Can anyone date this?

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which the poster says is from 1969.

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Captain Corella
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1969. it was an extra on the Gimme Shelter DVD some years back. I saw this clip on TV in Australia in the 70s

Date it? It screams MSG 1969 even louder than Keith's guitar.

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I’ve read Richards replaced Taylor’s rhythm guitar on the Berry tunes on Ya Yas. He probably wanted a more gnarly tone. My bet is if Taylor played with that more gnarly tone live, Richards would have yelled at him to turn it down!

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TravelinMan
I’ve read Richards replaced Taylor’s rhythm guitar on the Berry tunes on Ya Yas. He probably wanted a more gnarly tone. My bet is if Taylor played with that more gnarly tone live, Richards would have yelled at him to turn it down!

You hear Taylor's guitar in this version. A few modest licks and mostly rhythm.

I can see why Mick replaced the vocals here. Lacked energy.

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Erik_Snow
Date it? It screams MSG 1969 even louder than Keith's guitar.

Even louder than Mick's Scoop neck black t-shirt!

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terraplane
1969. it was an extra on the Gimme Shelter DVD some years back. I saw this clip on TV in Australia in the 70s

Yes, on the Criterion Collection version. Also includes MSG performances of Oh Carol and Prodigal Son.

I think Little Queenie and Carol are weak tracks. I would have put Satisfaction and I’m Free on the album instead .Compared to Bye Bye Johnny 1972 and Around and Around 1964

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terraplane
1969. it was an extra on the Gimme Shelter DVD some years back. I saw this clip on TV in Australia in the 70s

Yes, on the Criterion Collection version. Also includes MSG performances of Oh Carol and Prodigal Son.

If it's Oh Carol it must be super-rare

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I think Little Queenie and Carol are weak tracks. I would have put Satisfaction and I’m Free on the album instead .Compared to Bye Bye Johnny 1972 and Around and Around 1964

You're kidding me. THIS is the pure essence of what The Rolling Stones are all about. Close your eyes and just ... listen and suck it into your brain. BANG!


I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Sorry .It does nothing for me.Unlike Bye Bye Johnny from Ladies and Gentlemen 1972

Heck!!! .... but each to his own ...



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Erik_Snow
Date it? It screams MSG 1969 even louder than Keith's guitar.

Admittedly that was what I had thought, but the curtains behind Mick and the seemingly small stage made me have doubts.

I've never been to MSG, but have always thought of it as a large arena, and that sort of rules out curtains for a stage.

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Taylor1
I think Little Queenie and Carol are weak tracks. I would have put Satisfaction and I’m Free on the album instead .Compared to Bye Bye Johnny 1972 and Around and Around 1964

Well, you are right: Bye Bye Johnny from MSG definitely ranks right up there with Carol and Little Queenie. Could have added Let It Rock from the back of the 7" too.

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Taylor1
I think Little Queenie and Carol are weak tracks. I would have put Satisfaction and I’m Free on the album instead .Compared to Bye Bye Johnny 1972 and Around and Around 1964

Little Queenie as featured on this video (and Ya Yas) is an example of what the Stones do exceptionally well. Its their forte-where they excel and leave imitators in the dust. It is by no means a "weak" track. To even insinuate that is just ridiculous.



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The one track where they outBerryed Berry. Charlie alone gives a master class in dynamics.

Mixing, etc. Little Queenie.

God bless Bill Wyman

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God bless Bill Wyman

Exactly! One of my favorites of Bill’s performances.

It was a stroke of genius to slow down the tempo on both songs.

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Taylor1
I think Little Queenie and Carol are weak tracks. I would have put Satisfaction and I’m Free on the album instead .Compared to Bye Bye Johnny 1972 and Around and Around 1964

... Surprising..! How can you think that...?

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CaptainCorella
Can anyone date this?

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which the poster says is from 1969.

Charlie singing along "she´s too cute to be a minute over 17"
and playing 4/4 on the hihat

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I’ve read Richards replaced Taylor’s rhythm guitar on the Berry tunes on Ya Yas. He probably wanted a more gnarly tone. My bet is if Taylor played with that more gnarly tone live, Richards would have yelled at him to turn it down!

You hear Taylor's guitar in this version. A few modest licks and mostly rhythm.

Right. His part here serves the song. Taylor turned down his guitar volume and it’s not that crunchy, overdriven sound like the overdub. That’s probably why it was overdubbed.

Brilliant song!!! One of the best from the tour!!

Watching the movie clip: those two boys loved each other and worked together amazingly.

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Date it? It screams MSG 1969 even louder than Keith's guitar.

Admittedly that was what I had thought, but the curtains behind Mick and the seemingly small stage made me have doubts.

I've never been to MSG, but have always thought of it as a large arena, and that sort of rules out curtains for a stage.

It holds about 20175 I believe.



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Carol for the hell of it:

Oh Carol ..... What a glorious chug ....



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Carol for the hell of it:

If CAROL was filmed at MSG, then (my original query) it's most unlikely that LITTLE QUEENIE was also filmed at that venue.

The MSG stage definitely appears to be far far larger than the stage in the Little Queenie clip.

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Carol for the hell of it:

If CAROL was filmed at MSG, then (my original query) it's most unlikely that LITTLE QUEENIE was also filmed at that venue.

The MSG stage definitely appears to be far far larger than the stage in the Little Queenie clip.

Seems the same to me with the same camera angles, especially the cameraman in the crowd near the front. If you just watch the Gimme Shelter DVD, the stage isn't that big. I'm sure the Maysles brothers filmed all 3 MSG shows.