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Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 3, 2021 23:03



Yazoo 2008



Great soundin' Gus Cannon - Poor Boy
AND running at correct speed.......... CLASSIC


Some beautiful Frank Stokes tracks .. Tom Dickson's
Death Bell Blues and Hattie Hart's salacious I Let My Daddy Do That




ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 4, 2021 00:13

great info rockman
also i'd like to add and i don't know what the rules are in other countrys or areas but in the US i don't have a lot of money to spend on these so i go to my local library and if they don't have something i want (which is often) i can place a inter library loan then i can access thousands of library collections in the country and a couple weeks later i usally get
it not always but i get some really rare or expensive things that way thats how i got patton's screamin' & hollerin' boxset and all the stones singles collection and mono boxsets for free

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 00:23

Great liner notes in Revenant - Screamin and Hollerin' ...
Plus it comes with John Fahey's book on Charley .....

One crazy thing that annoyed me about the set though
was that on one of the Patton discs there are two hidden tracks

So you have to place CD in player wait for it to
recognize disc then hit reverse button and back it
up through those first two hidden tracks before can hear them ...



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 4, 2021 00:38

didn't know that
and i agree great liner notes

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 01:23



Screamin and Hollering track listings ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: detroitken ()
Date: February 4, 2021 01:49

The Smithsonion box setr are pretty good...(imo)

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 02:31

You may go, you may stay..
for she'll come back one sweet day
Bye-a-bye sweet mama bye-a-bye ....

...................... Poor Me - Charley Patton 1934



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 02:42

If you've got a good bull cow y'oughta feed your bull cow good at home
If you've got a good bull cow y'oughta feed your bull cow good at home
Boy, feed him good at home
It may come along a young heifer and jus' tow your bull from home

...................................................... Jersey Bull Blues - Charley Patton 1934



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: February 4, 2021 02:48

-1 and -2 for track numbers, thats the most hilarious thing I have ever seen, and believe me, after 40 years of looking at jamaican pressings I have seen a lot of funny things. Wonder how they actually mastered that? And what would happen if you ripped the CD? Probably number the thing properly but might end up skipping the first two tracks.

I am tempted to buy that version just to hold that mess, but I think I will go with the more budget minded version of what looks to be the same thing.

Thats a problem with a lot of these blues releases that I've noticed, a lot of repetition of the same tracks. Not unusual since they are all the tracks an artist ever cut a lot of the time, but a lot of the time you cannot tell from the cover artwork that it is a direct reissue of something else.

I see Yazoo was licensed to Shanachie for some of these releases. Thats a label I am familiar with, lots of quality stuff of all sorts from the roots on that label. I have found their mastering on some reggae releases to be a little lacking so it will be interesting to hear how they present this raw delta blues.

jb

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 4, 2021 03:24

Told me, early last Fall, you never had no man at all
Fare thee, baby, fare thee well
Told me, early Fall, you never had no man at all
Well, you got more men than a two-ton truck can haul


Fare Thee Well Blues
Joe Callicott

one of my favorites

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 4, 2021 03:29

anyone have a idea on the best sounding leroy carr collection the one i have is
Whiskey Is My Habit, Good Women Is All I Crave: The Best Of Leroy Carr

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 04:35




... Ya gotta remember jb that some
of those artists did not record many records ....

And in some cases there may be only
one or if really lucky two-three-four actual
78's of some of those pre-war artists in existence ...


INTERESTING STORY ....
A blues collector told me once
he could tell by the pattern of the
record surface noise & crackles which
collector had loaned his 78 for use on CD/vinyl comps ....



ROCKMAN



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2021-02-04 04:45 by Rockman.

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 04:58



YA need this one tooooooooo ........


Divin' Duck Blues.....Drop Down Mama ...
The Girl I love She Got Long Curly Hair...Street Car Blues...etc


Sleepy John Estes - I Ain't Gonna Be Worried No More - Yazoo 2004



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 05:20





Loved it so much ... still have a sealed copy ....



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 05:29





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Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 4, 2021 05:30

damn rockman you win
that is incredible

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 05:42

WIN !!!!! .....

No No Professor no competition here
I can't stand winnin' ... even in a
fight ya get more love bein' the losin' dude ...

The chicks all rush forward ta pick ya up
and attend to ya bleeding cuts ... hhhAAhhEEhhh HHHaaaaa



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: February 4, 2021 08:50

So, strickly musical content speaking, how do you rate this Charley Patton & Associates - Complete Recordings versus the big box Screamin and Hollerin set? I see that is 7 vs 5 cds and one of those extras seem to be interviews which while interesting I could probably do without. How is the reproduction and mastering one vs the other? Reason I ask is there is a huge price difference between them and although the box looks tempting I might cheap out if I can.

thanks again for all the selections, I have been diligently looking them up on ebay and elsewhere as they are brought to my attention.

I read about the Masked Marvel bit in some book maybe Robt Johnson one I just finished. I find reading about while listening to the music being written about is very enlightening, really gives me insights I probably would not draw otherwise.

Like for instance how R Johnson was as much known for his percussion effects on the guitar as for the actual playing. And as you listen to his records you really do hear that plain as day. It was used to draw people around when playing out in public and to keep them entranced as he played. Genius stuff especially back then. Long as it didn't get ya lynched, always a not-distant threat especially to a womanizer and all around bad-ass like Johnson.

jb



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Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: sjn27 ()
Date: February 4, 2021 10:02

Check these gems:
Son House / Father of Folk Blues
Label: Analogue Productions AAPB 092
UPC: 753088009211
180 Gram Vinyl Record

Muddy Waters / The Complete Plantation Recordings 2LP mono
Label: Analogue Productions AAPB 121
UPC: 753088012112
200 Gram Vinyl Record

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 4, 2021 10:04



Heck man weve ran thru this before
The Yazoo's have the best sound but are not complete ....

And when's there's only like say three copies
of those 78's in the world then ya aint gonna get
much difference in each set that's released ......

Id say your not the kinda guy that needs the complete
recordings so maybe just go for a Yazoo best of .....

I grab Patton sets when I see 'em ... The Definitive
the JSP etc .... above is the Japanese Jaspac '92 release
with real Delta like cover-art but if ya read the small print
you'll see they are using Johnny Parth's Document stuff for the set .....



Stay Safe




ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Date: February 4, 2021 10:39

Leadbelly's Library of Congress-recordings (a 6 CD set) is a must, too.

Great, great stuff!


Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: jbwelda ()
Date: February 4, 2021 11:47

>And when's there's only like say three copies
>of those 78's in the world then ya aint gonna get
>much difference in each set that's released ......

Yes I realize most recordings will be coming from the same original plates, but there are always the claims of unprecedented sound restoration or newly discovered copies and all that. Often those claims are pretty specious, to my ears anyway. So my question was more like if you knew one to be superior to the other or if they were basically the same material from the same source but just with expanded liner notes and that sort of thing, especially when it comes down to more than a hundred bucks difference between them.

So you answered that question for me. The big expanded version would be nice on the shelf but essentially the more modest version is way easier on the budget while offering most of the same music from the same source.

thanks again
jb

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Kingbeebuzz ()
Date: February 4, 2021 11:49

This is one of the most informative and interesting threads in years. Thank you Rockman and ProfessorWolf.
It demonstrates the true value of IORR.....thank you BV.

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 5, 2021 02:41

hey maybe i'm wrong but wasn't blind lemon and willie mctell more popular in ther lifetimes and sold more records thus making it easer to find better sounding copies
and i'm a really big fan of henry thomas but i'm wondering i have "Texas Worried Blues (Complete Recorded Works 1927-1929)" and sounds pretty damn good but is it the best sounding version there is because mines from 1989 and wonder if there is better released since

and i'm also loving this thread and will try to keep it going as long as people are willing to tolerate me

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: February 5, 2021 03:24

Mance Lipscomb....that dude's awesome

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 5, 2021 04:16

Texas Worried Blues - Yazoo

Yep Professor that the one I have ........ vinyl & CD



ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: February 5, 2021 05:14





ROCKMAN

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: stickyfingers101 ()
Date: February 5, 2021 16:36

Dear Rockee & Prof...(and everybody else, of course)

thanks so much for all this...this is a great thread.

I know a lot of these dudes & this music, but I'm loving sampling some of the gems you've posted.

Thanks!

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: ProfessorWolf ()
Date: February 7, 2021 02:56

hey rockman this is the version of henry thomas that i have it looks different than your is it just a different cover but the same release sound wise

discogs

also where should i start with tampa red

Re: OT: Best Sounding Releases For Blues Recordings From The 20's - 30's
Posted by: Tubeman ()
Date: February 7, 2021 09:10

If you can find a copy there is a CD titled
Were Gonna Boogie Raw 60's Downtown Blues
Put out by Crawdad Records

[www.discogs.com]

I have posted the discogs link above

This is raw Delta and Chicago blues (early electric guitar versions)

It pops up from time to time and can be purchased in blues specialist record stores.

Most of the songs are 60's versions of 1930's and 1940's artists

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