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FancyBluesMan
Just because Mick is remaining active and recording/putting out crap like 'Eazy Sleazy' doesn't immunize him from the criticism being hurled in his direction by those who find this latest 'effort' a bore. Would you be lavishing him with praise if he were to release a collection of children's songs while the Stones continue to remain dormant, simply because "he's almost 80 years old and won't be around forever"?
"Ooh, 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star', 'The Eencie Weencie Spider', 'London Bridge is Falling Down'. Hey Mick, thanks so much for making my day. It may not sound like the Stones, but I'm SO thankful you've given us something to listen to". Spare me.
I'm fully aware that Mick is free to do whatever he pleases at this stage of the game but I'm sorry, I want the genuine article...Keith's Open G riffs, Ronnie's fills, Charlie's metronomic drumming (sorry Daryl...you just don't move me anymore)...and will accept nothing less. No more solo stuff, no more collaborations, no more 'I'm bored, trapped in my villa and this is the best I can offer you'. Stop dangling the carrot and get back to doing what you do best!
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Swayed1967
Never thought I’d say this but what an absolute pleasure it is to hear Jagger sing like Johnny Rotten. Would love to hear the Stones cover the punk classics.
What a great idea. That should be their next album. Imagine them doing Neat Neat Neat by the Damned, Bodies by the Pistols and Teenage Lobotomy by the Ramones. Who wouldn't want to hear that? They could even tour it, 100 nights at the 100 Club anyone?
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Swayed1967
Never thought I’d say this but what an absolute pleasure it is to hear Jagger sing like Johnny Rotten. Would love to hear the Stones cover the punk classics.
What a great idea. That should be their next album. Imagine them doing Neat Neat Neat by the Damned, Bodies by the Pistols and Teenage Lobotomy by the Ramones. Who wouldn't want to hear that? They could even tour it, 100 nights at the 100 Club anyone?
Sounds more like a Mick solo project as I doubt the Stones as a band would ever want to go down that route. A song or two on Some Girls might have been slightly influenced by the punk vibe, but they were far from it as far as actually sounding like punk rock. In this case, seems clear to many where Mick lifted the idea, and he does so with no shame or apologies which in a sense if a bit of a punk attitude in itself.
So next, maybe Mick could do a full on punk covers album that would actually give credit to the tunes he's releasing...thinking the Dead Kennedys' Lets Kill the Landlord...or Police Truck.
And maybe Black Flag's Rise Above or even Nervous Breakdown (which would sort of be close to home). All deal with real life issues and filled with social commentary, and right up his current wheelhouse.
On second thought, scratch that idea completely - bad idea. Glad he's released something "new" and staying busy, but just hoping that at 77 yrs. old he was able to get all this punky angst out of his system for a while.
It's not the worst thing in the world as some here have claimed, and it's far better than Getta Grip/England Lost - no real harm, but realistically it's sort of a novelty song that will be forgotten by most within a couple of weeks.
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Hairball
Sounds more like a Mick solo project as I doubt the Stones as a band would ever want to go down that route. A song or two on Some Girls might have been slightly influenced by the punk vibe, but they were far from it as far as actually sounding like punk rock. In this case, seems clear to many where Mick lifted the idea, and he does so with no shame or apologies which in a sense if a bit of a punk attitude in itself.
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DandelionPowderman
The chorus on Eazy, Sleazy is more melodic, and I really, really like the punk-ish, almost Michael Monroe-esque, sentences/phrases in the verses (..."lobotomising me"). Suits Mick well, like we heard on the Some Girls and Emotional Rescue-albums.
Good stuff
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Hairball
Sounds more like a Mick solo project as I doubt the Stones as a band would ever want to go down that route. A song or two on Some Girls might have been slightly influenced by the punk vibe, but they were far from it as far as actually sounding like punk rock. In this case, seems clear to many where Mick lifted the idea, and he does so with no shame or apologies which in a sense if a bit of a punk attitude in itself.
At least one Some Girls video was very punk inspired. --->>> "Respectable" --->>> [www.youtube.com]
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FancyBluesMan
I'm fully aware that Mick is free to do whatever he pleases at this stage of the game but I'm sorry, I want the genuine article...Keith's Open G riffs, Ronnie's fills, Charlie's metronomic drumming (sorry Daryl...you just don't move me anymore)...and will accept nothing less.
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dmay
The Stones cover of Just My Imagination came my way via the Walkman and I thought, "My god, how hard they could/can play." It brought to mind this song with Grohl and how much energy is in it. Still don't like it, but the energy is undeniable. It made me think of how the Stones as a collective could/should innervate their sound, throw caution to the wind, rather than make another album based on tried and true sounds and formulas. At this point in time what in the hell do they have to lose? Just because you're older doesn't mean you can't rock your as* off.
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FancyBluesMan
Just because Mick is remaining active and recording/putting out crap like 'Eazy Sleazy' doesn't immunize him from the criticism being hurled in his direction by those who find this latest 'effort' a bore. Would you be lavishing him with praise if he were to release a collection of children's songs while the Stones continue to remain dormant, simply because "he's almost 80 years old and won't be around forever"?
"Ooh, 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star', 'The Eencie Weencie Spider', 'London Bridge is Falling Down'. Hey Mick, thanks so much for making my day. It may not sound like the Stones, but I'm SO thankful you've given us something to listen to". Spare me.
I'm fully aware that Mick is free to do whatever he pleases at this stage of the game but I'm sorry, I want the genuine article...Keith's Open G riffs, Ronnie's fills, Charlie's metronomic drumming (sorry Daryl...you just don't move me anymore)...and will accept nothing less. No more solo stuff, no more collaborations, no more 'I'm bored, trapped in my villa and this is the best I can offer you'. Stop dangling the carrot and get back to doing what you do best!
Perfectly valid opinion as long as this "accept no substitute"-stance doesn't stop you from actually listening to the music in question.
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DandelionPowderman
Wouldn't surprise me if this track turns up as the only track on an expensive vinyl release soon, though.
With Gotta Get A Grip / England Lost in mind, especially the horrific price they charged for it, anything else will baffle me.
Yes, it's Mick we're talking about
With that said, I'll buy it and play it loud, like always, hehe.
Btw, I've listened a lot to this track, and I like it. I think there's more to this tune than that of Doom And Gloom. It stands on its own, without flashy production techniques. Doom And Gloom needed the Bhasker-remix to make it swing, imo.
The chorus on Eazy, Sleazy is more melodic, and I really, really like the punk-ish, almost Michael Monroe-esque, sentences/phrases in the verses (..."lobotomising me"). Suits Mick well, like we heard on the Some Girls and Emotional Rescue-albums.
Good stuff
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DandelionPowderman
The chorus on Eazy, Sleazy is more melodic, and I really, really like the punk-ish, almost Michael Monroe-esque, sentences/phrases in the verses (..."lobotomising me"). Suits Mick well, like we heard on the Some Girls and Emotional Rescue-albums.
Good stuff
Haha, a good one! There was something very familiar to me - especially in that "Lobotomizing me" part - that I couldn't quite locate. But could it be accidental, both channeling a bit Johnny Rotten there?
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Bob Lefsetz's take:
Somewhere Keith Richards is smiling, if not outright laughing
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bye bye johnny
Bob Lefsetz's take:
Somewhere Keith Richards is smiling, if not outright laughing
You know what Keith Richards is not doing?
Releasing new music.
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bye bye johnny
Bob Lefsetz's take:
Easy Sleazy
[www.youtube.com]
Somewhere Keith Richards is smiling, if not outright laughing. Without him, Mick Jagger appears completely out of touch with no soul. Mick may be the front man, but who is behind him turns out to be the essence of his success.
This is not the first time Mick has tried to go solo. And he always fails, even with the biggest push behind him. His Columbia albums of yore were too slick, anything but down and dirty, as if made by a posh guy who went to the London School of Economics… Whew, that’s what he did, right? Is that who he is? Has he been hanging with the rich and famous so long that he has lost his perspective?
Even worse is Dave Grohl. This track reveals the flaws of Mr. Rock Music up front and center… Dynamics? THERE ARE NONE! So, it’s loud and in your face, but it’s easy to reject, easy not to pay attention, furthermore, it’s all so SAFE! Rock and roll used to be dangerous, but Dave Grohl is the guy you want to bring home to mom, explain that to me please.
Of course this track has no traction, not even a million plays on YouTube as I write this, the fact that he’s a Stone is irrelevant in a marketplace where status and hype are secondary, if relevant at all, to the music itself. The penumbra has never meant less, can you deliver the goods?
Where has Mick been camping all these days? We’re looking for something gritty, insightful, that captures our feelings. Instead we’ve got a rich guy playing the guitar expressing emotions…not at all. Yes, the lyrics say something, but the delivery is all one note.
As for the lyrics… He almost appears to be pulling a Van Morrison, anti-lockdown. But upon further reflection it appears… Well, it’s not exactly clear what he is saying, other than lockdown is ending. But I’d rather dance in the streets to Martha and the Vandellas than this crap.
And it’s not the 1960s anymore, where I’m forced to listen to what I don’t like until maybe I do, like it that is. It’s painful to make it all the way through “Easy Sleazy,” I only did because I wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something, so that I could write this screed with full authority, but you aren’t missing anything if you check out early.
And “sleazy”? That’s not a word I think of when I contemplate the covid lockdown, nor emergence from it. Sleazy is late night in the dark high on drugs, it’s never sleazy with the bright lights on, and this track is nothing if not bright.
Come on, listen to the intro to “Gimmie Shelter”… “Easy Sleazy” is just the opposite, but one can argue today is darker than yesterday, now is not the time to be mindless.
As for singing about what is happening now… It works with gravitas, just ask Neil Young, with “Ohio,” never mind Marvin Gaye with “What’s Going On.” As for more recent numbers capturing the zeitgeist…it’s hard to find them, at least successful ones. We’re told by the successful to write a song with a score of people and dress well so you can tell the audience what they’re missing out on, so they can envy you, when the truth is they should run in the opposite direction. There’s no truth-telling like there was with N.W.A. and Ice-T and the seers of yore. I mean the cops just killed somebody in Minnesota, shouldn’t the song be about that instead of partying?
Once upon a time Mick Jagger captured the zeitgeist, now it’s nowhere to be found in his life or his lexicon, he’s lost touch. Now is when you make a statement, this track no different from George Bush telling everybody after 9/11 to go out and shop, to keep the economy humming, the real issues? Oh, of course “Easy Sleazy” goes deeper than that, but its message is so confusing, there’s so much irony, that it goes straight over the heads of those who do listen, and it’s not like the focus is on the lyrics anyway, they’re overwhelmed by the buzzing guitar sound.
A sound Keith Richards never employed.
Keith Richard was the anti-gunslinger, the anti-guitar hero. Forget playing a lot of notes in a small period of time, he frequently played no notes at all! It was about chords, sound, closer to the Edge than Yngwie Malmsteen.
You see most of creativity, most of excellence, happens between the ears. That’s the essence of rock and roll, that’s the essence of the Ramones, you don’t need to be highly skilled to get your message down, to make a great record, but you certainly have to think about it. It’s about channeling God, capturing lightning in a bottle, if you do it right the zeitgeist is right there in the grooves. If you find the zeitgeist in “Easy Sleazy” you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones.
Come on, compare Nirvana with Foo Fighters, Cobain with Grohl. And this is less of a put-down of Grohl than an exaltation of Cobain. Anybody can go through the motions, but to ascend to the pantheon you need a certain vision, a certain attitude, a willingness to push buttons and test limits…can you say “John Lennon”?
You can also say “Keith Richards.”
Keith has led anything but a perfect life. Better to watch the movie than live it. But he’s never wavered from his focus on creating the best music, with the essence of life, attitude and truth involved. Has he always succeeded? No, but he’s never failed on the level of Mick Jagger.
Mick needs Keith’s pull to keep him in line, to focus him, to bring him down to earth. Just like Bono needs the Edge. It’s Edge’s guitarwork that anchors U2, not Bono’s lyrics, they’re just the cherry on top. Bono goes out and tries to save the world, but he’d have no voice if it weren’t for the Edge, who’s got almost no voice at all.
Mick thinks being a rock star is being famous. Riding the crest of the wave, being held up by the people. But if he did a solo show he wouldn’t be able to crowdsurf, no one would hold him up! Especially the ancient who are only going on name value.
“Easy Sleazy” is drivel. And the best thing about today is drivel can be completely ignored, can fall out of sight nearly instantly. Which this will do.
Mick… Check with Keith, check with someone with their feet truly on the ground before you take action, make another misstep.
As for Mr. Grohl… So you played with a Stone, who cares? At this point we’ve all had brushes with greatness, this song is barely better than a selfie. Now it’s about the work.
And you’ve got to work harder.
[lefsetz.com]
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bye bye johnny
Bob Lefsetz's take:
Easy Sleazy
[www.youtube.com]
Somewhere Keith Richards is smiling, if not outright laughing. Without him, Mick Jagger appears completely out of touch with no soul. Mick may be the front man, but who is behind him turns out to be the essence of his success.
This is not the first time Mick has tried to go solo. And he always fails, even with the biggest push behind him. His Columbia albums of yore were too slick, anything but down and dirty, as if made by a posh guy who went to the London School of Economics… Whew, that’s what he did, right? Is that who he is? Has he been hanging with the rich and famous so long that he has lost his perspective?
Even worse is Dave Grohl. This track reveals the flaws of Mr. Rock Music up front and center… Dynamics? THERE ARE NONE! So, it’s loud and in your face, but it’s easy to reject, easy not to pay attention, furthermore, it’s all so SAFE! Rock and roll used to be dangerous, but Dave Grohl is the guy you want to bring home to mom, explain that to me please.
Of course this track has no traction, not even a million plays on YouTube as I write this, the fact that he’s a Stone is irrelevant in a marketplace where status and hype are secondary, if relevant at all, to the music itself. The penumbra has never meant less, can you deliver the goods?
Where has Mick been camping all these days? We’re looking for something gritty, insightful, that captures our feelings. Instead we’ve got a rich guy playing the guitar expressing emotions…not at all. Yes, the lyrics say something, but the delivery is all one note.
As for the lyrics… He almost appears to be pulling a Van Morrison, anti-lockdown. But upon further reflection it appears… Well, it’s not exactly clear what he is saying, other than lockdown is ending. But I’d rather dance in the streets to Martha and the Vandellas than this crap.
And it’s not the 1960s anymore, where I’m forced to listen to what I don’t like until maybe I do, like it that is. It’s painful to make it all the way through “Easy Sleazy,” I only did because I wanted to make sure I didn’t miss something, so that I could write this screed with full authority, but you aren’t missing anything if you check out early.
And “sleazy”? That’s not a word I think of when I contemplate the covid lockdown, nor emergence from it. Sleazy is late night in the dark high on drugs, it’s never sleazy with the bright lights on, and this track is nothing if not bright.
Come on, listen to the intro to “Gimmie Shelter”… “Easy Sleazy” is just the opposite, but one can argue today is darker than yesterday, now is not the time to be mindless.
As for singing about what is happening now… It works with gravitas, just ask Neil Young, with “Ohio,” never mind Marvin Gaye with “What’s Going On.” As for more recent numbers capturing the zeitgeist…it’s hard to find them, at least successful ones. We’re told by the successful to write a song with a score of people and dress well so you can tell the audience what they’re missing out on, so they can envy you, when the truth is they should run in the opposite direction. There’s no truth-telling like there was with N.W.A. and Ice-T and the seers of yore. I mean the cops just killed somebody in Minnesota, shouldn’t the song be about that instead of partying?
Once upon a time Mick Jagger captured the zeitgeist, now it’s nowhere to be found in his life or his lexicon, he’s lost touch. Now is when you make a statement, this track no different from George Bush telling everybody after 9/11 to go out and shop, to keep the economy humming, the real issues? Oh, of course “Easy Sleazy” goes deeper than that, but its message is so confusing, there’s so much irony, that it goes straight over the heads of those who do listen, and it’s not like the focus is on the lyrics anyway, they’re overwhelmed by the buzzing guitar sound.
A sound Keith Richards never employed.
Keith Richard was the anti-gunslinger, the anti-guitar hero. Forget playing a lot of notes in a small period of time, he frequently played no notes at all! It was about chords, sound, closer to the Edge than Yngwie Malmsteen.
You see most of creativity, most of excellence, happens between the ears. That’s the essence of rock and roll, that’s the essence of the Ramones, you don’t need to be highly skilled to get your message down, to make a great record, but you certainly have to think about it. It’s about channeling God, capturing lightning in a bottle, if you do it right the zeitgeist is right there in the grooves. If you find the zeitgeist in “Easy Sleazy” you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones.
Come on, compare Nirvana with Foo Fighters, Cobain with Grohl. And this is less of a put-down of Grohl than an exaltation of Cobain. Anybody can go through the motions, but to ascend to the pantheon you need a certain vision, a certain attitude, a willingness to push buttons and test limits…can you say “John Lennon”?
You can also say “Keith Richards.”
Keith has led anything but a perfect life. Better to watch the movie than live it. But he’s never wavered from his focus on creating the best music, with the essence of life, attitude and truth involved. Has he always succeeded? No, but he’s never failed on the level of Mick Jagger.
Mick needs Keith’s pull to keep him in line, to focus him, to bring him down to earth. Just like Bono needs the Edge. It’s Edge’s guitarwork that anchors U2, not Bono’s lyrics, they’re just the cherry on top. Bono goes out and tries to save the world, but he’d have no voice if it weren’t for the Edge, who’s got almost no voice at all.
Mick thinks being a rock star is being famous. Riding the crest of the wave, being held up by the people. But if he did a solo show he wouldn’t be able to crowdsurf, no one would hold him up! Especially the ancient who are only going on name value.
“Easy Sleazy” is drivel. And the best thing about today is drivel can be completely ignored, can fall out of sight nearly instantly. Which this will do.
Mick… Check with Keith, check with someone with their feet truly on the ground before you take action, make another misstep.
As for Mr. Grohl… So you played with a Stone, who cares? At this point we’ve all had brushes with greatness, this song is barely better than a selfie. Now it’s about the work.
And you’ve got to work harder.
[lefsetz.com]