Tell Me :
Talk
HA HA it's so FAST!
Whatever, it is amazingly good! That is the version from the NASTY SONGS bootleg, isn't it?
Seek help now.
The Hyde Park-version has a groove similar to that of the studio version, something they never managed to do again.
I was down the front too. I remember Keith, just a few feet in front of me, banging out the open chord on the intro and then producing a pick from his mouth before completing the intro.
Yeah, it is - the studio version was fresh in their mind, having just recorded it and probably had not any idea in mind yet to play it any otherwise. It is a cool version, but I always feel pity for Mick struggling with the chorus with his soar throat or what was the problem with him then. Still does a great job, a true professional as he is (but still the whole performance suffers a bit of that - like if Keith's guitar being out of tune or having a string broken).
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 15:17 by Doxa.
Hmm.. I don't know the origin of the youtube clip, but it is familair from all the old BRUSSELS AFFAIR and BEDSPRING SYMPHONY bootlegs (I am not familiar with NASTY SONGS). For some reason, the Stones picked up the other (clearly waeker me thinks) version for an official relaese (I guess the reason was that they wanted to offer versions not so familiar from the bootlegs - but the result is that the official version of the famous bootleg is not as great as it could've been... thankfully they did include THE version of "Midnight Rambler", though).
As far as the official version Brussells "Honky Tonk" go, Mick and Keith screw up big time the first chorus... sounds hilarous though, on with the show!
- Doxa
I have got no certain knowledge about these things, I seldom have. But apparently (by virtue of a libel number) my bootleg NASTY SONGS is to be identical with another bootleg, denoted as "SODD 012 Rolling Stones NASTY MUSIC".
Googling the said denotation (everyone can do so) leads to a site, where the sources of that bootleg are presented. Some songs are from the Brussels first show, others from London (Empire Pool Wembley) and, what I have always known more or less, four songs from New York (Madison Square Garden) 1972.
And yes, according to this, "Honky Tonk Women" on this boot is from Brussels 1st show. I obtained the official release a little delayed, when I bought GOATS HEAD SOUP reissue (the first reissue I have bought, in fact), and have not even now started to listen to the official Brussels affair yet.
Slow and grooving. That particular song is not out of tune, unlike some of the others
Keith is playing the Hiwatt, just like he does (it sure sounds that way) on the studio recording.
Nasty Songs - London 1973 and New York City 1972 - Dog N Cat Records
That CD-issue is not identical to my old vinyl release from the 1970s though. (I have not even got a CD-player.)
Details about the vinyl boot on
[www.discogs.com]
And I don't like you, but fail to see what that has to do with the subject at hand.
jb
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Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: March 23, 2021 23:35
Still remember the first hearing
of Honky Tonk Women ....
Gail's parents lounge room ... radio on the mantle piece
DJ announces new Stones single .... That intro ...
Excitement .. trying to catch those lyrics ..Met A gin
soaked barroom queen ...!!!! did ya hear that ....
Then the mad rush ta get out the back door before Gail's
parents came home ... runnin' to the railway bridge
with what half the song rattlin thru me body & bones ... GREAT DAYS
ROCKMAN
of Honky Tonk Women ....
Gail's parents lounge room ... radio on the mantle piece
DJ announces new Stones single .... That intro ...
Excitement .. trying to catch those lyrics ..Met A gin
soaked barroom queen ...!!!! did ya hear that ....
Then the mad rush ta get out the back door before Gail's
parents came home ... runnin' to the railway bridge
with what half the song rattlin thru me body & bones ... GREAT DAYS
ROCKMAN
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: March 24, 2021 00:15
This one. The 'other' - not the official - Brussels version.... Perfect! The way Taylor backs up the opening riff, giving it a certain roll... (later years they would have called Keith and Taylor's interplay as 'ancient art of weaving'); each element and nuance by each player spot on thru it playing- and arrangement-wise... but especially the whole chorus that is a total triumph: Mick and Keith at their peak voice singing their hearts out and the whole Rolling Stones Dream Team all cylinders on.... The whole performance is just so tense, tight but joyful!
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 00:15 by Doxa.
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 00:15 by Doxa.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
()
Date: March 24, 2021 01:07
Quote
Doxa
This one. The 'other' - not the official - Brussels version.... Perfect! The way Taylor backs up the opening riff, giving it a certain roll... (later years they would have called Keith and Taylor's interplay as 'ancient art of weaving'); each element and nuance by each player spot on thru it playing- and arrangement-wise... but especially the whole chorus that is a total triumph: Mick and Keith at their peak voice singing their hearts out and the whole Rolling Stones Dream Team all cylinders on.... The whole performance is just so tense, tight but joyful!
- Doxa
HA HA it's so FAST!
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
jbwelda
()
Date: March 24, 2021 01:28
Never really liked that song all that much, sounded like it was falling apart and didn't have any flow. Live never improved on it either, although I do like the percussion intro on the studio version.
jb
jb
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: March 24, 2021 01:37
Heck ... dont think its a good
idea we drive across The Nullarbor tagether jb
ROCKMAN
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 01:51 by Rockman.
idea we drive across The Nullarbor tagether jb
ROCKMAN
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 01:51 by Rockman.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
yearsinthemaking
()
Date: March 24, 2021 01:47
Wow, that's shocking to me.
If an alien landed in my yard and asked me to play 5 songs to define the Stones, Honky Tonk Women would certainly be one of them!!!!
If an alien landed in my yard and asked me to play 5 songs to define the Stones, Honky Tonk Women would certainly be one of them!!!!
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: March 24, 2021 02:33
Quote
GasLightStreetQuote
Doxa
This one. The 'other' - not the official - Brussels version.... Perfect! The way Taylor backs up the opening riff, giving it a certain roll... (later years they would have called Keith and Taylor's interplay as 'ancient art of weaving'); each element and nuance by each player spot on thru it playing- and arrangement-wise... but especially the whole chorus that is a total triumph: Mick and Keith at their peak voice singing their hearts out and the whole Rolling Stones Dream Team all cylinders on.... The whole performance is just so tense, tight but joyful!
- Doxa
HA HA it's so FAST!
Whatever, it is amazingly good! That is the version from the NASTY SONGS bootleg, isn't it?
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
jbwelda
()
Date: March 24, 2021 02:36
Oh I am sure we could think of a couple other songs to listen to instead, Rockman.
jb
jb
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
MKjan
()
Date: March 24, 2021 03:51
Quote
jbwelda
Never really liked that song all that much, sounded like it was falling apart and didn't have any flow. Live never improved on it either, although I do like the percussion intro on the studio version.
jb
Seek help now.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Rockman
()
Date: March 24, 2021 04:06
[b]I am sure we could think of a couple other songs to listen to instead, Rockman.[/b]
Country Honk ? .......... HHHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ROCKMAN
Country Honk ? .......... HHHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
ROCKMAN
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
stonesstein
()
Date: March 24, 2021 04:22
I am with Doxa - Brussels 73 is I-T!
That said, the version from Hyde Park 69 is really cool, and Sam Houston Col. on 7.19.78 is killer!
stonesstein
Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972
That said, the version from Hyde Park 69 is really cool, and Sam Houston Col. on 7.19.78 is killer!
stonesstein
Kick me like you did before
I can't even feel the pain no more
Rocks Off, 1972
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: March 24, 2021 11:45
I don’t like the Mona Lisa or Beethoven’s 9th eitherQuote
jbwelda
Never really liked that song all that much, sounded like it was falling apart and didn't have any flow. Live never improved on it either, although I do like the percussion intro on the studio version.
jb
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
RobertJohnson
()
Date: March 24, 2021 11:55
The long and raw versions on the 75 tour ...
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: March 24, 2021 12:44
Quote
stonesstein
I am with Doxa - Brussels 73 is I-T!
That said, the version from Hyde Park 69 is really cool, and Sam Houston Col. on 7.19.78 is killer!
The Hyde Park-version has a groove similar to that of the studio version, something they never managed to do again.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
teleblaster
()
Date: March 24, 2021 14:03
Quote
bakersfield
The Astoria 2003 (I was lucky enough to be there. HTW came as a surprise - I don't think it was set listed but it kicked ass. i was part of an ecstatic crowd singalong down the front)
I was down the front too. I remember Keith, just a few feet in front of me, banging out the open chord on the intro and then producing a pick from his mouth before completing the intro.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: March 24, 2021 14:16
Strange they played Honky Tonk Women on the1969,1970,1971tours but except for a couple of encores did not play it on the 1972 tour.But then played it on every tour in 1973 ,1975,1976,andI think on almost every future tour.But Rick Nelson played it at MSG 1972 even if Stones didn’t
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: March 24, 2021 15:03
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
stonesstein
I am with Doxa - Brussels 73 is I-T!
That said, the version from Hyde Park 69 is really cool, and Sam Houston Col. on 7.19.78 is killer!
The Hyde Park-version has a groove similar to that of the studio version, something they never managed to do again.
Yeah, it is - the studio version was fresh in their mind, having just recorded it and probably had not any idea in mind yet to play it any otherwise. It is a cool version, but I always feel pity for Mick struggling with the chorus with his soar throat or what was the problem with him then. Still does a great job, a true professional as he is (but still the whole performance suffers a bit of that - like if Keith's guitar being out of tune or having a string broken).
- Doxa
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 15:17 by Doxa.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: March 24, 2021 15:28
Quote
Witness
Whatever, it is amazingly good! That is the version from the NASTY SONGS bootleg, isn't it?
Hmm.. I don't know the origin of the youtube clip, but it is familair from all the old BRUSSELS AFFAIR and BEDSPRING SYMPHONY bootlegs (I am not familiar with NASTY SONGS). For some reason, the Stones picked up the other (clearly waeker me thinks) version for an official relaese (I guess the reason was that they wanted to offer versions not so familiar from the bootlegs - but the result is that the official version of the famous bootleg is not as great as it could've been... thankfully they did include THE version of "Midnight Rambler", though).
As far as the official version Brussells "Honky Tonk" go, Mick and Keith screw up big time the first chorus... sounds hilarous though, on with the show!
- Doxa
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Bjorn
()
Date: March 24, 2021 15:34
Hyde park? Isn´t it a bit slow? And out of tune?
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: March 24, 2021 16:35
Quote
DoxaQuote
Witness
Whatever, it is amazingly good! That is the version from the NASTY SONGS bootleg, isn't it?
Hmm.. I don't know the origin of the youtube clip, but it is familair from all the old BRUSSELS AFFAIR and BEDSPRING SYMPHONY bootlegs (I am not familiar with NASTY SONGS). For some reason, the Stones picked up the other (clearly waeker me thinks) version for an official relaese (I guess the reason was that they wanted to offer versions not so familiar from the bootlegs - but the result is that the official version of the famous bootleg is not as great as it could've been... thankfully they did include THE version of "Midnight Rambler", though).
As far as the official version Brussells "Honky Tonk" go, Mick and Keith screw up big time the first chorus... sounds hilarous though, on with the show!
- Doxa
I have got no certain knowledge about these things, I seldom have. But apparently (by virtue of a libel number) my bootleg NASTY SONGS is to be identical with another bootleg, denoted as "SODD 012 Rolling Stones NASTY MUSIC".
Googling the said denotation (everyone can do so) leads to a site, where the sources of that bootleg are presented. Some songs are from the Brussels first show, others from London (Empire Pool Wembley) and, what I have always known more or less, four songs from New York (Madison Square Garden) 1972.
And yes, according to this, "Honky Tonk Women" on this boot is from Brussels 1st show. I obtained the official release a little delayed, when I bought GOATS HEAD SOUP reissue (the first reissue I have bought, in fact), and have not even now started to listen to the official Brussels affair yet.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: March 24, 2021 16:39
Quote
Bjorn
Hyde park? Isn´t it a bit slow? And out of tune?
Slow and grooving. That particular song is not out of tune, unlike some of the others
Keith is playing the Hiwatt, just like he does (it sure sounds that way) on the studio recording.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: March 24, 2021 16:45
Quote
WitnessQuote
DoxaQuote
Witness
Whatever, it is amazingly good! That is the version from the NASTY SONGS bootleg, isn't it?
Hmm.. I don't know the origin of the youtube clip, but it is familair from all the old BRUSSELS AFFAIR and BEDSPRING SYMPHONY bootlegs (I am not familiar with NASTY SONGS). For some reason, the Stones picked up the other (clearly waeker me thinks) version for an official relaese (I guess the reason was that they wanted to offer versions not so familiar from the bootlegs - but the result is that the official version of the famous bootleg is not as great as it could've been... thankfully they did include THE version of "Midnight Rambler", though).
As far as the official version Brussells "Honky Tonk" go, Mick and Keith screw up big time the first chorus... sounds hilarous though, on with the show!
- Doxa
I have got no certain knowledge about these things, I seldom have. But apparently (by virtue of a libel number) my bootleg NASTY SONGS is to be identical with another bootleg, denoted as "SODD 012 Rolling Stones NASTY MUSIC".
Googling the said denotation (everyone can do so) leads to a site, where the sources of that bootleg are presented. Some songs are from the Brussels first show, others from London (Empire Pool Wembley) and, what I have always known more or less, four songs from New York (Madison Square Garden) 1972.
And yes, according to this, "Honky Tonk Women" on this boot is from Brussels 1st show. I obtained the official release a little delayed, when I bought GOATS HEAD SOUP reissue (the first reissue I have bought, in fact), and have not even now started to listen to the official Brussels affair yet.
Nasty Songs - London 1973 and New York City 1972 - Dog N Cat Records
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
ComeOn
()
Date: March 24, 2021 16:59
Definitely a nice opener , but I miss the cowbell from the studioversion 
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 17:11 by ComeOn.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-03-24 17:11 by ComeOn.
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Witness
()
Date: March 24, 2021 17:09
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
WitnessQuote
DoxaQuote
Witness
Whatever, it is amazingly good! That is the version from the NASTY SONGS bootleg, isn't it?
Hmm.. I don't know the origin of the youtube clip, but it is familair from all the old BRUSSELS AFFAIR and BEDSPRING SYMPHONY bootlegs (I am not familiar with NASTY SONGS). For some reason, the Stones picked up the other (clearly waeker me thinks) version for an official relaese (I guess the reason was that they wanted to offer versions not so familiar from the bootlegs - but the result is that the official version of the famous bootleg is not as great as it could've been... thankfully they did include THE version of "Midnight Rambler", though).
As far as the official version Brussells "Honky Tonk" go, Mick and Keith screw up big time the first chorus... sounds hilarous though, on with the show!
- Doxa
I have got no certain knowledge about these things, I seldom have. But apparently (by virtue of a libel number) my bootleg NASTY SONGS is to be identical with another bootleg, denoted as "SODD 012 Rolling Stones NASTY MUSIC".
Googling the said denotation (everyone can do so) leads to a site, where the sources of that bootleg are presented. Some songs are from the Brussels first show, others from London (Empire Pool Wembley) and, what I have always known more or less, four songs from New York (Madison Square Garden) 1972.
And yes, according to this, "Honky Tonk Women" on this boot is from Brussels 1st show. I obtained the official release a little delayed, when I bought GOATS HEAD SOUP reissue (the first reissue I have bought, in fact), and have not even now started to listen to the official Brussels affair yet.
Nasty Songs - London 1973 and New York City 1972 - Dog N Cat Records
That CD-issue is not identical to my old vinyl release from the 1970s though. (I have not even got a CD-player.)
Details about the vinyl boot on
[www.discogs.com]
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
kristian
()
Date: March 24, 2021 18:00
Well,
it´s a good number if there are lots of different opinions.
My favorites:
Get yer ya ya´s out
From the same tour any of those, when all three verses were done
Get your Leeds lungs out
(I´s there in Frankfurt when they opened the European tour April -76.
Honky Tonk was terrible, including Mr Richards falling on his ass)
it´s a good number if there are lots of different opinions.
My favorites:
Get yer ya ya´s out
From the same tour any of those, when all three verses were done
Get your Leeds lungs out
(I´s there in Frankfurt when they opened the European tour April -76.
Honky Tonk was terrible, including Mr Richards falling on his ass)
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: March 24, 2021 18:04
Slipping on a Frankfurter in Frankfurt...
So, it is true?
So, it is true?
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
jbwelda
()
Date: March 24, 2021 18:22
Quote
Taylor1I don’t like the Mona Lisa or Beethoven’s 9th eitherQuote
jbwelda
Never really liked that song all that much, sounded like it was falling apart and didn't have any flow. Live never improved on it either, although I do like the percussion intro on the studio version.
jb
And I don't like you, but fail to see what that has to do with the subject at hand.
jb
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
Taylor1
()
Date: March 24, 2021 18:58
Oh ,my sweetie ,you broke my heartQuote
jbweldaQuote
Taylor1I don’t like the Mona Lisa or Beethoven’s 9th eitherQuote
jbwelda
Never really liked that song all that much, sounded like it was falling apart and didn't have any flow. Live never improved on it either, although I do like the percussion intro on the studio version.
jb
And I don't like you, but fail to see what that has to do with the subject at hand.
jb
Re: Best Honky Tonk Women Live
Posted by:
jbwelda
()
Date: March 24, 2021 19:45
Again, fail to see what that has to do with the subject at hand.
I went back and reassessed my reaction. Don't hate the song, just sounds half done. Pretty good actually everywhere but the middle section they seem kind of lost, but recover well by the end. The end of the studio version is especially dynamic. So, am on a fence here, like the song but don't really love it. Kind of defines the "strutting" sound of their period between being a pop band and a rock band.
Not that it matters
jb
I went back and reassessed my reaction. Don't hate the song, just sounds half done. Pretty good actually everywhere but the middle section they seem kind of lost, but recover well by the end. The end of the studio version is especially dynamic. So, am on a fence here, like the song but don't really love it. Kind of defines the "strutting" sound of their period between being a pop band and a rock band.
Not that it matters
jb
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