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You don’t know that Italy dominated the entire match after 15 minutes.Give credit to the winner.Even if say Sterling kicked one of the penalties, he could have also not scored.Like Bagglio at the World Cup in 1994, who was a lot better player than anyone on the English squadQuote
Stoneage
To sum this up: What decided the outcome of the final was gaffer Southgate's pick of three substitutes, who had hardly touched the ball, to take the deciding penalties.
A bad choice, anyway you look at it. He also threw away a knighthood by doing so.
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Taylor1You don’t know that Italy dominated the entire match after 15 minutes.Give credit to the winner.Even if say Sterling kicked one of the penalties, he could have also not scored.Like Bagglio at the World Cup in 1994, who was a lot better player than anyone on the English squadQuote
Stoneage
To sum this up: What decided the outcome of the final was gaffer Southgate's pick of three substitutes, who had hardly touched the ball, to take the deciding penalties.
A bad choice, anyway you look at it. He also threw away a knighthood by doing so.
Show me the proof that a more veteran player like Sterling would have made his penalty kick. See Bagglio at the World Cup final 1994.He was one of the greatest players of all time yet missed.I agree had others other than the 3 young English players had kicked, the odds are much greater they could have won .But you can’t say England definitely would have wonQuote
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Taylor1You don’t know that Italy dominated the entire match after 15 minutes.Give credit to the winner.Even if say Sterling kicked one of the penalties, he could have also not scored.Like Bagglio at the World Cup in 1994, who was a lot better player than anyone on the English squadQuote
Stoneage
To sum this up: What decided the outcome of the final was gaffer Southgate's pick of three substitutes, who had hardly touched the ball, to take the deciding penalties.
A bad choice, anyway you look at it. He also threw away a knighthood by doing so.
Yes, I do know that Italy had more possession of the ball than England. And I have already given credit to the winner - Italy. I'm just talking about the thing that made the difference between gold and silver.
In football it is the goals that counts. Nothing else.
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Taylor1Show me the proof that a more veteran player like Sterling would have made his penalty kick. See Bagglio at the World Cup final 1994.He was one of the greatest players of all time yet missed.I agree had others other than the 3 young English players had kicked, the odds are much greater they could have won .But you can’t say England definitely would have wonQuote
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Taylor1You don’t know that Italy dominated the entire match after 15 minutes.Give credit to the winner.Even if say Sterling kicked one of the penalties, he could have also not scored.Like Bagglio at the World Cup in 1994, who was a lot better player than anyone on the English squadQuote
Stoneage
To sum this up: What decided the outcome of the final was gaffer Southgate's pick of three substitutes, who had hardly touched the ball, to take the deciding penalties.
A bad choice, anyway you look at it. He also threw away a knighthood by doing so.
Yes, I do know that Italy had more possession of the ball than England. And I have already given credit to the winner - Italy. I'm just talking about the thing that made the difference between gold and silver.
In football it is the goals that counts. Nothing else.
They could have done just as bad also.And you don’t have to prove anything to me because you can’t prove it to Anyone that they definitely make those kicks.Quote
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Taylor1Show me the proof that a more veteran player like Sterling would have made his penalty kick. See Bagglio at the World Cup final 1994.He was one of the greatest players of all time yet missed.I agree had others other than the 3 young English players had kicked, the odds are much greater they could have won .But you can’t say England definitely would have wonQuote
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Taylor1You don’t know that Italy dominated the entire match after 15 minutes.Give credit to the winner.Even if say Sterling kicked one of the penalties, he could have also not scored.Like Bagglio at the World Cup in 1994, who was a lot better player than anyone on the English squadQuote
Stoneage
To sum this up: What decided the outcome of the final was gaffer Southgate's pick of three substitutes, who had hardly touched the ball, to take the deciding penalties.
A bad choice, anyway you look at it. He also threw away a knighthood by doing so.
Yes, I do know that Italy had more possession of the ball than England. And I have already given credit to the winner - Italy. I'm just talking about the thing that made the difference between gold and silver.
In football it is the goals that counts. Nothing else.
First of all, his name was Baggio, Roberto Baggio. I do remember him well, an excellent player. Secondly, I don't have to prove anything to you. Thirdly, No one can say what would have happened had three other players taken the last penalties. Maybe, Italy would have won anyway? The only thing we can be sure of is that they could not have done worse.
France was the best team in 2018 in Russia during the World cup.Quote
liddas
As I see it, in Europe France - despite this EC harakiri - remains by far the strongest team.
In all other teams I see lots of good players, but no real champions. Clearly a transition period. England and Spain have started a new cycle, Germany who knows, and Belgium an Holland are way overrated.
it could also be that it’s me that is growing old.
Remember Milan when Sacchi was the manager. Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard and the rest were almost all Italian nationals. One of the strongest teams that I have ever seen. Yet, the oldies at the stadium used to complain like I do now: Rivera’s Milan was something else!
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liddas
As I see it, in Europe France - despite this EC harakiri - remains by far the strongest team.
In all other teams I see lots of good players, but no real champions. Clearly a transition period. England and Spain have started a new cycle, Germany who knows, and Belgium an Holland are way overrated.
it could also be that it’s me that is growing old.
Remember Milan when Sacchi was the manager. Gullit, Van Basten, Rijkaard and the rest were almost all Italian nationals. One of the strongest teams that I have ever seen. Yet, the oldies at the stadium used to complain like I do now: Rivera’s Milan was something else!
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georgie48
Rivera's 60s AC Milan were my all time favourite soccer team when I was a highschool youngster. I still have my school agenda of those days with the names of the players somewhere ...