I may be a nitwit here, but ever since ABKCO released the 1985 louzy CDs I think they did an even louzier job on Get Off Of My Cloud.
Where the original 60s vinyl recording had the jingle guitar pushed to the background, the 1985 CD version had the jingle guitar far to much on the foreground.
I get the impression that the FFO ( with a bit to much echo, I think) has the jingle guitar less dominant than in 1985, but the rhythm guitar is to far a the background. It can't be that difficult to get a proper balance between the two guitars. Something to think about for the 60st Anniversary greatest hits collection? Just kidding

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Seems like the Voice of Mick is a bit higher and det riff guitar has Got flanger on .

For years I wasn’t even aware of Keith’s riff playing throughout the track. Brian’s rhythm is really dominant is some of the available mixes.

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For years I wasn’t even aware of Keith’s riff playing throughout the track. Brian’s rhythm is really dominant is some of the available mixes.

If you have a chance to listen to the original 1965 vinyl, you will notice the difference. The 1985 ABKCO CD version is horrible imo.

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For years I wasn’t even aware of Keith’s riff playing throughout the track. Brian’s rhythm is really dominant is some of the available mixes.

If you have a chance to listen to the original 1965 vinyl, you will notice the difference. The 1985 ABKCO CD version is horrible imo.

I think the only version I have presently is the 2002 mix from the Singles Collection. I originally owned it on the 1985 Decembers Children and 40 Licks. I just recollect how dominant Brian’s rhythm is. I genuinely didn’t realise there’s a lead-riff playing throughout. It may have been a YouTube demonstration that first made me aware, actually. Unless I heard a stereo mix at some point.

In my option, only the MONO -Version is listenable!

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In my option, only the MONO -Version is listenable!

My "problem" is that I grew up with the original 1965 single/album vinyl version.
Any change "upsets me" (but not really )

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What on earth is FFO's?

edit: ohhh, it's Fully Finished Studio Outtakes



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I may be a nitwit here, but ever since ABKCO released the 1985 louzy CDs I think they did an even louzier job on Get Off Of My Cloud.
Where the original 60s vinyl recording had the jingle guitar pushed to the background, the 1985 CD version had the jingle guitar far to much on the foreground.
I get the impression that the FFO ( with a bit to much echo, I think) has the jingle guitar less dominant than in 1985, but the rhythm guitar is to far a the background. It can't be that difficult to get a proper balance between the two guitars. Something to think about for the 60st Anniversary greatest hits collection? Just kidding

whats a jingle guitar? You mean Jones 12 string?

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I may be a nitwit here, but ever since ABKCO released the 1985 louzy CDs I think they did an even louzier job on Get Off Of My Cloud.
Where the original 60s vinyl recording had the jingle guitar pushed to the background, the 1985 CD version had the jingle guitar far to much on the foreground.
I get the impression that the FFO ( with a bit to much echo, I think) has the jingle guitar less dominant than in 1985, but the rhythm guitar is to far a the background. It can't be that difficult to get a proper balance between the two guitars. Something to think about for the 60st Anniversary greatest hits collection? Just kidding

whats a jingle guitar? You mean Jones 12 string?

Jangling, perhaps?

It was that one guitar coming out of one speaker, and everything else coming of the other.

I'm sure it's better than the 85 London Hot Rocks mastered by MFSL which has the wide stereo version of Cloud, as well as Satisfaction and Mothers Little Helper. I haven't listened to it in a while but if I recall, Mick's vocals and Brian's guitar on one channel and rest of the band in the other.

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I may be a nitwit here, but ever since ABKCO released the 1985 louzy CDs I think they did an even louzier job on Get Off Of My Cloud.
Where the original 60s vinyl recording had the jingle guitar pushed to the background, the 1985 CD version had the jingle guitar far to much on the foreground.
I get the impression that the FFO ( with a bit to much echo, I think) has the jingle guitar less dominant than in 1985, but the rhythm guitar is to far a the background. It can't be that difficult to get a proper balance between the two guitars. Something to think about for the 60st Anniversary greatest hits collection? Just kidding

whats a jingle guitar? You mean Jones 12 string?

Jangling, perhaps?

I'm fine with jangling too, DP
Wasn't Dylan (and the Byrds) singing about "jingle jangle" once
Time flies, but I vagely remember that I read somewhere that the "horrible" () 1985 CD version was a modification of the original as to give more credit to Brian's "jangle". They went too far imo. There was even a rumour that it was on Keith' instigation, but I doubt that.

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I may be a nitwit here, but ever since ABKCO released the 1985 louzy CDs I think they did an even louzier job on Get Off Of My Cloud.
Where the original 60s vinyl recording had the jingle guitar pushed to the background, the 1985 CD version had the jingle guitar far to much on the foreground.
I get the impression that the FFO ( with a bit to much echo, I think) has the jingle guitar less dominant than in 1985, but the rhythm guitar is to far a the background. It can't be that difficult to get a proper balance between the two guitars. Something to think about for the 60st Anniversary greatest hits collection? Just kidding

whats a jingle guitar? You mean Jones 12 string?

Jangling, perhaps?

I'm fine with jangling too, DP
Wasn't Dylan (and the Byrds) singing about "jingle jangle" once
Time flies, but I vagely remember that I read somewhere that the "horrible" () 1985 CD version was a modification of the original as to give more credit to Brian's "jangle". They went too far imo. There was even a rumour that it was on Keith' instigation, but I doubt that.

Hehe, yeah a jingle might be jangling, too (just like McGuinn's guitar)

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For years I wasn’t even aware of Keith’s riff playing throughout the track. Brian’s rhythm is really dominant is some of the available mixes.

Keith is playing the rhythm.

This is Brian's 12 string guitar.

The original mono mix is superior for biff bang pow listening experience.

The wide stereo mix is handy for geeking out on the details.

Do you mean with original mono mix the CD version or the original vinyl single?

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Thanks for posting the isolated video, His Majesty.

It clearly is a 12-string. I hadn’t considered whether it was a 6 or 12-string, admittedly. As I said, it was a while before I was even aware of it! Why’s it mixed so low in mono, though? It’s a fine contribution from Brian

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Thanks for posting the isolated video, His Majesty.

It clearly is a 12-string. I hadn’t considered whether it was a 6 or 12-string, admittedly. As I said, it was a while before I was even aware of it! Why’s it mixed so low in mono, though? It’s a fine contribution from Brian

We can only guess, but the mono version was the real, dedicated mix, right? I would assume that Brian's licks were regarded as "spice" on top of the hard-driving rhythm guitar, which in many ways makes the song.

When unfolded, the mix made Brian's licks come alive, so to speak, and we could hear what he played better.

I prefer the mono mix, but I like both.

It's funny that - depending on which tour - Keith and Ronnie are switching on playing those licks in concert. Same with The Last Time. In 1999, Ronnie would play Brian's riff, whilst Keith did it in 2012/2013.

The guitar he probably used on the recording:

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Thanks for posting the isolated video, His Majesty.

It clearly is a 12-string. I hadn’t considered whether it was a 6 or 12-string, admittedly. As I said, it was a while before I was even aware of it! Why’s it mixed so low in mono, though? It’s a fine contribution from Brian

We can only guess, but the mono version was the real, dedicated mix, right? I would assume that Brian's licks were regarded as "spice" on top of the hard-driving rhythm guitar, which in many ways makes the song.

When unfolded, the mix made Brian's licks come alive, so to speak, and we could hear what he played better.

I prefer the mono mix, but I like both.

It's funny that - depending on which tour - Keith and Ronnie are switching on playing those licks in concert. Same with The Last Time. In 1999, Ronnie would play Brian's riff, whilst Keith did it in 2012/2013.

I would imagine it was. Unlike the Beatles, it seems the Stones didn’t have dedicated stereo mixes from the beginning. Love Me Do and P.S. I Love You aside, I think all other Beatles recordings were mixed in both mono and stereo.