For information about how to use this forum please check out forum help and policies.
Quote
Doxa
I wonder if polishing a 'bit' of its boy choir would have make it better or less charming as it is.
Quote
jahisnotdeadQuote
Doxa
I wonder if polishing a 'bit' of its boy choir would have make it better or less charming as it is.
That's kind of how I felt when comparing the two versions of "Fast Talking, Slow Walking". I hadn't heard the more well-known version before hearing the one on FFSO, so it was interesting comparing the two. The previously bootlegged version does try for that epic feel that is hinted at in the song (and that I agree should have been explored), but for me it doesn't work as well as the more laid-back and less ambitious FFSO version.
On the other hand, I much prefer the previously bootlegged version of "Living In The Heart Of Love" over the one in FFSO.
Quote
maumauQuote
IrixQuote
maumau
why spend money for a CD with tracks "inflated" from mp3 files that anyone can get for free?
Some like to have a physical copy .... [iorr.org] .
I can relate easily with the appreciation of the physical copy, i do buy records and cds, but here what you get in those physical copies is just the same mp3 lossy sound files, not a real cd quality music
Quote
TravellinManQuote
maumauQuote
IrixQuote
maumau
why spend money for a CD with tracks "inflated" from mp3 files that anyone can get for free?
Some like to have a physical copy .... [iorr.org] .
I can relate easily with the appreciation of the physical copy, i do buy records and cds, but here what you get in those physical copies is just the same mp3 lossy sound files, not a real cd quality music
Someone once wrote that when you buy a lottery ticket you buy hope until the numbers are drawn. That is worth a dollar.
It may make some sense if you think about what you are really buying. I bought a 1969 show pressed cd that was available free here because I was at the show. Somehow the pressed cd made me feel closer to the show. I am guessing that the not available until April 7 3 cd set is stolen from Captain Acid. And his upload sounds better to my ears than the original mp3s. But I ordered it because it feels more like a boot since it comes from bootleggers in Japan just like back in the 90s. Time travel for me. And I do not feel I am harming Captain Acid because he has already been ripped off so many times and does not seem disturbed by it. He just keeps putting up nice remasters. Anyway, that's how I see it.
Quote
sandandglueQuote
TravellinManQuote
maumauQuote
IrixQuote
maumau
why spend money for a CD with tracks "inflated" from mp3 files that anyone can get for free?
Some like to have a physical copy .... [iorr.org] .
I can relate easily with the appreciation of the physical copy, i do buy records and cds, but here what you get in those physical copies is just the same mp3 lossy sound files, not a real cd quality music
Someone once wrote that when you buy a lottery ticket you buy hope until the numbers are drawn. That is worth a dollar.
It may make some sense if you think about what you are really buying. I bought a 1969 show pressed cd that was available free here because I was at the show. Somehow the pressed cd made me feel closer to the show. I am guessing that the not available until April 7 3 cd set is stolen from Captain Acid. And his upload sounds better to my ears than the original mp3s. But I ordered it because it feels more like a boot since it comes from bootleggers in Japan just like back in the 90s. Time travel for me. And I do not feel I am harming Captain Acid because he has already been ripped off so many times and does not seem disturbed by it. He just keeps putting up nice remasters. Anyway, that's how I see it.
Sorry to be pedantic but the latest 3CD set was announced on Tuesday where as Captain Acid announced his set on the Wednesday (UK time)- I assume that it’s a case of ‘great minds think alike’ regarding the dates of this disk. It’s great to hear what the good Captain does but I think you were square on the nose regards collecting. I much prefer finding a silver online or, better still, in a store!
Quote
jbwelda
I doubt this will see release on vinyl, spatter color or not. Just too expensive to produce and pressing plants are notorious for ratting out their booting clients. Cheap and simple CDs, especially the follow-on CDRs, will be where this stays I think. If a good quality vinyl version did come out though, I would be in line.
jb
Quote
maumau
why spend money for a CD with tracks "inflated" from mp3 files that anyone can get for free? can't grasp
Quote
LiveAtHideparkQuote
jbwelda
I doubt this will see release on vinyl, spatter color or not. Just too expensive to produce and pressing plants are notorious for ratting out their booting clients. Cheap and simple CDs, especially the follow-on CDRs, will be where this stays I think. If a good quality vinyl version did come out though, I would be in line.
jb
jbwelba, do you really want to listen to MP3 recordings with additional clicks, pops, crackles, wow, flutter, distorsion and hiss ?
Quote
JohnnySnapps
I just gave a close listen to the first couple of minutes of Fast Walking, Slow Walking. For comparison I used the recent Fully Finished Studio Outtakes version and the version from "Fast Talking" VGP 237. I think they are two different takes.
Charlie's drums are different during the part where Mick sings, "Ain't it hard to find a guy through this life at all" (He sings it "guy in this world at all" on the FFSO version) around 1:30 into the song. On the VGP version he plays the ride cymbal through this part. On the FFSO version he sticks to the hi hat.
I'm pretty sure the wah guitar is different also. At the very beginning, on the VGP version, he is playing the phrase very steady, very much in time with the beat, and he holds the chord and lets it fade as the lyrics start. On the intro of the FFSO version, he is doing a little pull off in the beginning phrase instead, and he doesn't let the chord ring when the lyrics start.
I wish they had done more with this tune and included it on the deluxe Exile.
That's my two cents...
Oh, and that FFSO set was such a fantastic surprise! What a treasure trove!
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
JohnnySnapps
I just gave a close listen to the first couple of minutes of Fast Walking, Slow Walking. For comparison I used the recent Fully Finished Studio Outtakes version and the version from "Fast Talking" VGP 237. I think they are two different takes.
Charlie's drums are different during the part where Mick sings, "Ain't it hard to find a guy through this life at all" (He sings it "guy in this world at all" on the FFSO version) around 1:30 into the song. On the VGP version he plays the ride cymbal through this part. On the FFSO version he sticks to the hi hat.
I'm pretty sure the wah guitar is different also. At the very beginning, on the VGP version, he is playing the phrase very steady, very much in time with the beat, and he holds the chord and lets it fade as the lyrics start. On the intro of the FFSO version, he is doing a little pull off in the beginning phrase instead, and he doesn't let the chord ring when the lyrics start.
I wish they had done more with this tune and included it on the deluxe Exile.
That's my two cents...
Oh, and that FFSO set was such a fantastic surprise! What a treasure trove!
Thanks!
I never doubted there were differences, but wondered whether the drums, bass and guitar were the same. I have only listened to this version once.
Quote
MathijsQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
JohnnySnapps
I just gave a close listen to the first couple of minutes of Fast Walking, Slow Walking. For comparison I used the recent Fully Finished Studio Outtakes version and the version from "Fast Talking" VGP 237. I think they are two different takes.
Charlie's drums are different during the part where Mick sings, "Ain't it hard to find a guy through this life at all" (He sings it "guy in this world at all" on the FFSO version) around 1:30 into the song. On the VGP version he plays the ride cymbal through this part. On the FFSO version he sticks to the hi hat.
I'm pretty sure the wah guitar is different also. At the very beginning, on the VGP version, he is playing the phrase very steady, very much in time with the beat, and he holds the chord and lets it fade as the lyrics start. On the intro of the FFSO version, he is doing a little pull off in the beginning phrase instead, and he doesn't let the chord ring when the lyrics start.
I wish they had done more with this tune and included it on the deluxe Exile.
That's my two cents...
Oh, and that FFSO set was such a fantastic surprise! What a treasure trove!
Thanks!
I never doubted there were differences, but wondered whether the drums, bass and guitar were the same. I have only listened to this version once.
It's two different versions, this version has the Leslie guitar plays out of tune. Is that Richards? I always assumed it was Taylor, but I never heard him play out of tune.
Mathijs
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
MathijsQuote
DandelionPowderman
I never doubted there were differences, but wondered whether the drums, bass and guitar were the same. I have only listened to this version once.
It's two different versions, this version has the Leslie guitar plays out of tune. Is that Richards? I always assumed it was Taylor, but I never heard him play out of tune.
Mathijs
It's a weird figure/motif to be Keith, but most likely it is, I'd say.
But I gotta listen more. Haven't really had the time to listen properly to all this wonderful stuff
Quote
TheflyingDutchmanQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
MathijsQuote
DandelionPowderman
I never doubted there were differences, but wondered whether the drums, bass and guitar were the same. I have only listened to this version once.
It's two different versions, this version has the Leslie guitar plays out of tune. Is that Richards? I always assumed it was Taylor, but I never heard him play out of tune.
Mathijs
It's a weird figure/motif to be Keith, but most likely it is, I'd say.
But I gotta listen more. Haven't really had the time to listen properly to all this wonderful stuff
What the heck are you guys talking about, what recording??
Quote
TravelinMan
Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
Quote
MathijsQuote
TravelinMan
Wow. That recently released version of Fast Talking doesn't really sound like Taylor for the most part. The solo still sounds like something Taylor would play but not as much as the older version.
I agree, it sounds very much like something Taylor would play, but I really think it is Keith. It is not as smooth and technical like Taylor would play, and some of the bends are out of tune, something I never heard Taylor play.
Mathijs
Quote
Rockman
Trouble's A Coming .....
Lurv da grindin' groove
Makes ya walk backwards when I'm tryin' ta go forward ... ...