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1. No Jimmy Page in Scarlet. Solo is modern overdub, maybe Ronnie, definitly not Keith.
2. Page did the overdub recently, then the legend story which they told in that clip is a fake. Or am I wrong?

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I understand the source of this release is in mp3 format and was quite compressed to begin with. The bootlegger added more mastering to it...

It makes dating the tracks not easier. Curtis Meets Smokey is supposedly from 1969, but it does sound much more like Undercover session to me. Guitar is in Wood's soul style, bass sounds like it is Jim Barber or something. But the piano again sounds like Nicky Hopkins.

Mathijs

Not to mention there's a conga player on it.

Brian or Rocky turned up.

There's various little licks in it that are dead on to Ry in Jamming With Edward. The dirt on Mick's mic is also same.



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nobody's perfect is unbelievable and not in a good way imo. it is labelled as 1975 but it sounds like a don't stop part II and has to my ears the sound of 2002. so, if it is genuinely a 1975 outtake not reworked it traces mick and keith weak writing way back in the past. anyway, the bridge part is really something weird for a song penned in the mid seventies imo although I hear something that might recall an uptempo through the lonely nights. my guess is that it is an old track reworked more recently.

weaker track in the whole bunch, to me anyway

Imo this song (the worst of the bootleg) comes from Primitive Cool sessions or Dirty Work.

It is listed as being from the 1985 DIRTY WORK sessions.

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Sanctuary, holy shit.

And the guitar-fest of riffs and bends that is Dreams to Remember.

And the feel and guitars on Desperate Man.

And... lol, I'm swimming in this shit.

And here's a video for Rolling Stones - Sanctuary

*EDIT* Video deleted from YouTube, so the link has been removed, sorry.



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And here's a video for Rolling Stones - Sanctuary

Cool video - I like the decaying abandonment.
Would have worked well with Ghost Town also.

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Ok, I'm going crazy here. I know JordyLicks posted a list of the songs and their estimated provenance, but U cannot find it here! Could someone direct me to it?

Many thanks!
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Scarlet:
The guitar-solo is missing!
I thought that would have been Jimmy Page.
So what was his contribution to this song?
Anyone knows?

According to Jimmy, it was indeed him playing the solo - not sure why it's missing in this version, though have to admit I've paid very little attention to this one.
From official Rolling Stones youtube channel > The story of Scarlet featuring Jimmy Page

Thank you hairball. I know this clip. But I see only two possibilities: 1. No Jimmy Page in Scarlet. Solo is modern overdub, maybe Ronnie, definitly not Keith.
2. Page did the overdub recently, then the legend story which they told in that clip is a fake. Or am I wrong?

Here's this from a series of tweets Jimmy posted on July 20. 2020, saying he added the solo the second night of the sessions: Jimmy Page on Twitter

- On this day in 2020, Scarlet by @RollingStones, featuring me, is released.
I was invited to Ronnie Woods’ house in Richmond to do a session in October 1974. It was said that Keith Richards and Ian Stuart (Stu) would be there.
It sounded a good opportunity to catch up with old friends.?There was Keith Richards on electric guitar, myself on electric guitar,
Rick Grech on bass and a drummer and engineer I had not met before. Keith kicked it off and I began to mould a riff around his guitar part to augment the arrangement.
It began to lock-in pretty soon with the musicians and we all got a successful take that evening. I’d had a good time working with Keith. ?
It was said they were continuing the following night at Island Number 2 Studios in London. I said I’d go and play some guitar soloing on it.
I arrived early on that evening and got to do it straight away within a few takes. It sounded good to me and I left them to it.?

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Could be this newly unearthed version is from the first night before the solo was recorded, but even some of the rhythm guitar and the time/chord changes sound like Jimmy.
Definitely not his best by a longshot, but rather some throwaway jam session ideas as is the entire song that was officially released last July 20th.

Yes, Dandelion Powderman has the same opinion in the next post. This is a possibility, if the voice is "young Jagger". This point we discussed last summer. I think the main vox is mostly an overdub post 1989. Why should Jagger work with the tape from the first night or mute the solo in the mix? Makes no sense for me. Maybe it remains a secret...



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Is it only me who hears some resemblance between the harmonica on Ivy league and the later Sweet neocon?

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Cool video

Thanks very much.

*EDIT* I took down the video, because people were starting to get their channels removed or blocked for using music from this set of boots.



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All these tracks coming from an unknew label...!..made for these special occasion....!

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Sanctuary, holy shit.

And the guitar-fest of riffs and bends that is Dreams to Remember.

And the feel and guitars on Desperate Man.

And... lol, I'm swimming in this shit.

All attributed to 1997 now, no surprise, they were on fire at that time and it transpired in the album !

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And the best may be yet to come. I have no insider info but logically the B2B outtakes that circulate among the happy few should be on the next volumes of the FFSO.
Indeed creatively speaking they were in full force in 97. 3 years to craft new songs and no solo albums to divert some of the songwriting from a band's album.

The only thing that was missing was... a Ron Wood relative to leak DAT's of the B2B sessions 2 years after they took place!

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nobody's perfect is unbelievable and not in a good way imo. it is labelled as 1975 but it sounds like a don't stop part II and has to my ears the sound of 2002. so, if it is genuinely a 1975 outtake not reworked it traces mick and keith weak writing way back in the past. anyway, the bridge part is really something weird for a song penned in the mid seventies imo although I hear something that might recall an uptempo through the lonely nights. my guess is that it is an old track reworked more recently.

weaker track in the whole bunch, to me anyway

Imo this song (the worst of the bootleg) comes from Primitive Cool sessions or Dirty Work.

It is listed as being from the 1985 DIRTY WORK sessions.

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now i see, thanks, it makes more sense than 1975, a misprint then

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And here's a video for Rolling Stones - Sanctuary

cool video! and the track wow the more I listen the more I love it

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And here's a video for Rolling Stones - Sanctuary

It reminds me of Sopranos opening theme.

This thread is a sticky!

Sticky tuff!

This is my playlist, in order:

THE ROLLING STONES | KEEP IT COOL

01 3-04 - Living In The Heart Of Love
02 1-02 - Trouble's A Coming
03 1-03 - Dreams To Remember
04 1-06 - Eliza Upchink
05 1-04 - Don't Lie To Me
06 2-01 - It's A Lie
07 1-13 - (You Better) Stop That
08 2-09 - You Win Again
09 1-16 - Never Make You Cry
10 2-03 - Not The Way To Go
11 2-06 - Built That Way
12 1-09 - Putty In Your Hands
13 2-02 - I Can't See No One Else
14 2-08 - Can't Find Love
15 3-06 - I Tried To Talk Into It
16 2-13 - Every Time I Break Her Heart
17 2-12 - Cookin' Up
18 1-15 - Walk With Me Wendy
19 3-09 - Curtis Meets Smokey
20 3-05 - Still In Love
21 1-12 - Tell Her How It Is
22 1-05 - Fuji Jim
23 3-14 - Strictly Memphis
24 2-05 - Hands Off
25 2-07 - Keep It Cool
26 2-14 - Dream About
27 3-03 - Praire Love
28 3-02 - Desperate Man
29 3-11 - Ivy League
30 3-08 - Too Many Cooks
31 2-11 - Fast Talking Slow Walking
32 1-10 - Dog Shit


Playlist, total playtime 02:30:25


THE ROLLING STONES | STRICTLY LOVE

01 3-04 - Living In The Heart Of Love
02 1-02 - Trouble's A Coming
03 1-03 - Dreams To Remember
04 1-06 - Eliza Upchink
05 1-04 - Don't Lie To Me
06 2-01 - It's A Lie
07 2-06 - Built That Way
08 1-09 - Putty In Your Hands
09 3-09 - Curtis Meets Smokey
10 2-08 - Can't Find Love
11 3-14 - Strictly Memphis
12 2-05 - Hands Off
13 3-03 - Praire Love

CD album total playtime 59:26



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Thanks for sharing. I hear it just now. The version of "Don't Lie to Me" is incredible, Stones on top.

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The version of "Don't Lie to Me" is incredible, Stones on top.

Yup the band plays like it's 1972 again and Chuck totally outshines Nicky and Stu! ><

[Nota bene : this post is ironic]



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Hi
could someone post the unreleased songs?
Thank you



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You haven't looked very hard have you ? ;-)
-> [iorr.org]

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The version of "Don't Lie to Me" is incredible, Stones on top.

Yup the band plays like it's 1972 again and Chuck totally outshines Nicky and Stu! ><

. Nope, it’s not better than the live 1972 Ft Worth version.And Chuck doesn’t outshine Nicky

Dreams to Remember - loving this one, and all of the other '82/'83 tracks.

Is 'Dreams to Remember' an original or a cover?

YouTube account and channel has been pulled by universal!

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You haven't looked very hard have you ? ;-)
-> [iorr.org]

Yes, I have already downloaded it and listened to the songs. I just wanted to know, of the 50 songs which of them had never been published
Thanks