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jbwelda
I am surprised that any USA original vinyl release sounded better than the UK one. Almost never happens. Almost always the UK version sounded better, flatter, warmer bass, no upper end distortion and no warp on the disk. Guess this one is the exception to that rule. I always went out of my way to get the UK version of a vinyl LP in those days.
jb
But is there an American version of Out Of Our Heads UK? The US-version with that name is a different album, with many other good-sounding songs, as far as I know.
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ryanpow
I always thought it sounded great, esp. the mix on the title track. Sound-wise a step up from GHS, not as good as Black and Blue, perhaps their apex of mixing.
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TravelinMan
Lots of good points here, Dandy, Taylor, etc.
The thing is, they lost that great drum sound on this record. No Jimmy Miller, unless you count Short & Curlies which is one of the better songs sonically. It lacks everything else unfortunately. Fingerprint File sounds pretty good and was mixed by Glyn Johns.
Overall, the drums on this record sound anemic, even for the 70’s, which isn’t anywhere close to what people expect modern drums to sound like.
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GasLightStreet
Sounds fine to me. It is what it is. The Virgin reissue sounds great. There's no telling for why it sounds flat etc. It's just what they did.
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TravelinMan
Lots of good points here, Dandy, Taylor, etc.
The thing is, they lost that great drum sound on this record. No Jimmy Miller, unless you count Short & Curlies which is one of the better songs sonically. It lacks everything else unfortunately. Fingerprint File sounds pretty good and was mixed by Glyn Johns.
Overall, the drums on this record sound anemic, even for the 70’s, which isn’t anywhere close to what people expect modern drums to sound like.
I think the drums are good on this album, particularly on ATPTB and Dance Little Sister.
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kowalski
If you're after a clearer sound get an original Japanese pressing of the record.
The Japanese SHMCD with the flat transfer from the original tapes sounds great too.
Bob Ludwig remaster from the 90's adds some punch.
A lot of options actually...
IORR, what a great album. Mick Taylor shines on it. And the band plays very tight. Always been one of my favorite.
As far as I remember those LPs were made from archival DSD transfers. I.e. the source was the same 'digital' as for Japanese SHM-SACDs mentioned above.Quote
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kowalski
If you're after a clearer sound get an original Japanese pressing of the record.
The Japanese SHMCD with the flat transfer from the original tapes sounds great too.
Bob Ludwig remaster from the 90's adds some punch.
A lot of options actually...
IORR, what a great album. Mick Taylor shines on it. And the band plays very tight. Always been one of my favorite.
Hello,
Any opinions regarding the new LP’s Half Speed Remastered at Abbey Road, by Miles Showell?
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ironbelly
Are we talking vinyl or CDs?
Because with CDs there were 4 versions of mastering
1. Old CBS from 1986 mastered by Ted Jensen
2. Virgin from 1993 mastered by Bob Ludwi
3. UM from 2009 brickwalled by Stephen Marcussen
4. Japanese flat transfer from 2011
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Taylor1
The bass guitar other than Fingerprint File is the worst of any Stones album.
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Taylor1
It’s weak sounding and mixed way down
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Taylor1
Then why does Black n Blue sound so much better ?Why does a song from that era,Tops, sound better?
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GasLightStreet
Sounds fine to me. It is what it is. The Virgin reissue sounds great. There's no telling for why it sounds flat etc. It's just what they did.
Agree. The Virgin remasters rank among the best among the various releasesof their discography. That's very true for IORR or EOMS.
And you should always add that Virgin remaster is dirt cheap nowadays on the secondary market. Even Collector's Edition can be found reasonably priced on ebay. While for Japanese SHM-CDs (not even SHM-SACDs) you'll need to shell off some $40.Quote
kowalski
The Virgin remasters are probably the best choice if you want to listen to the Stones on CD. Bob Ludwig has managed to keep the original analog sound with a slight bump in the low end for the digital age listeners. At the same time they can sound rather "processed", like the ABKCO 2002 remasters of the 60's catalog. But still a very nicely done work.
The 2011 flat transfers are obviously closer to the original tapes but can sound a little anemic in comparison. They're great if you are after a more audiophile friendly sound.
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ironbellyAnd you should always add that Virgin remaster is dirt cheap nowadays on the secondary market. Even Collector's Edition can be found reasonably priced on ebay. While for Japanese SHM-CDs (not even SHM-SACDs) you'll need to shell off some $40.Quote
kowalski
The Virgin remasters are probably the best choice if you want to listen to the Stones on CD. Bob Ludwig has managed to keep the original analog sound with a slight bump in the low end for the digital age listeners. At the same time they can sound rather "processed", like the ABKCO 2002 remasters of the 60's catalog. But still a very nicely done work.
The 2011 flat transfers are obviously closer to the original tapes but can sound a little anemic in comparison. They're great if you are after a more audiophile friendly sound.