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GasLightStreet
One thing for sure... they will be remembered for what is arguably the greatest if not the most recognizable and one of the all time Top Ten logos in history.
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GasLightStreet
One thing for sure... they will be remembered for what is arguably the greatest if not the most recognizable and one of the all time Top Ten logos in history.
Can't disagree with your observation! Arguably one of the most recognizable logos indeed!
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GasLightStreet
One thing for sure... they will be remembered for what is arguably the greatest if not the most recognizable and one of the all time Top Ten logos in history.
Can't disagree with your observation! Arguably one of the most recognizable logos indeed!
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Natlanta
the how forgot part is a toughie.
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MisterDDDD
The Beatles will always be remembered first by history, because they were first in so many ways.
I bet over the decades to come they will follow more in Elvis' footsteps though, meaning much of their luster will fade (away). More pop than rock being the main reason for the rationale,
but also the tarnish of the individual members, etc., again, much like Elvis.
The Rolling Stones on the other hand, have always embraced and cultivated their tarnished image(s) from day one. They'll hold their image better and that along with their astonishing 60+ years of being a band, all the live concerts, etc
The Beatles may take the Greatest Pop Band (which they can have) title, but the Stones will forever be remembered as they are known now.. undoubtably holding this title as long as the question is asked. .
The World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band
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Witness
I think one will find both pop and rock in the music of the Beatles and of the Rolling Stones. Probably a different percentage of each in the two of them. Instead, my own suggestion of the difference between the Stones and the Beatles is that there is more or less a blues foundation in the music of the Stones and more or less a lack of it in the music of the Beatles.
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NilsHolgersson
I think the Stones and the Beatles will be thrown in the same basket of 60s music. Their music after the 60s wasn't that relevant and will be forgotton more easily, it's the 60s counterculture image that's in the school textbooks. Anybody interested in that era will find them along with Woodstock music, drugs, long hair, hippies, Beatles, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Vietnam, Kennedy's, MLK, etc.
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Witness
I think one will find both pop and rock in the music of the Beatles and of the Rolling Stones. Probably a different percentage of each in the two of them. Instead, my own suggestion of the difference between the Stones and the Beatles is that there is more or less a blues foundation in the music of the Stones and more or less a lack of it in the music of the Beatles.
Fair opinion..
Not knocking the lads, but they were much, much, much, more "pop" than rock.The original "boy band"
Stones... much, much, much, more rock.
We don't even have to wait for the future for that legacy to already be accurate.
Just asked Siri who was considered the worlds greatest rock & roll band.. the Stones was the reply.
Asked who was the greatest pop band of all time, and The Beatles was the reply.
Google concurred (one and the same(?)
Point is.. especially when it comes to The Beatles, historians have already written that chapter now some 50 years after their demise.
They're waiting to finish the Stones chapter, but the title of "The World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band" has been cast in.. umm.. stone
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NilsHolgersson
I think the Stones and the Beatles will be thrown in the same basket of 60s music. Their music after the 60s wasn't that relevant and will be forgotton more easily, it's the 60s counterculture image that's in the school textbooks. Anybody interested in that era will find them along with Woodstock music, drugs, long hair, hippies, Beatles, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Vietnam, Kennedy's, MLK, etc.
Not quite sure where you're going on this. John Lennon's first solo album will grow and grow in stature. The Stones were certainly relevant in 1978, with Miss You. All of the artists you mentioned will be studied and revered. Mostly because they weren't replaced by greater artists. They are the pinnacle. Big Band Music was the pop music of its day. Everyone thought it would be disposable and forgotten. Now someone like Artie Shaw, or Ellington, are seen as geniuses.
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NilsHolgersson
Let's hope identity politics will die a quick death.. the stupid idea that every culture should stay in a vacuum and don't influence each other and borrow things from each other.. white guys can't play the blues? A black man can't wear a business suit?
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NilsHolgersson
Let's hope identity politics will die a quick death.. the stupid idea that every culture should stay in a vacuum and don't influence each other and borrow things from each other.. white guys can't play the blues? A black man can't wear a business suit?
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NilsHolgersson
Let's hope identity politics will die a quick death.. the stupid idea that every culture should stay in a vacuum and don't influence each other and borrow things from each other.. white guys can't play the blues? A black man can't wear a business suit?
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NilsHolgersson
Let's hope identity politics will die a quick death.. the stupid idea that every culture should stay in a vacuum and don't influence each other and borrow things from each other.. white guys can't play the blues? A black man can't wear a business suit?
"Identity Politics?"
it has nothing to do with cultures "staying in a vaccum" or what music you are "allowed" to play...obviously people can play what they want, but if the system rewards a specific race for playing a type of music while systematically excluding another, that's a problem...
....especially if the former is "stealing" or "borrowing from" or "influenced by" the latter....
and, simply put, the future might not look as favorably or indifferently upon that practice as the current generation...
it all has to do w/ what will be considered "theft" "borrowing" or "plagiarism" in the future...
the reality is, cultural-appropriation DID happen...(Elvis never wrote a single song...and he's The King?)
it is a fact that blacks were legally and systematically excluded from the same opportunities as whites in the Music World (and beyond).
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that's not "identity politics"...that's fact...how the future choses to evaluate those facts will be up to them.
the one thing the Stones do have going for them is that they tried to elevate the musicians and music that they "borrowed" from (or were "influenced by"....whatever term you like)....
Led Zep, Elvis and others on the other hand, will be looked at as thieves...rightfully so, IMO.
"a black man can't wear a business suit" - oof...yikes. Not the best way to try to make your point...IMO.
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GasLightStreet
It's going to be quite a while until the Stones are forgotten.
Baseball cards etc... things that people can hold in their hand. There are still a lot of people with Stones albums, regardless of the format. Not that every Stones fan has kept every album they ever bought but people have bought physical copies of every Stones album.
The digital demise will take a while. The Stones are not going anywhere but being forgotten as a whole etc could be pretty much complete in another 20 or 30 years with the dying of a couple of generations, like me, 50 years old right now, and with what we will be consumed with time wise in regards to the changes in the world that are about to get a lot worse this decade.
When the Gulf Stream shuts down and Europe turns into a glacier, why would anyone there care about the Stones!?
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NilsHolgersson
Let's hope identity politics will die a quick death.. the stupid idea that every culture should stay in a vacuum and don't influence each other and borrow things from each other.. white guys can't play the blues? A black man can't wear a business suit?
I agree, identity-based way thinking will not be able to go on much longer - it divides people and contributes nothing to society.
On another point, I have to say sometimes it's weird coming on here as a young Stones fan - because this section of the board is so "doom and gloom" - I read posts saying how no one will care in the future etc., yet so many of my friends and I are so obsessed with this band and playing guitar. That's why I usually stay if the buy/sell/trade section!
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NilsHolgersson
Let's hope identity politics will die a quick death.. the stupid idea that every culture should stay in a vacuum and don't influence each other and borrow things from each other.. white guys can't play the blues? A black man can't wear a business suit?
I agree, identity-based way thinking will not be able to go on much longer - it divides people and contributes nothing to society.
On another point, I have to say sometimes it's weird coming on here as a young Stones fan - because this section of the board is so "doom and gloom" - I read posts saying how no one will care in the future etc., yet so many of my friends and I are so obsessed with this band and playing guitar. That's why I usually stay if the buy/sell/trade section!
gavin 5, take heart, the negatives often drown out the positives on many topics, but that's because complaining, er, critiquing is so common everywhere, while the more optimistic people just sit things out, on the whole. Glad you are here with us old fogies, and nce to hear about your friends, Have you been to any RS shows?