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1. No Jimmy Page in Scarlet. Solo is modern overdub, maybe Ronnie, definitly not Keith.
2. Page did the overdub recently, then the legend story which they told in that clip is a fake. Or am I wrong?
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I understand the source of this release is in mp3 format and was quite compressed to begin with. The bootlegger added more mastering to it...
It makes dating the tracks not easier. Curtis Meets Smokey is supposedly from 1969, but it does sound much more like Undercover session to me. Guitar is in Wood's soul style, bass sounds like it is Jim Barber or something. But the piano again sounds like Nicky Hopkins.
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Not to mention there's a conga player on it.
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nobody's perfect is unbelievable and not in a good way imo. it is labelled as 1975 but it sounds like a don't stop part II and has to my ears the sound of 2002. so, if it is genuinely a 1975 outtake not reworked it traces mick and keith weak writing way back in the past. anyway, the bridge part is really something weird for a song penned in the mid seventies imo although I hear something that might recall an uptempo through the lonely nights. my guess is that it is an old track reworked more recently.
weaker track in the whole bunch, to me anyway
Imo this song (the worst of the bootleg) comes from Primitive Cool sessions or Dirty Work.
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Scarlet:
The guitar-solo is missing!
I thought that would have been Jimmy Page.
So what was his contribution to this song?
Anyone knows?
According to Jimmy, it was indeed him playing the solo - not sure why it's missing in this version, though have to admit I've paid very little attention to this one.
From official Rolling Stones youtube channel > The story of Scarlet featuring Jimmy Page
Thank you hairball. I know this clip. But I see only two possibilities: 1. No Jimmy Page in Scarlet. Solo is modern overdub, maybe Ronnie, definitly not Keith.
2. Page did the overdub recently, then the legend story which they told in that clip is a fake. Or am I wrong?
Here's this from a series of tweets Jimmy posted on July 20. 2020, saying he added the solo the second night of the sessions: Jimmy Page on Twitter
- On this day in 2020, Scarlet by @RollingStones, featuring me, is released.
I was invited to Ronnie Woods’ house in Richmond to do a session in October 1974. It was said that Keith Richards and Ian Stuart (Stu) would be there.
It sounded a good opportunity to catch up with old friends.?There was Keith Richards on electric guitar, myself on electric guitar,
Rick Grech on bass and a drummer and engineer I had not met before. Keith kicked it off and I began to mould a riff around his guitar part to augment the arrangement.
It began to lock-in pretty soon with the musicians and we all got a successful take that evening. I’d had a good time working with Keith. ?
It was said they were continuing the following night at Island Number 2 Studios in London. I said I’d go and play some guitar soloing on it.
I arrived early on that evening and got to do it straight away within a few takes. It sounded good to me and I left them to it.?
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Could be this newly unearthed version is from the first night before the solo was recorded, but even some of the rhythm guitar and the time/chord changes sound like Jimmy.
Definitely not his best by a longshot, but rather some throwaway jam session ideas as is the entire song that was officially released last July 20th.
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Sanctuary, holy shit.
And the guitar-fest of riffs and bends that is Dreams to Remember.
And the feel and guitars on Desperate Man.
And... lol, I'm swimming in this shit.
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nobody's perfect is unbelievable and not in a good way imo. it is labelled as 1975 but it sounds like a don't stop part II and has to my ears the sound of 2002. so, if it is genuinely a 1975 outtake not reworked it traces mick and keith weak writing way back in the past. anyway, the bridge part is really something weird for a song penned in the mid seventies imo although I hear something that might recall an uptempo through the lonely nights. my guess is that it is an old track reworked more recently.
weaker track in the whole bunch, to me anyway
Imo this song (the worst of the bootleg) comes from Primitive Cool sessions or Dirty Work.
It is listed as being from the 1985 DIRTY WORK sessions.
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The version of "Don't Lie to Me" is incredible, Stones on top.
. Nope, it’s not better than the live 1972 Ft Worth version.And Chuck doesn’t outshine NickyQuote
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The version of "Don't Lie to Me" is incredible, Stones on top.
Yup the band plays like it's 1972 again and Chuck totally outshines Nicky and Stu! ><