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More insipid social commentary from Mick. No emotional power. Gimme Crosseyed Heart.

Yeah...if you want to fall asleep.

I've been wondering why Grohl (apparently) got a co-writing credit since Mick sent him the demo and told him to add his parts but I think you can hear his touch in the chorus, the voicing is pretty typical of his songs and it generally works pretty well, at least to these ears ;-)

"God Gave Me Everything" was mentioned and the music for that was mostly Kravitz as he had the demo ready for Mick.

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More insipid social commentary from Mick. No emotional power. Gimme Crosseyed Heart.

...to sleep!

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I read through the last two hours worth of YouTube comments, and I'd say it's about 10 to 1 in favor of the song. People seem to really dig it.

...and they're right!!

Seems to be about the same here.. similar percentage to the resident Mick haters.

Mick states he wanted to put it out really quick to capture the moment.. with live drums etc., by someone used to working remotely during the pandemic, which clearly leaves Charlie and Keith out. Yet his word is never good enough for them (what part of Keith and Charlie don't do virtual/tech don't they get?)
Only reason we got LIAGT was they had all started on it, Mick finished it.

When I started the thread after a listen this morning, I swear I could have given some of their responses verbatim. So boring and predictable the ole negative codgers have gotten.
Laughable really.. right down to what Keith "thinks" again. Delusional.



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"The Grohling Stones"



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It smells like... "LIAR"... Sex Pistols...







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Not sure why cross eyed heart gets such a bad rap. Love overdue, heartstopper, amnesia and trouble are all good songs in my opinion. Sure, there are some songs that lag a bit but overall I like it.

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It smells like... "LIAR"... Sex Pistols...

Not the first one to mention it, so I gave it a quick listen (as long as I could)
Didn't hear it.. sounds a bit punk.. so I guess that's enough for some.

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Great!

First impression:


Pure Jagger.

BUT

At the same time it is hard to find stones sound/flavor/scent in it.


This is the first time that it happens to me with a Jagger's song.

Why does it need to have a Stones sound/flavor/scent in it?

Mick's guitaring should be the obvious sound/flavor/scent.

Haha, if not his guitar, just the moment he opens his mouth to sing a song he has written the result is doomed to sound Rolling Stonesy... I think Jagger's 'dilemma' is that no matter if he even tries to escape typical Rolling Stones sound boundaries, and no matter with whom he plays, he can't help to sound nothing but a Rolling Stone and that dominates the outcome (or, as it sometiems happen, is in a conflict with the rest)... like Keith, he breathes and embodies Rolling Stones.

That said, I think it is nice to hear sometimes Mick playing with someone else than Keith and the rest of his gang. Just for a change. I think the Grohl/Jagger colloboration works nicely here - the more traditional hard rock style, without the famous 'roll' element, fits well here. The stonesian and foofighterian worlds - being apart by a couple of generations of rock music - meet rather naturally there - surprisingly well me thinks.

Funny to think of that punk element there - and the different ways these two guys approach it. For Grohl I guess 'punk rock' was something he basically had learned from school books, as an elementary and inspirational material in order to create a new rock genre, grunge. For Mick punk was a genre that kicked his already legendary, old balls, but which forced him - inspirationally - to adapt to its challenge. And here those approaches meet, punk being like a missing link between those two parties...

There is something beautiful there, both musically and historically, me thinks. Thanks Mick, thanks Dave. Well done.

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Cant be arsed trawling through the thread to see if anyone else has picked up on it being quite similar to 'Liar' by the Sex Pistols, but I think its quite noticeable

video: [www.youtube.com]

Hence this new tune sounding a bit contrived and faux punk...a diluted version of the real deal. There's possibly even some copyright infringement.
And considering the much edgier Liar dates all the way back to '77, makes this new tune sound a bit redundant and quite dated.

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Vulture and the AV Club both hate it! lol

it rocks and it's fun , do we need more !

HMN

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Great!

First impression:


Pure Jagger.

BUT

At the same time it is hard to find stones sound/flavor/scent in it.


This is the first time that it happens to me with a Jagger's song.

Why does it need to have a Stones sound/flavor/scent in it?

Mick's guitaring should be the obvious sound/flavor/scent.

Haha, if not his guitar, just the moment he opens his mouth to sing a song he has written the result is doomed to sound Rolling Stonesy... I think Jagger's 'dilemma' is that no matter if he even tries to escape typical Rolling Stones sound boundaries, and no matter with whom he plays, he can't help to sound nothing but a Rolling Stone and that dominates the outcome (or, as it sometiems happen, is in a conflict with the rest)... like Keith, he breathes and embodies Rolling Stones.

That said, I think it is nice to hear sometimes Mick playing with someone else than Keith and the rest of his gang. Just for a change. I think the Grohl/Jagger colloboration works nicely here - the more traditional hard rock style, without the famous 'roll' element, fits well here. The stonesian and foofighterian worlds - being apart by a couple of generations of rock music - meet rather naturally there - surprisingly well me thinks.

Funny to think of that punk element there - and the different ways these two guys approach it. For Grohl I guess 'punk rock' was something he basically had learned from school books, as an elementary and inspirational material in order to create a new rock genre, grunge. For Mick punk was a genre that kicked his already legendary, old balls, but which forced him - inspirationally - to adapt to its challenge. And here those approaches meet, punk being like a missing link between those two parties...

There is something beautiful there, me thinks. Thanks Mick, thanks Dave. Well done.

- Doxa

LOL this is about as close to hard rock that Mick will have ever dealt with. The only way he could actually truly do that would be to sing a song with AC/DC or The Cult. I'm sure there are others. As in full out hard rock. This song has its moments where it eases off. The punk thing, it certainly has the energy of punk but it's not really punk, is it, it's just kickin'. Mick's delivery gives it a bit of a punkishness to it for certain. No matter what I dig it.

Respectable was nothing more than sped up Chuck Berry with a bit of a punk attitude, which was probably the only thing on the album that really had that. There was more punk in Summer Romance and Where The Boys Go than all of SOME GIRLS.

Pure Jagger, great song.

Mick Jagger Has Some Thoughts on the Pandemic, Anti-Vaxxers, and Conspiracy Theories

The Rolling Stones frontman opens up about his new song with Dave Grohl “Eazy Sleazy,” Trump “winging” the pandemic, and the “light at the end of the tunnel”

By Jason Newman
April 13,2021

Mick Jagger was sitting at home last month monitoring the coronavirus pandemic when he was struck with an idea for a new song. He was ruminating over the past year on both a personal and global level, noting that while the world remains gripped by the pandemic, a return to pre-pandemic life is inching forward. The result: “Eazy Sleazy,” a one-off track with Dave Grohl that notes the tragedies, absurdities, conspiracy theories, and hopefulness Jagger’s observed over the past year.

“Shooting the vaccine/Bill Gates is in my bloodstream/It’s mind control,” Jagger sings on the track in a verse he calls “a piss-take on conspiracy theories.” “The Earth is flat and cold/It’s never warming up/The arctics turned to slush/The second coming’s late/There’s aliens in the deep state.” Elsewhere, though, the Rolling Stones frontman exudes optimism for another Roaring Twenties. “Everything’s gonna get really freaky,” Jagger sings. “It’s gonna be a garden of earthly delights.”

After writing the music for the muscular, melodic song, Jagger sent the demo off to Grohl, who he says began working on it the next day. “It’s hard to put into words what recording this song with Sir Mick means to me,” Grohl tells Rolling Stone. “It’s beyond a dream come true.” The duo sent parts to each other back and forth over the past month, with Jagger on vocals and guitar and Grohl handling guitar, drums, and bass.

Produced by Jagger’s longtime musical collaborator Matt Clifford, the song is a more encouraging version of “England Lost” and “Gotta Get a Grip,” two politically charged tracks Jagger also released as one-offs in 2017. Jagger (who, incidentally, is fully vaccinated) hopped on the phone to discuss “Eazy Sleazy,” anti-vaxxers, and the difference between the Trump and Biden administrations.

How did the song came together?
I wrote the lyrics really quickly: Just the pandemic and hopefully coming out of the pandemic; the-light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel chorus. It sounded really good and I thought, “You gotta put it out now because it’s not gonna be any good in three or six months.” I said, “I’d love to do it with someone really great and is working from home.” I knew Dave and [Foo Fighters] just put out an album so I knew he got that out of the way. I phoned Dave up and said, “Dave, would you be interested?” He said [puts on American accent], “Yeah, I’m really bored!” “You just put an album out.” “I’m really bored! I want to do it. I want to work!” I said, “Fine, I’ll send you the song.” It was all done quite quickly. Dave likes it ’cause it rocks hard. I like to rock hard, too, so it feels good in that way.

What spurred you to initially write the song? Was there one particular event you saw or was it the general feeling over the past year?
I wrote most of the music first with some of the lyrics and then I just went and filled in the blanks. But yeah, it’s a reflection on the last year; the physical and mental strains put on society. The whole year, we’ve been doing this and going through different emotions through it and having false starts and stops and openings and closings. [Laughs] End of last summer, everything seemed to be going well and people were out and about and great and then, especially in Europe, everything’s shut down again and you haven’t had any kind of social interaction. It’s a long time for people to have to endure that. [Also] the deep psychological ramifications of it on people and children not going to school and not socializing. We don’t know what they’re really going to be [long-term].

What about you personally? What’s been your overarching feeling and mental state throughout the pandemic?
Just pretty much rolling with the punches. The first thing was it was all going to be over in a few weeks and then the realization [came] that that [would be] pretty quickly dampened. And then you realize that you’re in for the long haul, so you say, “I see what’s going to happen here: I’m really not going to be able to do this.” [It went from] “Maybe it’ll just be inconvenient” to “All hell broke loose.” Then you’re feeling bad about so much death stalking the world. And of course, you don’t want to be included as one of those statistics either, so you want to keep safe.

People are really suffering in some places and don’t have the advantages that we have. So you went up and down and you had to be adaptable. Obviously, I’m luckier than most. I’ve never spent so long in the country. I always had somewhere I could go outside. The idea of being locked up in an urban apartment without being able to go out — which a lot of my friends were — must have been really awful. You miss seeing people; you miss conversation; you miss interaction; you miss playing music with people. All of that was difficult. But I can’t say I had a hard time. It wasn’t what I wanted, but I was able to deal with it because I was lucky enough to be able to have these nice places to hole up in. But not everyone does.

The second verse, where you mention TikTok dances, Zoom meetings, cooking, and copious amounts of eating, drinking and cleaning, seems to both reflect what everyone’s been doing in lockdown and also make fun of it.
The first verse is about how the beginning was horrible and you couldn’t believe people were dying. It was shocking. The people in government were all talking rubbish and would change their minds every five minutes. In England, it was quite a mess and under the Trump administration, he said all kinds of nonsense. Do you remember all these things that you had to get your head around? The graphs and the numbers. Then we got to the thing where we’re living in it, so now we’ve got invitations to see new movies virtually: virtual art galleries, virtual movie premieres, virtual concerts.

And then the more experiences of the kind of general long lockdown; you see a pretty girl, but you can’t take any chances before the vaccine. And then all the silly things that you could try and do to pass the time because you feel you got to “better yourself.” Everyone tried to do something, didn’t they? Cooking and dancing and learning another language badly.

Did you better yourself at all during the pandemic?
Not really, to be honest. No. It’d be so stupid if I said, [puts on sarcastic voice] “Oh yes. I did say that I bettered myself. It was an introspective time for me.” It’s a piss-take out of all these things; I mean, you try and learn another language and all this.

When “England Lost” and “Gotta Get a Grip” came out in 2017, you talked about the “anxiety [and] unknowability of the changing political situation” and added: “We obviously have a lot of problems. So am I politically optimistic? … No.” Have you gotten more or less optimistic since then?
In the U.S., there seems to be some people who want to make things right and there is a huge opportunity, I suppose, to come out of the pandemic and realize what’s got to be done. I don’t think the last administration, you really felt that. They were just like going from one week to the next not knowing what to do. There were no plans for anything. And I think at least with this administration, there’s longterm goals and things that have to be fixed. They’re not all going to work, but at least people are trying. I’m much more optimistic about the U.S. than I was this time last year.

Right. You were clear in recent years how you were hardly a fan of Trump.
Nooo! I wasn’t a fan. [Voice rising] And I just think he just winged everything. He was just winging it. And you can’t [wing] the pandemic. That’s not what you have to do. Trump at least went and bet on all these vaccines, which was a good thing. And that was a lot of money, and it was a good bet. And the government stepped up in both [the U.S. and U.K.] in a lot of ways. The difference was the U.K., at the beginning, had a rollout, which was much better than the U.S. The U.S. rollout was just non-existent in the beginning until the Biden administration came. But of course, we’ve got so many other problems that the economy in both these countries is pretty badly hit. That’s a big hole to get out of.

Why did you decide to write about conspiracy theories?
It just seems to be that even people you know that are relatively sensible about a lot of things have one thing that they just don’t kind of get. I have several friends and relations and they go off on these things that just doesn’t… They’re just irrational. Of course, there’s no point in speaking to people about it. They don’t get it. They got what they believe in and they believe in that. And it doesn’t matter what you say, they’re gonna believe in it. And rational thought doesn’t work.

Even a country like France that prided themselves in the 18th Century on rationality is the most anti-vaccine country in Western democracy. It’s not as if [vaccines] are a new thing. When I was a child, which was a really long time ago, people would die from polio. They would just not be there the next day. And that’s been eradicated through vaccines. These poor children were either dead or crippled, and I had lots of friends like that. Would you rather have a vaccine if you had a child or would you rather their legs not work? You can’t argue with these people. So that’s how I got to the conspiracy theories; through the anti-vaxxers. Even I didn’t mention it in that verse; I probably should’ve though [since] I just went off on it. [Laughs]

Can we go back a little? You said you have “friends and relations” who were talking about conspiracy theories with you?
Oh yeah, I spoke to anti-vaxxers, yeah.

You did?
Yeah. But you can’t…

How does that even happen though? Under what circumstances does Mick Jagger talk to anti-vaxxers? Are you replying on Facebook?
No, no, just on the phone. It’s just saying to people, “When are you getting your vaccine?” Just passing the time of day. “Oh, I’m not getting it.” “OK. Why not? Are you in the queue?” “Oh no, because I don’t agree with it.” I started to realize that there really were quite a few people like that. I have a few of those. I think in this case though — a lot of people at the beginning of this kind of thing — maybe even I wouldn’t want to be the [first] to take it. After a while, some people maybe change their minds on this. But all these other ones like, “Trump won the election” and all these things, I didn’t bother putting them in [the song].

The song’s verses depict dismal situations, yet the chorus remains optimistic.
Each country’s different, but I see the amount of vaccines [increasing] and having to go through all these lockdowns and changing our minds and stop-and-start. But there seems to be, now, a light at the end of the tunnel in a lot of countries. I could see that light, so I thought I’d write a song about all the things that you’ve experienced in lockdown and now hopefully this is going to be the beginning of a bit more freedom.

[www.rollingstone.com]



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I'm surprised about the release and I like it.
It has a certain punch...it's rocking...good stuff.

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Vulture and the AV Club both hate it! lol

Just looked up the AV Club and yes they give it a pretty bad review:

“...Mick Jagger and Dave Grohl (they’re friends, apparently) collaborated on a song, “Eazy Sleazy,” about how tough it’s been to sit through quarantine—
never mind that they’re both super rich guys who managed to stay healthy throughout the whole thing. "Eazy Sleazy” sounds like a fake Rolling Stones track;
the whole thing feels like an SNL parody of a Stones song that had to be cut for time. But hey, at least they’re having fun".

The review goes on to ridicule some of the lyrics. > Grohl Jagger

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And then there's the Vulture review...while rightfully giving praise to Living in a Ghost Town, the reviewer sums this new tune up with the just title of the review itself:
"Just How Bad Are the Lyrics to Mick Jagger and Dave Grohl’s ‘Eazy Sleazy’"?, ...but he then goes on a bit too long mockingly dissecting almost every single line: > Grohl Jagger

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I find the song quite OK, way better than England Lost and what-was-the-name-of-the-hitting-song. Doesn't sound like stolen from Liar to me, just a genre similarity, I'd say. Some people above said it's reminiscent of SG Stones and that's the impression I had too. Of course the Stones could have also played that. In fact, I had preferred a Keith/Ronnie guitar duel in the solo section.
No idea of course if Mick first asked the other Stones if they would join him on that one. Maybe some interviewer asks Mick one day. I guess Charlie and Keith are not that much tech-interestesd and working online with them on the song may have been difficult and at any rate time-consuming. If Mick wanted someone who could do what was required and do it in less than a year, Dave Grohl was certainly a good person to choose.

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And considering the much edgier Liar dates all the way back to '77, makes this new tune sound a bit redundant and quite dated.

My grumpy old grandma could have said that too...

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Mick Jagger Has Some Thoughts on the Pandemic, Anti-Vaxxers, and Conspiracy Theories

[www.rollingstone.com]

Glad to know Mick has been vaccinated, especially at his age and given his previous health issues.
And I'm assuming (or hoping) Keith, Charlie, and Ronnie have done so as well - next thing you know they can all get back in the studio together as a band.

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And considering the much edgier Liar dates all the way back to '77, makes this new tune sound a bit redundant and quite dated.

My grumpy old grandma could have said that too...

Funny - was she also a fan of the Sex Pistols?

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Oh my golly gosh
What a load of tosh
My name is Michael Jagger
I wish I had a dagger ....

Then I would stab Keith
Who gives me so much grief
It beggars my belief.

I ama petty thief
I'd rob a coral reef
And all the rocks beneath
To build a groovy pad

And live like Jack the lad
Who wasn't all that bad ...
at getting what he likes
In ditches or in dykes

Where he often dallied
With all his Long tall Sallys


This is child's play, Sir Michael Philip

Are you serious?
Are you for real?



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100 times much better than the Ghost Town thing

loved it!!...good on Mick and especially using Grohl to add his particular style of hard driving drums to it....

Do you know that all the blues are alike? Do you know that all rock looks alike? The difference is in the details, otherwise Chuck Berry would have written only one song or almost ...

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And considering the much edgier Liar dates all the way back to '77, makes this new tune sound a bit redundant and quite dated.

My grumpy old grandma could have said that too...

Funny - was she also a fan of the Sex Pistols?

Nah...she died in '86 and I guess she wasn't aware of the pistols...
But she had a soft spot for the royal family...so in a certain way
there's a link...a very weak link,I must admit...

Not bad but not particularly scintillating either. Lyrics are kind of stupid but that's to be expected from something that was apparently written quickly. I'm at least glad that Mick seems to have accepted his fate as a rock stalwart instead of a pop star-in-waiting

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Cant be arsed trawling through the thread to see if anyone else has picked up on it being quite similar to 'Liar' by the Sex Pistols, but I think its quite noticeable

video: [www.youtube.com]

Hence this new tune sounding a bit contrived and faux punk...a diluted version of the real deal. There's possibly even some copyright infringement.
And considering the much edgier Liar dates all the way back to '77, makes this new tune sound a bit redundant and quite dated.

Love Mick's response from the RS interview

Why did you decide to write about conspiracy theories?
It just seems to be that even people you know that are relatively sensible about a lot of things have one thing that they just don’t kind of get. I have several friends and relations and they go off on these things that just doesn’t… They’re just irrational. Of course, there’s no point in speaking to people about it. They don’t get it. They got what they believe in and they believe in that. And it doesn’t matter what you say, they’re gonna believe in it. And rational thought doesn’t work."

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Cant be arsed trawling through the thread to see if anyone else has picked up on it being quite similar to 'Liar' by the Sex Pistols, but I think its quite noticeable

video: [www.youtube.com]

Hence this new tune sounding a bit contrived and faux punk...a diluted version of the real deal. There's possibly even some copyright infringement.
And considering the much edgier Liar dates all the way back to '77, makes this new tune sound a bit redundant and quite dated.

Love Mick's response from the RS interview

Why did you decide to write about conspiracy theories?
It just seems to be that even people you know that are relatively sensible about a lot of things have one thing that they just don’t kind of get. I have several friends and relations and they go off on these things that just doesn’t… They’re just irrational. Of course, there’s no point in speaking to people about it. They don’t get it. They got what they believe in and they believe in that. And it doesn’t matter what you say, they’re gonna believe in it. And rational thought doesn’t work."

Johnny Rotten doesn't get it