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What I've always found so interesting is how awful the sound they put out for the TATTOO YOU tours works great with Under My Thumb, When The Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Time Is On My Side, Going To A Go-Go, Let Me Go, Let It Bleed and even Honky Tonk Women but the rest of it is awful, which is more of a result of the rushed and frantic performances grinding against the twanky bright trebly sound, which, bizarrely, on some tunes the heave of Wyman's playing is fantastically audible and provides great audio examples of his and Charlie's interaction.
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What I've always found so interesting is how awful the sound they put out for the TATTOO YOU tours works great with Under My Thumb, When The Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Time Is On My Side, Going To A Go-Go, Let Me Go, Let It Bleed and even Honky Tonk Women but the rest of it is awful, which is more of a result of the rushed and frantic performances grinding against the twanky bright trebly sound, which, bizarrely, on some tunes the heave of Wyman's playing is fantastically audible and provides great audio examples of his and Charlie's interaction.
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totally agree!
tour `81 I always liked the first part, after Let It Bleed, they sound very fast and messy! horrible versions of Hang Fire, Shes So Cold, etc.
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What I've always found so interesting is how awful the sound they put out for the TATTOO YOU tours works great with Under My Thumb, When The Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Time Is On My Side, Going To A Go-Go, Let Me Go, Let It Bleed and even Honky Tonk Women but the rest of it is awful, which is more of a result of the rushed and frantic performances grinding against the twanky bright trebly sound, which, bizarrely, on some tunes the heave of Wyman's playing is fantastically audible and provides great audio examples of his and Charlie's interaction.
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totally agree!
tour `81 I always liked the first part, after Let It Bleed, they sound very fast and messy! horrible versions of Hang Fire, Shes So Cold, etc.
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Stoneage
One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
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GasLightStreet
What I've always found so interesting is how awful the sound they put out for the TATTOO YOU tours works great with Under My Thumb, When The Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Time Is On My Side, Going To A Go-Go, Let Me Go, Let It Bleed and even Honky Tonk Women but the rest of it is awful, which is more of a result of the rushed and frantic performances grinding against the twanky bright trebly sound, which, bizarrely, on some tunes the heave of Wyman's playing is fantastically audible and provides great audio examples of his and Charlie's interaction.
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totally agree!
tour `81 I always liked the first part, after Let It Bleed, they sound very fast and messy! horrible versions of Hang Fire, Shes So Cold, etc.
What about YCAGWYW, TD and Miss You?
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What I've always found so interesting is how awful the sound they put out for the TATTOO YOU tours works great with Under My Thumb, When The Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Time Is On My Side, Going To A Go-Go, Let Me Go, Let It Bleed and even Honky Tonk Women but the rest of it is awful, which is more of a result of the rushed and frantic performances grinding against the twanky bright trebly sound, which, bizarrely, on some tunes the heave of Wyman's playing is fantastically audible and provides great audio examples of his and Charlie's interaction.
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totally agree!
tour `81 I always liked the first part, after Let It Bleed, they sound very fast and messy! horrible versions of Hang Fire, Shes So Cold, etc.
What about YCAGWYW, TD and Miss You?
Jagger's grunt singing was a bit too much with those! It's nice to appreciate how they did them differently, especially with so many other live versions to compare them to, they're just not as well performed as they were on other tours.
Some of the messiness was interesting though. Neighbours and Hang Fire, as frantic and torn as they were, give that kind of grounding for what overall sets the tone for the 1981-82 tours. Perhaps if they hadn't done so many songs they might've played a bit slower. Even with the long songs like YCAGWYW and Miss You and Brown Sugar... it kind of seems like they had to fly through everything because there was so much. I dunno. They certainly did better versions of those before and after these two tours. What's funny for me is I like how messed up they are, but critically, they're just not very good.
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What I've always found so interesting is how awful the sound they put out for the TATTOO YOU tours works great with Under My Thumb, When The Whip Comes Down, Imagination, Time Is On My Side, Going To A Go-Go, Let Me Go, Let It Bleed and even Honky Tonk Women but the rest of it is awful, which is more of a result of the rushed and frantic performances grinding against the twanky bright trebly sound, which, bizarrely, on some tunes the heave of Wyman's playing is fantastically audible and provides great audio examples of his and Charlie's interaction.
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totally agree!
tour `81 I always liked the first part, after Let It Bleed, they sound very fast and messy! horrible versions of Hang Fire, Shes So Cold, etc.
What about YCAGWYW, TD and Miss You?
Jagger's grunt singing was a bit too much with those! It's nice to appreciate how they did them differently, especially with so many other live versions to compare them to, they're just not as well performed as they were on other tours.
Some of the messiness was interesting though. Neighbours and Hang Fire, as frantic and torn as they were, give that kind of grounding for what overall sets the tone for the 1981-82 tours. Perhaps if they hadn't done so many songs they might've played a bit slower. Even with the long songs like YCAGWYW and Miss You and Brown Sugar... it kind of seems like they had to fly through everything because there was so much. I dunno. They certainly did better versions of those before and after these two tours. What's funny for me is I like how messed up they are, but critically, they're just not very good.
I mentioned those songs because they weren't as messed up or rushed as some other numbers
An interesting thing with YCAGWYW from the 1982-tour is that Ronnie does a slide solo on it - very different, but I like it.
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An interesting thing with YCAGWYW from the 1982-tour is that Ronnie does a slide solo on it - very different, but I like it.
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GasLightStreet
I can't remember who generally chimes in about Bobby on this tour. Doxa, perhaps. If I recall correctly, har har, Bobby joined in around 3/4 of the US tour and was on the entire 1982 tour.
Bobby joined from October 9 in LA, and stayed until the end. So he played 90% of the tour.
The second part of the 1981 is far better than 1982 in my opinion. In 1981 they still were the big bad Rolling Stones, in 1982 the horns became way too orchestrated and Chuck Leavell injected a healthy dose of non-RnR into the Stones.
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This is a cool version. I prefer it to 81' actually.
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I can't remember who generally chimes in about Bobby on this tour. Doxa, perhaps. If I recall correctly, har har, Bobby joined in around 3/4 of the US tour and was on the entire 1982 tour.
Bobby joined from October 9 in LA, and stayed until the end. So he played 90% of the tour.
The second part of the 1981 is far better than 1982 in my opinion. In 1981 they still were the big bad Rolling Stones, in 1982 the horns became way too orchestrated and Chuck Leavell injected a healthy dose of non-RnR into the Stones.
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Bobby's presence was far more sporadic through the 81 tour and was certainly nowhere near 90% of the 81 tour. I assume you mean Ernie was 90% of the tour? It's Ernie being introduced on the majority of the 81 boots, and it was Ernie only when I saw them in Chicago on 11/23.
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Stoneage
Hard to tell. There are very few recordings with professional quality around. Especially from the 1982 tour. Hampton, LSTNT and Leeds are the ones that comes to mind.
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There are lots of audience recordings around, Salt of the Earth. I'm talking about professional recordings. I wouldn't bother with audience recordings - even if they are from a gig I attended.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
Agreed. 1981 was their worst tour ever. They just basically butchered their own songs for 2 hours. The crowds were dead and disappointed. Not sure about 1982.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
Agreed. 1981 was their worst tour ever. They just basically butchered their own songs for 2 hours. The crowds were dead and disappointed. Not sure about 1982.
Which gig you have seen 1981? Was it Philly 1+2?
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
Agreed. 1981 was their worst tour ever. They just basically butchered their own songs for 2 hours. The crowds were dead and disappointed. Not sure about 1982.
Which gig you have seen 1981? Was it Philly 1+2?
Buffalo and Syracuse and I have also watched every video that was taken during that tour. Butchered song and dead crowd basically every concert.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
Agreed. 1981 was their worst tour ever. They just basically butchered their own songs for 2 hours. The crowds were dead and disappointed. Not sure about 1982.
Which gig you have seen 1981? Was it Philly 1+2?
Buffalo and Syracuse and I have also watched every video that was taken during that tour. Butchered song and dead crowd basically every concert.
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One observation about the 81/82 tour: Neither of the Tattoo You songs came out good live. I think they slaughtered SMU for instance.
Uninspiring. Black Limousine might be the exception though. It sounded pretty good.
Agreed. 1981 was their worst tour ever. They just basically butchered their own songs for 2 hours. The crowds were dead and disappointed. Not sure about 1982.