headed for the same ending as the 1st, and this time no other parties were involved. We just cannot seem to make it work and realize at the end of the day that we really just want different things out of life and those things do not in any way, shape, or form line up with what the other person wants. Very sad because I had, at one time, thought us to be soulmates. I guess I've known for some time this would be the ending, but I just couldn't bring myself to bear being twice divorced when really all I'd wanted in life was to be married with a family. I'd just chosen the wrong person to have the family with.
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I have finally relented and after much hesitation and not wanting to believe my 2nd marriage over, I have given the go-ahead to the lawyer to charge my credit card. Though she's had the info for some time now, I could not bring myself to let go.
And now, so begins figuring out what my life will be yet again...
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I have finally relented and after much hesitation and not wanting to believe my 2nd marriage over, I have given the go-ahead to the lawyer to charge my credit card. Though she's had the info for some time now, I could not bring myself to let go.
And now, so begins figuring out what my life will be yet again...
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Hang in there man. It sounds trite but the new opportunity is around the corner, just don't be too hard on yourself or feel in a rush to get there. Everyone makes mistakes in life and you have the power to make things better. Best of luck with it.
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I've made a few Stones purchases - Havana Moon, Confessin The Blues, and the SW Live RSD Picture Disc . Much, much more in assorted carts and pricing needs to be arranged. It's something like $4,000?! But I also want to be ready if the tour does go ahead, and so will need to get vax'd. And I am looking to move out of state - either to NC or TN. Just need a fresh start, me and my lil dog.
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I've made a few Stones purchases - Havana Moon, Confessin The Blues, and the SW Live RSD Picture Disc . Much, much more in assorted carts and pricing needs to be arranged. It's something like $4,000?! But I also want to be ready if the tour does go ahead, and so will need to get vax'd. And I am looking to move out of state - either to NC or TN. Just need a fresh start, me and my lil dog.
Everyone is moving to Middle Tennessee (Nashville area). Housing prices have soared in the last year. Californians everywhere.