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Next year in Qatar, England will be a serious favourite with Italy.
Maybe they'll meet again in the final ..that would be awsome !
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Next year in Qatar, England will be a serious favourite with Italy.
Maybe they'll meet again in the final ..that would be awsome !
I don’t think England will be anywhere near the final in the World Cup next year they are simply not good enough.England were very fortunate to play some weak teams in this tournament including a below average Germany team and they played all but one of their games at Wembley.When they came up against a world class team in Italy last night they were made to look like children.
Let’s not forget that half the country voted for this result in 2016
Congratulations to Italy.
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Paris75014
Next year in Qatar, England will be a serious favourite with Italy.
Maybe they'll meet again in the final ..that would be awsome !
I don’t think England will be anywhere near the final in the World Cup next year they are simply not good enough.England were very fortunate to play some weak teams in this tournament including a below average Germany team and they played all but one of their games at Wembley.When they came up against a world class team in Italy last night they were made to look like children.
Let’s not forget that half the country voted for this result in 2016
Congratulations to Italy.
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Here come the jealous haters hating and turning everything into politics.
So after 33 unbeaten games going into this match Italy couldn't beat England after 120 minutes of dirty tricks and fouls and you think England are no way good enough.
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Next year in Qatar, England will be a serious favourite with Italy.
Maybe they'll meet again in the final ..that would be awsome !
I don’t think England will be anywhere near the final in the World Cup next year they are simply not good enough.England were very fortunate to play some weak teams in this tournament including a below average Germany team and they played all but one of their games at Wembley.When they came up against a world class team in Italy last night they were made to look like children.
Let’s not forget that half the country voted for this result in 2016
Congratulations to Italy.
Nate
Here come the jealous haters hating and turning everything into politics.
So after 33 unbeaten games going into this match Italy couldn't beat England after 120 minutes of dirty tricks and fouls and you think England are no way good enough.
"Dirty tricks and fouls" ... I think they were equally produced by both teams. Stewart (great soccer player) tried to fool the Dutch referee multiple times with his "schwalben", making him a cheap person. The referee warned Phillips that he would "yellow" him after having observed three dirty moves on Italian players, and so on.
Come on, be a fair looser, Rocktiludrop, be a real Englishman! Keep the Fish & Chips mentality high! Let England be proud of having reached the final ... you can't win them all.
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Next year in Qatar, England will be a serious favourite with Italy.
Maybe they'll meet again in the final ..that would be awsome !
I don’t think England will be anywhere near the final in the World Cup next year they are simply not good enough.England were very fortunate to play some weak teams in this tournament including a below average Germany team and they played all but one of their games at Wembley. When they came up against a world class team in Italy last night they were made to look like children.
Let’s not forget that half the country voted for this result in 2016
Congratulations to Italy.
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Italy had time of possession 62 %to England38%.Italy had 756 completed passes to England 341.Italy had11chances completed to England 3.After 15 minutes, Italy totally dominated England.
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Stewart (great soccer player) tried to fool the Dutch referee multiple times with his "schwalben"...
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liddas
Mancini, Italy's manager, deserves all the cred for this victory. He made Italy play football, this Italy! And one should also consider the players that could noy make it because injured.
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PS can somebody explain why the English players pulled the medal off a s soon as they received it?
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Mancini, Italy's manager, deserves all the cred for this victory. He made Italy play football, this Italy! And one should also consider the players that could noy make it because injured.
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PS can somebody explain why the English players pulled the medal off a s soon as they received it?
most likely for the same reason why most fans left the stadium - a mixture frustration and impoliteness
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Stewart (great soccer player) tried to fool the Dutch referee multiple times with his "schwalben"...
Come on,you can't blame Stu for that...
Beside that I agree with you...
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PS can somebody explain why the English players pulled the medal off a s soon as they received it?
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After two minutes I had the same feeling as I had in 1974 (while in Tokyo watching the WC final live) when the Dutch scored within 5 minutes against the Germans ... Aaah, this is far too early to cheer. And yes, the Dutch (being by far the best team during that championship) ... lost.
Euforism is merely "fooling yourself".
Sorry Big Al, it's "pizza" after all. Still England should be happy with its overall performance during this championship. Too bad that Racism surfaced so quickly. Some can't hide their sick minds.
Next year there is another chance (as long as England doesn't meet the Dutch team ).
Not within 5 minutes. After 1 minute ... per penalty which was not a penalty. Uli Hoeneß fouled Johann Cruyff in front of the penalty area. And Gerd Müller scored in the second half another goal ... which was no offside ...Then the game would have been decided early on.
Thanks for the details RJ! 47 years ... well, 1 minute was within 5 minutes
Anyway, the Dutch were "the stars" of the tournament (according to the Japanese newspapers, I read the English versions ) but over-confidence "killed the beast". Were the English over-confident this time?
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You are too kind RJ. The Dutch coach had introduced the 5-3-2 system, which was a very strange decision. The Dutch defence was chaotic in the first matches and they got away with a lucky win against Ukraine. Austria and North Macedonia allowed them to play and then there was some very nice football. Against the Tsjechs it became a mix between 5-3-2 and 4-3-3. Dreadful. Unlike England and Italy the Dutch coach failed to make a TEAM. Louis van Gaal (could be the next coach, once again) said "een veredeld stelletje sterren konden het niet waarmaken" or "a selection of ennobled stars couldn't make it".
I remember Real Madrid once having the most expensive selection with all super star players, bound to become champion of Spain ... but they didn't. It wasn't a team.
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You are too kind RJ. The Dutch coach had introduced the 5-3-2 system, which was a very strange decision. The Dutch defence was chaotic in the first matches and they got away with a lucky win against Ukraine. Austria and North Macedonia allowed them to play and then there was some very nice football. Against the Tsjechs it became a mix between 5-3-2 and 4-3-3. Dreadful. Unlike England and Italy the Dutch coach failed to make a TEAM. Louis van Gaal (could be the next coach, once again) said "een veredeld stelletje sterren konden het niet waarmaken" or "a selection of ennobled stars couldn't make it".
I remember Real Madrid once having the most expensive selection with all super star players, bound to become champion of Spain ... but they didn't. It wasn't a team.
I have a good memory of Louis van Gaal. He introduced "Ballbesitzfußball" at Bayern Munich. Pep Guardiola and Hans Flick then built on that. Van Gaal is in the tradition of Johan Cruyff, who introduced "total football" at Barcelona. So Tiki Taka is a bit in the tradition of Dutch football.
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You are too kind RJ. The Dutch coach had introduced the 5-3-2 system, which was a very strange decision. The Dutch defence was chaotic in the first matches and they got away with a lucky win against Ukraine. Austria and North Macedonia allowed them to play and then there was some very nice football. Against the Tsjechs it became a mix between 5-3-2 and 4-3-3. Dreadful. Unlike England and Italy the Dutch coach failed to make a TEAM. Louis van Gaal (could be the next coach, once again) said "een veredeld stelletje sterren konden het niet waarmaken" or "a selection of ennobled stars couldn't make it".
I remember Real Madrid once having the most expensive selection with all super star players, bound to become champion of Spain ... but they didn't. It wasn't a team.
I have a good memory of Louis van Gaal. He introduced "Ballbesitzfußball" at Bayern Munich. Pep Guardiola and Hans Flick then built on that. Van Gaal is in the tradition of Johan Cruyff, who introduced "total football" at Barcelona. So Tiki Taka is a bit in the tradition of Dutch football.
You're right. Barcelona at its peak were the best in Cruijff's way of playing soccer. Pep and Hans were great fans of his. Van Gaal and Cruijff sort of didn't like eachother people wise, but soccer wise they were in line
We'll see if Louis takes the job and gets the team to the semi-finals in Qatar
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PS can somebody explain why the English players pulled the medal off a s soon as they received it?
Out of frustration I think.